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ruger988 02-14-2007 07:36 PM

too cheap?
 
i was under the impression all LSD's were in the 4 - 500 range?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-91...spagenameZWDVW

miatamania 02-14-2007 07:41 PM

thats a VSLD, a weaker 6" that were in the 1.6 cars..all of the 1.8 LSDs are going for much more than that.

ruger988 02-14-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 82920)
thats a VSLD, a weaker 6" that were in the 1.6 cars..all of the 1.8 LSDs are going for much more than that.

too weak for someone who wants to get to and stay right at 200-225WHP?

kotomile 02-14-2007 07:59 PM

1.6 rears have been known to blow stock... so 200+ whp is really pushing it.

Tabs just blew his, 10psi on a Greddy.

ruger988 02-14-2007 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 82927)
1.6 rears have been known to blow stock... so 200+ whp is really pushing it.

Tabs just blew his, 10psi on a Greddy.

so the VLSD is just as weak as the OPEN diff?

kotomile 02-14-2007 08:05 PM

all 1.6 (6") diffs are the same strength.

VRTSid 02-14-2007 10:40 PM

its the ring and pinion that makes it weak. and the 1.6, 6" is garbage.

Ive heard of people babying 6" diffs at higher hp, but I chewed mine apart on stock power, so I guess it could go either way

ruger988 02-14-2007 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by VRTSid (Post 82983)
its the ring and pinion that makes it weak. and the 1.6, 6" is garbage.

Ive heard of people babying 6" diffs at higher hp, but I chewed mine apart on stock power, so I guess it could go either way

so if you were 18 and had....limited....money right now..would you do a cheap 1.6 VLSD....cheapER 1.6 open......or borrow as much as you could from as many people as you could to try to do a 1.8 setup?

boostinsteve 02-15-2007 12:15 AM

Get a 1.8 open for now, then upgrade to the lsd of your choice when you get more cash.

Mymiataflys 02-15-2007 04:14 AM

Assuming you know that going to the 1.8 will also require the 1.8 driveshaft and half axles.

Mymiataflys 02-15-2007 04:18 AM

At 150.00 shipped , it might not be a bad idea to pick it up as a spare if you can't afford the 1.8 stuff. I would think that with as many people running the 1.6s in specmiata that there might be some kinda market for the 1.6 vsld if you never used it and then got the money for the 1.8 swap.

boostinsteve 02-15-2007 04:18 AM

Planet Miata sells the complete thing for right at 400 dollars.

Mymiataflys 02-15-2007 04:32 AM

quick look at planet miata shows open diff =200.00, drive shaft= 35.00
axles= 90.00, diff housing=175.00. ~ 500.00 plus shipping versus 150.00.
i remember when i was 18 and 350.00 wasn't chump change but that was 30 years ago so with inflation i guess it's not that much anymore.

magnamx-5 02-15-2007 08:16 AM

350 is still alot but hell go price a 10 bolt or 8.8 inch rear and you will pay that much damn near WO Drivershaft etc.

Braineack 02-15-2007 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by ruger988 (Post 82914)
i was under the impression all LSD's were in the 4 - 500 range?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-91...spagenameZWDVW

not 1.6 rears.


Originally Posted by ruger988 (Post 82922)
too weak for someone who wants to get to and stay right at 200-225WHP?

yes. although I'm doing it, who knows how long it will last.


Originally Posted by ruger988 (Post 82929)
so the VLSD is just as weak as the OPEN diff?

yes. it's the ring-gear that will fail.


Originally Posted by ruger988 (Post 83005)
so if you were 18 and had....limited....money right now..would you do a cheap 1.6 VLSD....cheapER 1.6 open......or borrow as much as you could from as many people as you could to try to do a 1.8 setup?

hell no. what's the point? the VLSD sucks, it's not any stronger than your current open and your obviously looking for better cornering which means more absuse, meaning you need something that won't fail.

Piece together a 1.8 torsen rear or RX7 LSD rear little by little untill you have the time/effort/money to invest in it. otherwise, just treat the rear-end you have with a little respect (ie, no clutch dumps & drifting).

https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/sh...6&postcount=14

BenR 02-15-2007 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mymiataflys (Post 83044)
At 150.00 shipped , it might not be a bad idea to pick it up as a spare if you can't afford the 1.8 stuff. I would think that with as many people running the 1.6s in specmiata that there might be some kinda market for the 1.6 vsld if you never used it and then got the money for the 1.8 swap.


Spec miata guys prefer the clutch type from mazda over the vlsd.

Think about it this way. Is the extra couple of hundred dollars worth not missing work or an exam and spending the money all over again because your diff broke on the freeway?

ruger988 02-15-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 83053)
Piece together a 1.8 torsen rear or RX7 LSD rear little by little untill you have the time/effort/money to invest in it. otherwise, just treat the rear-end you have with a little respect (ie, no clutch dumps & drifting).

https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/sh...6&postcount=14

there's no "treating it with respect" it's gone...completely!

but i'll probably end up getting the 1.6 VLSD for now and in about 6 months or so taking it out for a 1.8 setup and re-selling it....

gwilo 02-15-2007 12:55 PM

I was looking around for the past few months for a LSD they go for $ 800 to 1000.

Do not even think of a 6" diff. it is just a waste of money.

The "cheap" way is to buy a open 7" (1.8L) for now and they upgrade the internals later to a Torsen of RX-7 clutch type later.

If you are thinking ... OBX .... go kick yourself :) they are no stronger that the 1.6L open diff

PAT! 02-15-2007 12:55 PM

Has anyone looked into cryo-treating the ring and pinion? Or something similar?

VRTSid 02-15-2007 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by ruger988 (Post 83005)
so if you were 18 and had....limited....money right now..would you do a cheap 1.6 VLSD....cheapER 1.6 open......or borrow as much as you could from as many people as you could to try to do a 1.8 setup?

rub your pennies together and pop for the open 1.8
then later when you have the cash just replace the meatball with somthing else


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