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Old 03-28-2008, 02:23 PM   #21
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off topic.. Vash, do you play xbox live?
Hell yea! I pwn noobs at halo 3

On Xbox live I'm not Vash though, I'm Shloberknocker

Add me if you play halo 3, that's really all I'm good for.

Yea those are automatic OEM radiators. I went with an all aluminum race radiator so the issue would never really be in my mind. Race radiator, 1 fan, 160* thermostat, extraction hood....and I've never experienced a problem.

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Old 03-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #22
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oh, I thought you were X Va5h X hes my friend (he plays halo 3 also) but I just play halo 2. I havent played halo 3 yet (I have a 360 but I just never bought H3)
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There are few design elements that help improve a rad's cooling-
Dual Core
Dual Pass
Cross flow
Stock cars are big on running a multi pass, multi core, cross flow because they work. And that has driven the cost down.

I don't know why those with some or all of the features built for a Miata are so expensive... maybe it's because it doesn't share a core size with anything? But for comparison, I bought a dubl pass, cross flow, dual core rad for Ford stock car (smallest size) for $209 and built a hanger/bracket from square tubing for less than $10.

I think the real key on the track (as in multiple laps) is getting the heat out from under the hood. I think the underhood dynamics is fine for a normally aspirated miata, but that all changes with the turbo in there. I know of one turbo'd track Miata that came to this conclusion when face with the same situation. He cut holes in the hood and could then run full sessions w/o fear of overheating.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:34 PM   #24
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so do you think that getting a rad from a stock car would be a better solution then to buy a GS or that Springfield that I gave a link to?
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For me no- because I have no deadlines to get the car read and enjoy making stuff. Based on your first post, I think you want something that will drop in. I personally would be inclined to address both oil and coolant temps and therefore would either go for a twin cooler OR (cheaper) rad upgrade with the leftover funds going to the oil cooler. Do you know what your oil temps are when you coolant temps are high?

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Unfortunately I do not. I just need the car to be done by July. I need the following finished.. Coolant re-route, Cooling issues SOLVED, Power steering de-power, Dynoed and tuned with my new LC-1. PS, any secrets to tuning the Link? I have trouble. I need to install my larger IC and re-do my ducting to fit, I need an oil cooler to keep those temps down, I would like to fab or buy some sort of hood extraction, like your mini scoop. and I would also like to put in a new front Wizdom bumber. All this needs to be done by July 4th, Most of it just working on the car. I would also like a lightweight seat that doesnt cost a million dollars so I can buy 2, but it needs to have wings to keep you from moving.
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On the stock car Rad topic... Do you think it would be a suitable solution to have a good multi flow rad with lots of cooling capabilities take up 75% of the opening in the front and mount a good oil cooler in the remainder of the area? kind of like a twin cooler only make my own?

About the Oil temps... I check the oil after each race (synthetic) and it looks to be fine, I havent done a change since the beginning of last season and the oil still looks good.

Advise on a good oil cooler and a link would be MUCH appreciated! The link I provided in the first couple of posts, I dont know anything about it or how many row it is. Just found it in a Search.

Thanks guys!!
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I think it's the best idea.

Running a temp gauge in a turbo track still seems like an excellent idea to me.

This design works well. I'm using the smallest at the moment and it drops temps about 30f with mediocre air flow. Of course the other advantage to oil coolers is the ability to add oil capacity - which smaller does less of.

Knowing your oil temp on track will give you idea of what "kind" of oil cooling you need.
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Wow! Thank you! I'm thinking about the 36 row cooler. Do I need to reloacte the oil filter? BTW I like your thread and I'm thinking something along the line of the same type deal... Put the oil cooler next to the Rad. If its not too much to ask, where did you get your stock car rad? And what do you think of the idea of smaller rad but multi flow/multi pass?

I would love to never have to worry about temps ever again. I would love to run three drivers in 3 consecutive session 20min-30min a piece with one cool down lap in between each session and 5 minutes of downtime. Currently if the car is put in 5th and driven for about 30seconds, the car will cool right back to normal (1/3) of the temp gauge.
So I would like to eliminate all possibilities of overheating and if the oil drops 30*F, GREAT!

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I think the real key on the track (as in multiple laps) is getting the heat out from under the hood. I think the underhood dynamics is fine for a normally aspirated miata, but that all changes with the turbo in there. I know of one turbo'd track Miata that came to this conclusion when face with the same situation. He cut holes in the hood and could then run full sessions w/o fear of overheating.
What do you think of this.. Mini scoop following your thread and louvers over the turbo and symetrical on the intake side?
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M2, It has reached that time for me where I need a new Rad. My re-route didnt cut it for me. After a 20 min drive in 85* weather at 6500rpm I overheated. So time to do the oil cooler and new rad. I have one month to do it so there is plenty of time. What should I do for a rad? Hook me up!!! Godspeed has a 5week wait I saw.. still willing to pay the 600 for that rad if its going to work.
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