This turbo blanket is the business!
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Install was easy. I saw that others were cutting a notch out of the entire side of the blanket and thought it would be better for integrity just to stick the arm through the blanket. Just use an awl or punch to start the hole and a screwdriver to make it bigger. Do not use a drillbit. The blanket will not interfere in any way with actuation of the wastegate.
Temps in the area are dramatically lower... well worth the $$, a highly recommended item. Shown on an SR20det T25, fits a lot better than others were guessing it would. These blankets fit snug up against the turbine housing if they're external wastegate... but with internal, it's not gonna be perfect no matter how the turbo is oriented. I'm extremely pleased overall. |
looks good.
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I did exactly what you did for the arm.
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I've mounted mine upside down from yours... wonder if it's significant? Just by looking, yours appears to fit better. Next time I'm under the hood, I'll have to flip it over and see.
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Man i want one.
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Samnavy, I'm not digging the blankets, but I have DP envy. Although, it does nicely clean up that side of the engine.
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Hi,
Where did you by the blanked? What brand is it? Cheers, Timo |
^There was a group buy a few weeks back. Check the group buy forum... but I'm sure the buy has ended and all blankets are sold.
They're usually about $130 on eBay. All of those blankets are the same, brand won't matter... here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...spagenameZWDVW |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 296097)
I've mounted mine upside down from yours... wonder if it's significant? Just by looking, yours appears to fit better. Next time I'm under the hood, I'll have to flip it over and see.
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Holla!!
http://gallery.y8s.com/d/17049-2/DSC02741.JPG they may still be available at the original place of purchase that Kelly/WOT set up. Ummm... and this thread is SUPER OLD so you've been warned: https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5990 |
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OK... rightside up now. It fits a lot better and now covers the flange and a good portion of the top of the manifold.
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that's such a cute little turbo :giggle:
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Just got mine today. They are impressively heavy. Very nice. Heading out to try and install it. Not easy to reach everything with the S4 mani and every possible option on the car.
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Ruh Roh. I don't see any way this thing will fit with the BEGI S4 mani and DP. The support for the mani and supply lines are all very much in the way. Dropping the turbo down it has a lot less room around it. All that metal mesh is sharp. Jeez, I hate metal slivers. This will take a lot of cutting and swearing to get in. Aargh.
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Originally Posted by Arkmage
(Post 296522)
that's such a cute little turbo :giggle:
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has anyone had any ill effect from blanketing the turbine house. I didnt know if they would cause problems like wrapping a downpipe. But my guess is there wouldn't be any issues. Looks good sam nice setup.
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OK, mines on. Had to reach up through wheel well to shove it up behind the turbo up toward the mani. Had to cut slit in end to fit around the oil inlet tube. Not overly pretty but it's on. While I had the heat sheilds off I went ahead and added some heat sheild fabric to those. With the blanket and additional sheilding I'm hoping underhood temps come down some. I'll add pics tomorrow.
Now to finish the splitter/undertray and install the slim fans. |
cueball, yours is not on, looks horribly ugly, and even with the car off, raises underhood temperatures by 500 degrees. it is also in your best interest to bite the financial bullet and get rid of it by giving it to me. you like this idea.
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Definitely a superb item. Really glad I got it. Installation was easy as cake and it fits great.
Thanks Zabac. |
Are you guys having any smoking issues? This morning I drove apprxoimately 15 minutes of freeway driving, and the car smelt like ass. Got to work and saw the blanket was smoking...not a huge amount by any means, but enough to see with the hood still closed. Smoke continued for about 10 minutes after I parked...hopefully its just a break in smoke session:giggle:
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Mine is smoking slightly, but just about everything that operates at 600* smokes a little when you first install it.
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Got some odor from mine too. Hoping it's just "break in".
Curly, You were my 1st choice if I couldn't have got this on reasonbly yesterday. Unfortunately I was able to manuver/ squeeze/ fanagle it into place. Sucks to be you. Hope to see you at the track some time. My schedule sucks. |
I didnt get my blanket from the group buy, but I think mine works pretty darn good. I also buillt a cheapo aluminum box to go around the downpipe to help with the heat. I lined the inside with the DEI reflective tape. Those two things help to keep the heat down.
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I wonder what the chances are that the blanket will fit with a BEGI heatshield on a gt2554r? I want to run both as the shield covers a significant amount of the DP and shields the heater hoses, and just plan looks awesome!
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Mine smelled for a couple of weeks when I first installed it. It will go away gradually. Now I do not notice it at all.
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Looks great.
Now, I have to install mine tonight. Along with injector O'rings. LOL |
Awesome thanks for the responses in terms of smell and smoke.
