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Old 05-10-2010, 11:45 AM   #1
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Default Tires - RS3's vs R1R's

For those who haven't seen my build thread, I sold my stock 99 and bronze 6UL's. I just bought another six 6UL's in nickel on the prebuy for May. Two are getting Mickey Thompson drag radials. For the DD/track day set I'm torn. I really liked the RS3's but am considering the TOYO R1R's. Thoughts?

Cost difference for 22/45/15's are negligible. RS3's are $115 each and R1R's are $125 each. Both are around $50 to ship the set. Both are 140 treadwear so I anticipate either will be a 10K mile tire.

RS3's are supposed to be in the country again by the end of May, but that's OK as the new shipment of 6UL's is slated for the last week of May anyway. Car should be going to paint around then so everything is coming together at the same time.

So, I have some experience with the RS3's - at least for 3K miles on the turbo car. Anyone have the R1R's?
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I've got the R1Rs and love them. I've driven cars w/ RE01Rs, RT615s/215s, RA1s, R888s, RE11s, Neovas, Direzzas, etc. They definitely are a nice tire. I don't know how they'd hold up on the track. I've heard that some tires like Kumho XS love the heat (dunno about 20 mins worth), and I've only subjected the R1Rs to autox.

I ran them this weekend on a really tight, technical course. Most of my times were in the 35.9x-38 second range. On less-tight courses, they are great. I had problems keeping the backend planted (however, I really should've been driving on V710s or A6 in a 255 or 275 size).

They seem pretty soft, similar to an RA1 in compound, but with a standard summer tire tread pattern.
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I don't autocross or go to the track, but I must say I love the R1R's. They hook up really well, seem very predictable and have LOADS of grip. I'd buy them again in a heart beat.
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I'm on R1R's right now. I had no choice as the RS3's are still unavailable. Since putting them on I have no problem putting down 296 wtq with no wheel spin and not once have I been able to get them to make any noise on a turn. Love them!
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not once have I been able to get them to make any noise on a turn.
If that's the case, you aren't driving fast enough.

I love my RS3's. VERY grippy street tires.
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If that's the case, you aren't driving fast enough.

I love my RS3's. VERY grippy street tires.


Public roads are not race tracks.
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Public roads are not race tracks.
Why are you running R1R's on the street then?
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I'm on R1R's right now. I had no choice as the RS3's are still unavailable. Since putting them on I have no problem putting down 296 wtq with no wheel spin and not once have I been able to get them to make any noise on a turn. Love them!
Don't lie....I've been able to make the tires bark a little takin a turn. If I can, you CERTAINLY can! But in all honesty, it'd definitly take some juice to light these tires up
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I have them and have done one track day so far, they were mounted on 7" wheels though. they only had about 25 miles on them before my first day, but seemed to hook up well even with the low miles. never lost grip on the front and the rear broke way very even and predictable. they are a good tire IMO, we'll see how they wear in the long term.
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Why are you running R1R's on the street then?

Why do I need 300 whp?
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Don't lie....I've been able to make the tires bark a little takin a turn. If I can, you CERTAINLY can! But in all honesty, it'd definitly take some juice to light these tires up


Don't forget, I'm in Florida. Turns = freeway on/off ramps.
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Why do I need 300 whp?
Compensation?
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Compensation?
How did you know?
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you have a red miata? Kind of a give away though..
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