Recommend me a sandwich plate (off topice to gauges)
 

want to get a sandwich plate that will replace my oem oil to water cooler once i get the fm thermostat cooler.

if you don't know the fm is designed to use the stock cooler as a spacer or you have to buy a spacer from them/have one made. was going to use a sandwich plate as the spacer so i could run my oil presser and temp gauge senders off of it.

They sell a spacer? I called them prior to installing my FM oil cooler kit and they just suggested I bypass the water lines at the stock cooler.

I've already got my OP sensor in the block, and OT in the pan, so I just need a blank spacer.

C

Yeah, when you buy the 1.6 model of their thermostat plate, you get an aluminum spacer that is dimensionally identical to the 1.8 oil-water exchanger. (They also send a 1.8-length threaded tube.)

So just ask 'em for that spacer.

Or, you could always leave the stock cooler in place. If you DD this car, it's nice to have it there as a preheater.

In my battle to bring the coolant temps down, I'd prefer to remove the heat load from the cooling system.

C

Wow. I was really about to come in here and recommend anything with salami or roast beef.

On the actual topic, sorry, I'm a clueless noob.

John and I told you what to do yesterday. Just keep the stock cooler and you will continue to win at life, just don't hook it up.

you where to busy playing forza 3 and petting you cat. i need somewhere to hook up my temp and op. instead of the space you got from fm or the oem cooler i was going to use the sandwich plate that wags has on his car but they are no no longer on egay when he looked last night. so i have to find one.

Put the sensor probe in the pan or get a #10 union with a port in it. Their out there, and I think LRE in Irving has them.

You may also be about to double stack plates on top of the stock cooler.

Do it right.

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C

ya how am i going to drill my pan with it in the car...

is there a hole already in the block right there?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_A9eq2D6-7Wg/S7...0/IMG_6095.JPG

No? I think it's accessible with the engine in the car. Too dark and wet outside to check right now.

Yep. that's where the stock OP sender was.

C

It's easy, drill into the passenger side of the pan. The oil pan holds the real temp reading .

just leave the stock out and ignore the dash gauge?

metal in oil? or just drain it and it's only a few flake so who care?

Yes, and let the oil drain out the hole. There is a screen on the pump neck and a filter to keep metal out. Be a man. Buy omori gauges too...or buy my orange greddy oil temp gauge so I can replace it with an omori.

Even better!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_A9eq2D6-7Wg/S7...0/IMG_0040.jpg

C

The deja vu in this thread is strong.

https://www.miataturbo.net/general-miata-chat-9/recomend-1-3-4-water-temp-gague-47783/

C

fuck that, i got 4 gauges for $40 each with 10% off for buying more then 3

http://prosportgauges.com/images/pro...%20800x533.jpg

how did you do this?

if you have pics of them installed can you send them to me or somthing? or is there a thread that has gone into detail about it?

Dude, post #16.

You could just cut it, no spacer needed.

not doing the dash install, sooner or later my dash gauges will turn into just a big tack and digital speedo

does the ecu care about the stock presser probe or is there a low press buzzer?

No and no.

Easy enough to install, though. The ACVW offroad crowd are fond of installing a very loud horn on the generator light, as that also indicates that you've thrown the fan belt.

From where? The Prosport site?

the http://prosportgauges.com/ has them but i found this site that has the 10% off, covers shipping and from there location to me shipping was also lower http://www.machv.com/prgacopa.html

I would not buy those shitbox prosport gauges. VDO are inexpensive and quality, without crazy lighting crap that you may not be able to read in direct sunlight.

Every prosport gauge I ever bought failed on me.
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I'm using this one
http://prosportgauges.com/oil-filter-adaptor-plate.aspx

seams a little over price to me so i was looking for a lower cost one.


for the price of 1 omori i got 4 gauges that will work for the time being. i've found post with mixed reviews searching google.

baller status: denied

o nose, my life is over, i will not go masturbate to twilight and kill my self

Call me if you change your mind.

Mocal built in t-stat sandwich plate.

I just got a mocal sandwitch plate and I have to say that it is made much nicer than other plates I have used on other cars. The oring sealed fittings make it a much better option than the tapered thread NPT fittings used on most other plates.

