Timing belt job on a VVT car, now rattle on start up
#22
I have been doing some searching, but my skills in this area must be lacking, I can't find anything. Can someone point me to a thread with pictures of the VVT actuator taken apart?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
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I have been doing some searching, but my skills in this area must be lacking, I can't find anything. Can someone point me to a thread with pictures of the VVT actuator taken apart?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
At the front of the actuator there are 3 star shaped screws. You unscrew those and it allows you to remove the big bolt that holds the VVT actuator to the cam. There are 4 10mm bolts on the VVT actuator and those are the bolts you do not want to remove. I would also recommend ordering new screws from Mazda for the front plate, as the screws metal is sort of weak and they can strip easily.
#24
^That.
Just remove the three T25 torx screws holding the zinc plated plate. Remove plate, enjoy access to cam bolt.
The other option is: If RSpeed sends you the wrong cam seals like they did on this car, just don't remove the ******* VVT actuator, because you don't need to unless you're doing cam seals.
Just remove the three T25 torx screws holding the zinc plated plate. Remove plate, enjoy access to cam bolt.
The other option is: If RSpeed sends you the wrong cam seals like they did on this car, just don't remove the ******* VVT actuator, because you don't need to unless you're doing cam seals.
#26
I have been doing some searching, but my skills in this area must be lacking, I can't find anything. Can someone point me to a thread with pictures of the VVT actuator taken apart?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
Also, I am going to do a timing belt soon, so how do I avoid making this mistake? I definately don't want to deal with this. Just make sure I take off the cover, and not the whole actuator?
#28
^That.
Just remove the three T25 torx screws holding the zinc plated plate. Remove plate, enjoy access to cam bolt.
The other option is: If RSpeed sends you the wrong cam seals like they did on this car, just don't remove the ******* VVT actuator, because you don't need to unless you're doing cam seals.
Just remove the three T25 torx screws holding the zinc plated plate. Remove plate, enjoy access to cam bolt.
The other option is: If RSpeed sends you the wrong cam seals like they did on this car, just don't remove the ******* VVT actuator, because you don't need to unless you're doing cam seals.
I have a good set of Torx bits that hasn't ever stripped anything yet (I like Torx much more than allen), but I already had the part numbers for those 3 cover bolts as well as the gasket, I don't like to take chances.
Since there are no good pictures, maybe someone should post some? It would be helpful when trying to figure out this actuator that has some people believing in Mazda's witchcraft assembly of this thing. I would like to know how the actuator works, without taking the bastard apart, apparently it's just a coin toss as to whether it will work properly after reassembly
#31
Conversely, I dont want to touch cam and crank seals unless they're leaking. They're way more likely to make it to 250k miles without being touched than the ones you install. It would be kind of shitty to have to have to redo the timing job 40k miles from now if one starts leaking randomly, it would be mega ultra shitty to have to re-do the timing job 3 times in the span of a week because you prayed to the wrong mayan god and you cant get new crank seals in properly.
#33
Conversely, I dont want to touch cam and crank seals unless they're leaking. They're way more likely to make it to 250k miles without being touched than the ones you install. It would be kind of shitty to have to have to redo the timing job 40k miles from now if one starts leaking randomly, it would be mega ultra shitty to have to re-do the timing job 3 times in the span of a week because you prayed to the wrong mayan god and you cant get new crank seals in properly.
If its to provide some sealing, maybe a softer metal, in all seriousness...
#34
True, but I don't think I'll have trouble getting the seals in properly, I have the FM intake and exhaust cam seal tools, as well as the front crank seal installer. Also, I'm using Mazda seals, not some ebay junk. I don't want to thread jack, but can someone confirm these work well?
Basically, unless you know the seals are very old or they're already leaking, it's not a crazy idea to leave it until next time. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Originally Posted by EO2K
In for aluminum/brass/bronze/stainless/titanium actuator cup thingy.
If its to provide some sealing, maybe a softer metal, in all seriousness...
If its to provide some sealing, maybe a softer metal, in all seriousness...
If concealer sends me the VVT actuator, I'll take it apart and see what I find. I'm pretty sure I remember how it looked when I took that one apart. If anyone has a spare little plastic puck, I'll see about trying to make replacement pucks.