I can’t add any scientific info but I have the same mid pipe. I have ran it with a big magniflow muffler and presently with a dump at the end. The drone/resonance with the hardtop on in terrible both setups. My car is a dedicated csp car. I think there is a reason they call the mid pipe a race pipe. Keep it above 4K and no problems. |
115dB SPL is about the loudness of a rock concert. Maximum recommended exposure without hearing protection is 30 seconds. I’m not questioning that your car sounds like shit, I just don’t think it’s 115dB in the cabin. Methinks your Iphone measuring tool is shite. FWIW, I ran a stock header through a cat and into an RS3 exhaust, and even that was too loud for my delicate flower ears. It’s super obnoxious after a while. |
Car sounds great. Like really great.
I measured using my android device and two new apps. Got different numbers. It's still super uncomfortable in cabin. Outside at idle, <10' away: 58-62db Inside at idle: ~65db Inside at 3500rpm free-revving: 75-78db |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1489688)
Would you mind downloading some sort of app and measuring interior cruise db for me at some point? I would greatly appreciate it. :)
"Stock car quiet" is pretty much what i was expecting with this setup. |
I used both "Sound Analyzer App" and "Sound Meter" this last go around. Both spit out identical numbers.
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kk i was using Decibel X. I just downloaded soundmeter. I'll post my results once i get home
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1489698)
want me to bust out technology and post datalogs with sharpies and masking tape?
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1489699)
Mmmmmmm the logging kit!
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Are all the exhaust gaskets good? U personally checked they are not leaking air?
I had rb header, stock midpipe, rb dual tip exhaust and it was almost stock quiet. Just a tad more aggressive sounding. on my current car while while waiting for EFR turbo I put on stock nb2 header, into 3" catless exhaust with a big magnaflow muffler, it was louder, but still perfectly ok on the hwy. now I drove my new EFR turbo setup to a shop with Just an open downpipe to the muffler shop to get it welded to my exhaust, and I seriously almost went deaf. Even with full ear, ear muffs it was rediculously loud. |
Originally Posted by borka
(Post 1489747)
Are all the exhaust gaskets good? U personally checked they are not leaking air?
I had rb header, stock midpipe, rb dual tip exhaust and it was almost stock quiet. Just a tad more aggressive sounding. on my current car while while waiting for EFR turbo I put on stock nb2 header, into 3" catless exhaust with a big magnaflow muffler, it was louder, but still perfectly ok on the hwy. now I drove my new EFR turbo setup to a shop with Just an open downpipe to the muffler shop to get it welded to my exhaust, and I seriously almost went deaf. Even with full ear, ear muffs it was rediculously loud. |
Ok. Idling I’m at 82db. Cruising on the street I’m at 92db. Freeway cruising I’m at 95db. |
Originally Posted by concealer404
(Post 1489740)
I used both "Sound Analyzer App" and "Sound Meter" this last go around. Both spit out identical numbers.
Sound meters on phones are toys. Proper sound meters not only need to be calibrated, they also need to be frequency weighted because the same sound pressure is perceived as different volume at different frequencies. The phone sound meter apps I've seen are all flat. --Ian |
You already know the frequency of droning, as you know the RPM. Is there space beneath the car to add a tuned Helmholz resonator suppressing these frequencies?
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Also, have you done the bare minimum interior soundproofing, like stuffing foam or other similar shit in the body tunnels and whatnot? Get a couple sleeping bags and unroll them and stuff them in the trunk so they fill the space; see if that changes the sound at all.
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Originally Posted by codrus
(Post 1489756)
On the same phone? If so, then that's because they're both using the same uncalibrated microphone hardware.
Sound meters on phones are toys. Proper sound meters not only need to be calibrated, they also need to be frequency weighted because the same sound pressure is perceived as different volume at different frequencies. The phone sound meter apps I've seen are all flat. --Ian
Originally Posted by HarryB
(Post 1489769)
You already know the frequency of droning, as you know the RPM. Is there space beneath the car to add a tuned Helmholz resonator suppressing these frequencies?
Originally Posted by huesmann
(Post 1489781)
Also, have you done the bare minimum interior soundproofing, like stuffing foam or other similar shit in the body tunnels and whatnot? Get a couple sleeping bags and unroll them and stuff them in the trunk so they fill the space; see if that changes the sound at all.
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My father(in his 60s) has a VVT swapped NA6. Full poly suspension/diff bushings with mazdacomp engine mounts, RB header and unresonated power pulse muffler w/poly hangers. Magnaflow hi-flow cat.
I find it slightly quiet unless youre flooring it. My father doesnt mind it and the wind noise bothers her more than the exhaust(top down for that). Ill try to get some DB readings. (also last year I can the same set up on my car but MSM swap(w/o turbo) and AWR engine mounts + FM 2.5" turbo exhaust. That was louder but not really drone-y or unbearable) |
My car is like concealer's. NA6 with VVT and 6758. Full 3" exhaust with resonator, cat and end can. The drone is driving me nuts. I have pool noodles underneath the parcel shelf and around the fuel pump/tank cover void. Full carpet. Even with the opt full of luggage it will drone like hell. From the outside my exhaust sounds sporty but not overly obtrusive. The intake noise and spool is certainly louder.
I'll try the big ass MT Magnaflow muffler next. |
Originally Posted by Eunos91
(Post 1489828)
My car is like concealer's. NA6 with VVT and 6758. Full 3" exhaust with resonator, cat and end can. The drone is driving me nuts. I have pool noodles underneath the parcel shelf and around the fuel pump/tank cover void. Full carpet. Even with the opt full of luggage it will drone like hell. From the outside my exhaust sounds sporty but not overly obtrusive. The intake noise and spool is certainly louder.
I'll try the big ass MT Magnaflow muffler next. I have full 3" catless, no resonator, only the muffler and its VERY quiet. Almost stock quiet. Just deeper sounding |
Helmholz. He's your huckleberry.
I believe you can tee off the existing exhaust system and solve this problem. Takes some reading to nail down, I imagine. |
big magnaflow (MT flavor) for eunos
helmLOLZ for revealer |
lose the 1hp and toss a cat back on it. problem solved.
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