Don't worry about the factory oil cooler adding heat from the coolant to the oil. To transfer heat you need a temp difference. As long as the oil is the same temp or hotter than the coolant you will not be taking any heat from the coolant. Most of the time when driving hard your oil temps will be above the coolant temps so you will always be transfering heat to the coolant. The only reason I would not use the coolant cooler is if your coolant system is marginal and removing the heat load could help coolant issues. If that is the case you are better off improving the coolant first.

It's the other way around for me. I don't want heat from the oil going into the cooling system.

C

+1

A lot of folks that I know have had failures w/ them.

I spent the extra money (instead of replacing the gauges at least once) and got 2 Defi gauges.

at lest i didn't buy glow shift gauges

and

I had 5 prosport gauges and 3 of then went bad. Switched to PLX. Profit.

Damn right. I had pro sport oil pressure, boost and egt on my MR2 and the senders wouldn't last for shit. I went through 3 egt probes, 2 oil pressure senders and 2 boost pressure senders. I'd never use them again, ever.

The lighting on the gauge was shitty at best, I could barely see the gauges during the day, and they were too bright at night.
It was almost impossible to read them when I was on the track.

I've got a prosport oil temp gauge new in box that I'd never put on any of my cars. If any Dallas guys want it just take it.

fine, i'll cancel my order tomorrow.

the vdo site i can't navigate because it's set up shitty and defi are over priced. need boost, water temp, oil temp, and oil press. some one help me out with out being a dick. o wait this is mt.net :giggle:

You'll like the VDO's, they're reasonably priced, don't look silly, and blend well with your stock gauges.

This is a post I made on another forum back in 2006, but much of it applies to the Miata.

http://www.sr20forum.com/technical-i...up-gauges.html

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Here's some pics of my gauge install on the turbo NX.

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The mounting plate comes from www.42draftdesigns.com.
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The great thing about this panel is it's designed with a recess for the VDO Vision gauges, so the bezel sits flush with the face of the panel. Very factory! :)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_A9eq2D6-7Wg/Sd.../mk4tgp_02.jpg

It's made to snap in to a DIN slot, so you'll need to fabricate some simple brackets to mount it into a B chassis car.
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The radio was easier to move than I thought it would be. I just had to cut up the stock mounting brackets and grind them down here and there.

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The real bitch was getting the boost gauge installed. I'm tring to keep the car as low profile as possible (stock wheels, side mount intercooler, tinted windows), so I didn't want to have the gauge on the a-pillar, steering wheel, etc, so I sunk it into the stock temperature gauge spot in the cluster.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_A9eq2D6-7Wg/R9...o/s800/aap.jpg

At first it looked simple, but I wound up having to cut some of the circuit board traces, one of the 8 pin plugs, and I lost one of the light bulbs for the tach. Eventually I worked it all out, and althoug it ain't pretty behind the scenes, I'm happy with the results.

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You're going to need some kind of adapter to install the oil pressure sender. On my turbo car, I connected it to a T fitting on the oil feed to the turbocharger. On the VE, I used a Nissport adapter.
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Water temp sender goes in the coolant neck on the passenger side of the engine. Nice and simple, no need for any adapter. :)
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Oil temp sender goes on the back side of the oil pan. Epoxy or weld a piece of bar stock to the inside of the pan to give the sender enough threads to grab.
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More pictures here
http://picasaweb.google.com/cscarpul...000TurboGauges

Here's the part numbers.

I bought the gauges and adapters from www.egauges.com, they have excellent prices and usually have everything in stock. There are 2 oil pressure senders listed here. Both are 80psi, but *360-009 has a built in 7psi low pressure warning connection, which you can wire to either your stock oil pressure warning light, or to an external one.

The gauge panel and boost gauge tubing kit came from www.42draftdesigns.com
I bought the boost tubing kit there because it has a push-lock fitting for the gauge, and comes with a t-fitting with a built in restrictor.

they are not that good looking and i doubt they blind with my stock gauges

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unless they come in bad ass blue lit

Grr, I tend to think NA when it comes to Miatas.

C

If you cut the threaded post then the fitting on the plate won't clear the waffling on the block.

this

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_A9eq2D6-7Wg/Sd.../mk4tgp_02.jpg

plus

http://www.egauges.com/images/autome...e_d/3207_d.jpg

= wining combo

part number R7769 http://www.egauges.com/vdo_acce.asp?...e_E/C&Manf=All