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Here's my install with the BEGI S4 mani. Not overly pretty. Had to make a couple of cuts to get it wrapped around the Mani support and oil inlet. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...1508_13031.jpg Attachment 211749 While I was at it I added some heat shield fabric to one of the heat shields, intake pipes and the intake surround. Drilled some holes, used nut/bolt and large washer to hold the fabric to the shields. Lining the inside of the intake surround quieted the intake noise a bunch. Not silent but certainly less intrusive/ stealthier. |
Well, the blankets don't like heat shields combined with track days. The post just before this one is before. This picture is after. Sorry, crappy phone pic. The blanket where heat is shielded at all whether it's the block, heat shield, or other object close by turned to ash. If it wasn't for the metal mesh it would just disintegrate. No problem with every day driving. HPDE did it in.
This picture is after the 1st session. Pretty much crumbling apart after the 4th. They'll take some heat but don't plan on them taking serious HEAT! That bright white area on the right is a hole. The gray area on the left it's burned to ash. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...2508_10211.jpg |
this may be a dumb question but... why are you using both?
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There is still the heat from the Manifold and DP to manage. Needs to be kept from the brake and clutch hydraulics, heater lines, etc. The blanket only keeps heat in from the turbo. There's plenty of heat coming off those other sources too. With the S4 Mani the blanket toasted between the turbo and the block too. I haven't crawled under or pulled it off to see just how much is toast. I'm guessing about 1/2 of it is gone.
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Jeez, the Hustler ban even screws up people's sig's using his quotes. Get him back in here!
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Awesome information to have... looks like the grey fabric is the weak link. Perhaps instead of a heat-shield that insulates the mani/turbo, it would be wiser if using a blanket to shield/wrap individual components in the engine bay. I think with the S4, a ceramic coated manifold and turbo-blanket would cure 90% of our ills... the heater core lines and brake reservoir are easily "individually shielded".
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Ceramic coating would have been the thing to do. Didn't know to even consider it when I had the car done. That thing pours out a lot of heat. For anyone doing a tubular header spend the extra money up front and get HEAVY ceramic coating done. Now that it's in the car, it's such a pain in the butt to remove I'm going to keep screwing around with bandaids.
The outside blackish material is now nearly white, the padding inside is basically ash and falls apart to the touch. The sides look OK, it's the 3" wide band of material that wraps around that's gone. |
Now you just need to wrap your dp...
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Turbo blankets are an effective way to overtemp your turbine housing (leading to warps/cracks).
If you want to protect nearby items from the radiated heat of a turbo, you're better off to shield those components individually... |
uh oh.
first corky, now jay. |
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I like simple sheetmetal heatshields surrounding the sensitive bits. A little airgap goes a long way. Add sticky-back gold foil stuff to them too.
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Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 301243)
Add sticky-back gold foil stuff to them too.
in my bookmarks: http://www.motorarmor.com/productinfo.htm |
This is the gold shiz I'm talking about:
http://www.designengineering.com/pro...sp?m=sp&pid=75 |
Oops yeah, I think everyone sells pretty much the same stuff.
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I've had GREAT luck with my solution. I bought the following kit for around $36:
Click Here I didn't install it as pictured. The kit comes with an inner 2000° coated fiberglass sheet (perhaps 12"X18"), then it also comes with a large (maybe 18"x36") 1000° outer fiberglass sheet with a foil layer. I wrapped the turbo in the inner coated fiberglass layer folded in half for double thickness. I then used the fiberglass/foil piece is doubled and used for the liner of my heat shield. http://alexroy.net/miata/P6186133.JPG It's easy to remove to get to the turbo if I need. I just used some left over diamond plate scrap, a MIG to weld the shield, and some pop-rivets to attach the fiberglass to the shield. |
Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 301243)
I like simple sheetmetal heatshields surrounding the sensitive bits. A little airgap goes a long way. Add sticky-back gold foil stuff to them too.
There's a reason nasa uses it on junk floating in space. for now though, the shiny aluminum tape will do almost as well. much cheaper at homedeep too. |
Yeah, blanket's going bye bye today. Gotta finish the damn undertray project and see if I can get better airflow through the engine bay.
Originally Posted by JKav
(Post 301212)
Turbo blankets are an effective way to overtemp your turbine housing (leading to warps/cracks...
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Originally Posted by cueball1
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Where was this advice and discussion when the blanket buy was going on!!! |
WHAT? WHAT DID HE SAY? EHHH?
Your fly's burst glistening? Do gays drink listerine? Your days want lemonade? Damn. Gotta check the batteries again. |
wouldn't the greater surface area and thinner material of the downpipe and manifold make more sense to try to trap in the heat than the thicker metal and relatively small area of the turbo?
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