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Old 10-17-2007, 04:15 AM   #21
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215/45/15 T1R - special size and has reinforced side walls very responsive - I ran T1s then T1r now on my first set of azenis.. The T1rs are great tires I've just been wanting to try out the azenis. I've ran ~4 sets of T1S now and loved them, T1R is basically the same tire but better in wet.
So the 215/45/15 size is a better than the 205/50/15? Does it cure this alleged soft sidewall stuff? I like the idea of this in the 215/45/15, or the g-force sport in 205/50/15. I am kind of leaning towards the T1-R now if this particular size will be nice and responsive/grippy.

Can anyone compare these two(T1-R in 215, G-force sport in 205)? Or anyone else used the T1-R in 215/45/15? I rarely hear of people running these.
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You have a 7 inch rim why are you totally disregarding the 225 for 10 psi and below it is the perfect width. Past that more tire is needed.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:44 AM   #23
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Are you wearing these tires out evenly? or wearing out the edges?

Maybe some more camber?
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:51 AM   #24
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You have a 7 inch rim why are you totally disregarding the 225 for 10 psi and below it is the perfect width. Past that more tire is needed.
I'm not boosted, and won't be in the immediate future (returned turbo for new car) plus 225 are expensive.

And I am getting relatively even wear, with just a bit more on the inside, which I think may be the toe. I'm running icehawk's specs, so not all that aggressive.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:13 AM   #25
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Odd just looked at the T1R secs and aparently they don' have reinforced sidewalls in 215/45/5 (which they did for a looong) time. Now to get that you'd want: 205/50R15 89V RD (RD=reinforced sidewalls) if you're going this route. BTW what 225's fit on 15's?

http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/18966.pdf
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:17 AM   #26
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I dunno my bfg's where 75$ apeice from summit. i ran them NA for a good bit and loved them then aswell.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:36 PM   #27
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shiiiet speedF50.. you live in Malibu? of course you're gonna blow through tires. cuz if i lived ANYWHERE on the west side, i'd be up n down the canyons everyday.

the closest thing i gots is ACH.

that said, i'm completely useless on the tires rec cuz i'm running around on bricks right now. :gay:
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:34 PM   #28
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Haha ya, you understand where my tires are going. It's amazing living out here, but damn does it use up gas/tires/every part of the car, especially when me and my friends all live in the canyons, not just by them.

And I was thinking, the BFG g-force sound very good, but I wonder how the t/a KDW's are? From what I can tell they have more grip than the g-force and won't wear that quickly (compared to azenis).

The T1R is also still a good looking option, but I'm a bit worried about the feel of them, but with the re-enforced sidewall, they may be just right. But I was looking forward to a 215/45/15 on these mountain roads for grip on bad surfaces.

So basically I've gotten nowhere. Can anyone compare and contrast these tires from experience? I really appreciate all of the opinions on these, but some experience with the said tires and their pros and cons would also be very much appreciated.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:55 PM   #29
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hmmmmm try and find some 225/50/15 Hankook RS2's....thats what ima run next....cant be that much more then other sets...
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Old 10-18-2007, 12:14 AM   #30
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The whole reason I am asking about other tires is that I can't get RS2 and Azeni type tires as I am wearing them out faster than I change oil. So I need to find a longer lasting tire, that is still fun (T1-R, BFG g force or t/a KDW).
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Old 10-18-2007, 04:51 AM   #31
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ahhh I hear ya....g-force sports are not too bad....but driving hard on any tire will kill it fast.Ive gone through harder compound tires almost as fast as softs....they might last a lil longer i guess. but 400 treadwears die quick for me too :(......
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:31 AM   #32
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SPTs are not that bad of a tire actually. they are a great daily driver tire, and the perfect drift tire as they last long enough and they grip a good amount.

they arent the best for grip though, thats for sure.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:45 AM   #33
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try toyo proxy4 not as expensive as the T1-r and proforms good to me..
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:17 AM   #34
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had a set of proxy 4's.....good for sliding. lots of sidewall flex.......loud. but will get the job done I guess..
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:25 AM   #35
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Well I'm still stuck between the BFG and Toyo. Between the g-force sport and t/a kdw I think I would opt for the kdw as from talking to a rep at tire rack they sound like they are a bit noisier but have more overall grip. But the difference between those two seems to be minimal.

The Toyo T1-R on the other hand I am still unsure about. I can't figure out if they are a good responsive performance tire, or a squishy sidewall'd mess. I have seen just so many mixed reviews for these that I am a bit lost. Plus I don't know how much the reinforced sidewall model will differ from standard.

And on the proxy 4's and ASX, I think those are a bit too far away from a performance tire for me, as I am looking for better treadwear, but not something quite that mundane.
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:18 PM   #36
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try the KDW's....had a set on the miata like...3 or 4 sets ago. Not a bad tire overall. and the wet grip is amazing(who cares I know). medium loudness decent grip, moderate sidewll flex(lasted a bit longer then the azenies)...personally I'd never buy them again. but then again I got a good dealer for tires now....forr the sake of curiosity wat kinda alignmint you running
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:42 AM   #37
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T1R with reinforced is not squishy at all :-) (but again aparently this is only in 205/50/15 per prev post) But there are lots of good choices in the same price range. I'm loving the azenis - finally got on them hard and was pleasantly surprised at the grip and when they give (very predictable). If you've never run t1r's they're worth a shot - FYI: I only buy them when toyo has their bianual sale (buy 3 get one free). I'm also hearing good things about those hankock (sp?) tires that have almost an exact copy of the T1r tread pattern. You guys got me curios about the BFG's but these are more $ right ? FYI: On proxies both my friend and I ran 32/30psi Front and Rear respectively.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:51 PM   #38
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the thing is he is looking for a tire that will "last" longer then say.. Azenies or RS2's. KDW's are more expensive then Azenies so they are porbablly outta the question. G-force sports are a bit too much for the quality to be honest...I have been in this exact predicament before in the past so I know what Speed is going through...my only advice is dont go cheap cause you will kick yourself through the enitre set for how sucky grip they have.....thats the lesson I learned.
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75 bucks a tire when i bought mine. they are 99 now though http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku 93 bucks from tire rack. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=0
Oh well i think i might rock some DR's next anyway.
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:37 PM   #40
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ouch 93 a piece..... that should equak out to lik 460 or so mounted....thats a bit. I get Azenies for 300 and I get them mounted at some lil shop for like 20-30 bucks..........when ya kill tires fast you tend to find the best deal possible.
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