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levnubhin 05-09-2009 12:46 AM

Throttle body FAIL!
 
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How does this shit happen? I was just driving and it broke.

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IcantDo55 05-09-2009 12:50 AM

Do you still have the support bracket on your intake? The one in the way of the oil filter? I remember reading on here that could be a cause of it. Got me.

I once turned a throttle blade into something that resembled a taco with a N2o backfire.

levnubhin 05-09-2009 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by IcantDo55 (Post 406482)
Do you still have the support bracket on your intake? The one in the way of the oil filter? I remember reading on here that could be a cause of it. Got me.

I once turned a throttle blade into something that resembled a taco with a N2o backfire.



No I dont and I remember that thread. I still don't see how that could possibly cause that.
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TonyV 05-09-2009 12:58 AM

I don't see how it could either, but also remember that thread... "things that make u go hmmm"

p51hellfire 05-09-2009 12:59 AM

wtf another day another problem...That sucks phil, You have a replacement?

levnubhin 05-09-2009 01:01 AM

Yeah I do. Pretty sure I have at least two somewhere.
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p51hellfire 05-09-2009 01:04 AM

Good to here lol get her back on the streets!!!

magnamx-5 05-09-2009 01:07 AM

did you mill that down any before? Seems to me its must have been weakened before it broke unless you are running 50-60 psi onto a closed throttle body :P

levnubhin 05-09-2009 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 406493)
did you mill that down any before? Seems to me its must have been weakened before it broke unless you are running 50-60 psi onto a closed throttle body :P



Nope, never touched the butterfly.
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Splitime 05-09-2009 01:24 AM

It was the corvette chevrons. I've seen them cause failures like this before. They rebel against being put on a non-corvette.

crashnscar 05-09-2009 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Phillatio (Post 406484)
No I dont and I remember that thread. I still don't see how that could possibly cause that.

So are you still going to run without it? :jerkit:

levnubhin 05-09-2009 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 406500)
So are you still going to run without it? :jerkit:



Yes, if that were the cause there would be ALOT more broken throttle bodies out there. :jerkit:
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Lime 05-09-2009 01:41 AM

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A good friend of mine has had the same problem with TB's breaking on him a few times and I always end up replacing then. Well last weekend I was doing some routine maintenance and dressing up his engine bay i'll post a few pictures. When it finally happen to me LOL no issue I had a few BP TB spares for his turbo 1.6 setup and was back on the road in no time. All in all that problem has happen 3-4 times already. So you are not the only one who has had that weird problem happen too.

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crashnscar 05-09-2009 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by Phillatio (Post 406484)
No I dont and I remember that thread. I still don't see how that could possibly cause that.


Originally Posted by Phillatio (Post 406501)
Yes, if that were the cause there would be ALOT more broken throttle bodies out there. :jerkit:

Wrong. But have fun with your throttle body. :loser:

levnubhin 05-09-2009 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 406503)
Wrong. But have fun with your throttle body. :loser:

Can you proove otherwise? How many people have removed that brace? How many people have had broken throttle bodies?
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TonyV 05-09-2009 01:57 AM

4 vs 4,000,000,000,000,000

maybe its this huge conspiracy and no one is admitting

levnubhin 05-09-2009 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by TonyV (Post 406505)
4 vs 4,000,000,000,000,000

maybe its this huge conspiracy and no one is admitting

lol, that must be it.
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rbluemx6 05-09-2009 02:35 AM

Must be a b-series thing. I've broken a mustang TB on my brother's BP setup. But I have never broken a stock TB on my mx6, even after pushing a good amount of boost on it. And I do not have an intake manifold brace on my mx6 either.

Laur3ns 05-09-2009 07:31 AM

I think Emilio or Sav has had this happened and JB Welded his next...
so do you still have the support brace?

Oh and where is the missing piece? Not in your turbo I hope?

levnubhin 05-09-2009 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 406537)
I think Emilio or Sav has had this happened and JB Welded his next...
so do you still have the support brace?

Oh and where is the missing piece? Not in your turbo I hope?

Nothing went into the motor.
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leatherface24 05-09-2009 12:16 PM

That's. Huge WTF right there. I've never seen that happen before

Vashthestampede 05-09-2009 12:31 PM

That sucks man, WTF right? Well I also remember that thread and might have to do some quick searching on the subject. IF I still even have that brace laying around somewhere......it might be going back in. The brace never bothered me much, just seemed pointless. Maybe its not......:rly:

mrtonyg 05-09-2009 12:44 PM

Never see the shaft shear like that...consider yourself lucky that the screws/rivets didn't fail and made their way in the engine!

naarleven 05-09-2009 01:51 PM

From Emilio's blog

Behind the wheel: broken throttle shaft

emilio700 05-09-2009 02:03 PM

Broken throttle shafts are quite common. Stock or modified engine, brace or no brace, N/A or F/I.. no discrimination. The only common denominator is frequent use at 7000rpm.

MX-5 Miata Forum - Throttle shaft breakage

Braineack 05-09-2009 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by mrtonyg (Post 406606)
Never see the shaft shear like that...consider yourself lucky that the screws/rivets didn't fail and made their way in the engine!


then he could be cool like me:

http://www.boostedmiata.com/new_miat...body_screw.jpg


http://www.boostedmiata.com/headwork...ute%20ZOMG.jpg

Braineack 05-09-2009 02:38 PM

to me, it looks like a flaw, the way it snapped.

emilio700 05-09-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 406636)
to me, it looks like a flaw, the way it snapped.

Ya think?

hustler 05-10-2009 12:43 AM

edit: I should read the thread next time.

So, what's the fix? I'm down for the preventative mod.

magnamx-5 05-10-2009 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 406763)
edit: I should read the thread next time.

So, what's the fix? I'm down for the preventative mod.

Sell me your car for a dollar man thats the fix.

Savington 05-10-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 406763)
edit: I should read the thread next time.

So, what's the fix? I'm down for the preventative mod.

There's a shop in Arizona that will put a billet 12mm shaft in a stock throttle body. They want $300+ for it, but that's cheaper than rebuilding a $3000 built longblock because you sucked a piece of crap through it.

edit: Just found his email. $350-400 for a one-off, plus $75 core charge. 3-day turnaround. The shop is British Car Service in Tuscon, AZ, and the guy's name is Ryal Greenwood.

y8s 05-11-2009 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 406763)
edit: I should read the thread next time.

So, what's the fix? I'm down for the preventative mod.

micropolish the hole and threads on the shaft to stress relieve them. if it's a recurrent 7k rpm abuse that causes the failure, it's vibration-induced fatigue probably from a manufacturing defect, not a material defect. just remove the stress risers and it'll be much better.

paul 05-11-2009 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 406503)
Wrong. But have fun with your throttle body. :loser:


That brace doesn't do shit. I put 200,000 miles on my miata without it, never a problem, and I had also milled down that rod through the butterfly. I've put another 200,000 combined on 3 other Miatas I've owned with that brace removed and never any problem.

Der_Idiot 05-12-2009 04:08 PM

You know, emilio has broken like four of those. It's all over in the power mods section on mnet..


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