Ok, there is more room beside the tranny hump than I thought. I have both installed on my driver side my, and basically I swing the bucket out of the way when I run the harness. Looks like there is plenty of room with these to do the same. Does the belt sit in the right spot, or a tad high?

it feels like it is in the same place as it was witht he other seats... maybe a little higher but nothing noticeable

Since were talking about seats here. What makes bride seats so good? They sure do cost enough:eek:

2 pages and not 1 mention about FIA certification....... Therese seats arent gonna be so cool when they kill you

some of us do not fear death, there is alot about the FIA cert on the first page.

Can you show me the FIA certification on the OEM seat?

It's almost like you didn't read the f'n thread?! :twofinger

So, any new opinions of these seats after using them for a while. I really am considering replacing my torn stockers at that price. A local guy just put a set of the Buzz seats in his '93 that I need to sit in and try out. I like the look of the Rush better, but he said they rubbed in his car so he got the Buzz instead. How do your Rush seats fit? Any rubbing?

they rub on the latches for the hard top, kind of annoying, but nothing too bad, they dont make as much noise as the OEMs either, sooner or later I am going to be bolting them to the floor, I dont like being able to hit my head on the hardtop

(turns out they are higher than I thought)

higher than stock? or are you a tall MFer?

they are about 1/4" higher than the stock seats I thought they were lower at first ( I think I had my hopes up)
I am 5' 10" (about average I guess)

I've only test fitted mine as I still need to make the proper brackets and get the right hardware, and the outer wing did look like it would rub a little, but you can angle the seat a little to avoid that from my test fitting at least. I also "bent" the outer wing in a little to help out there.

As for lowering, I think you have to bolt these directly to the floor to gain any headroom over the stock w/radical foam mod. I currently still have my stock seats and can get my helmet just under the rollbar with the back and bottom foam mostly removed. In the test fitting, the helmet clearance was just ever so lower with the seat resting on the floor. I figure that brackets will add maybe 1/4"-1/2"

As for safety, for most novice HPDE and all autocross, I think that these seats (as well as Sparco Sprints, Momo Starts, and Corbeau Clubmans that are all tubular frame seats) with proper race harnesses are safer and will keep you in your seat much better than the stock stuff. Certainly, if you started to get into the advanced groups pushing the limits more or considered going for a wheel to wheel racing license then better safety gear is in order. But for most of us (especially the novices who have to buy another setup for an instructor as well), we are not at a level where we need or are willing to spend close to $1000 per seat/harness (multiplied by two for the instructor side) for gear we will probably never use.

brgracer,

What rollbar do you have in the car? And fit issues with it and the seats?

I have a kirk racing rollbar in my car that is very similar to the Hard Dog HCDD. No fitment issues in the test fit, but I guess any seat could have issues if you wanted to lean your seat back a lot. FWIW, I'm 5'10" for reference.

are you going to mount them to the floor?

Yes. I am the only driver so to me helmet clearance is more important than front/back adjustability.