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albumleaf 12-31-2009 12:47 AM

Get the dog whisperer to drive your car.

magnamx-5 12-31-2009 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 502411)
I didn't read this whole thread cause I know from experience. You are running 8psi on a 1.6 liter with the same turbo as I run on my 1.8. If your clutch is stock, you will lose. If your at the track and your time slip doesn't have at least a 2.02 60', you will lose. I raced my friend's '93 mustang that has a 306 with trick flow top end. He can't drive. I was running 12psi (roughly 210whp dyno proven on my car) my car weighs 2350 with me sitting in it. I launched like a pussy so my clutch wouldn't slip (cause it's still stock). The center of his front wheel was inline with my front bumper when we crossed the line. Meaning he beat me by 1-2 tenths of a second. Don't run slicks or drag radials, run a good street tire. The '95 mustang if I am mistaken is heavier than a fox body, but still, 4psi less, with less power than me? If I have to place my bet, I'm not sure who I'd put it on. Moral of the story, don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

um actualy given the timming he is running with WI or could run he would make the same power as you so yeah not as fair a comparison as you think besides a trick flow kit on a mustang is a pretty good boost to performance as is most trickflow kits have heads etc to go with the cam wich put the car in the 300 whp range if done properly yes a 95 5.0 is about 600 lbs heavier than a fox body(a vert is about 700lbs more) so if his car performs anywhere near as well as yours he should win.

thirdgen 12-31-2009 01:01 AM

The fox body mustang is actually what set the time standard that 100lbs= 1/10 of a second in the quarter mile. So you're telling me that .6-.7 seconds + a good driver is going to loose to an 8psi 1.6 liter? Doubtful. I'm not trying to be a fuckin asshole, I'm just trying to say, if this dude is planning on wagering any money, maybe he should think twice. There was too many a time when I thought my car was fast shit, and I got beaten and came to reality. Before I get any beef with anybody, lets see what hapens. If he blows that shitstain's doors in, then tell me you told me so. If he gets beat by a tenth of a second, he still got beat. The big question, and the question that determines what'll happen is this: What clutch is he running?

thirdgen 12-31-2009 01:05 AM

Aside from that, this guys signature is about as sesame street as his name. I.E. IT BLOWS. I made 210whp at 12psi on a MS-1 in parallel with stock exhaust. My timing sucked, but you can't tell me he'll make as much power as me on a 1.6 liter at 8psi with the same turbo. No way in HELL.

magnamx-5 12-31-2009 01:34 AM

iono all im saying is i did it for 1200 bucks its quite possible. Only time and racing will tell though. As rule of thumb i nvr wager more than i can afford to loose so either way he will have a good time and win some cash or have a decent race and loose some cash.

thirdgen 12-31-2009 02:01 AM

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Whatever happens we all better hear about!
I just hope that Mustang with the body kit doesn't look like this:
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chris824 12-31-2009 02:56 AM

yooouuuuu got this easily I left a 06 mustang gt and im on 11 pounds with a greddy, and a bipes with 305cc,;) trust me there too heavy

18psi 12-31-2009 03:00 AM

Trust me you beat the driver ;)
A properly driven 06 mustang gt would not lose to a 1.6L small turbo low boost miata on bandaids.

spoolin2bars 12-31-2009 03:04 AM

i bet that mustang runs a 16 sec. pass. those convertibles are the worst turds ever. i bet you run low 15 sec.

thirdgen 12-31-2009 03:17 AM

If this is true, than you win. I doubt that runs a low 16 sec though. Best I ran with my car stock was a 16.09. if a 5.0 in 1995 only runs 16's than that is REALLY pathetic. A Dodge Neon 2 door 5 speed with an air intake and a FART can should be able to beat that.

miata2fast 12-31-2009 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 502440)
i bet that mustang runs a 16 sec. pass. those convertibles are the worst turds ever. i bet you run low 15 sec.

They are turds, but if he has more modifications than he is willing to admit, then the Miata driver could be in trouble. One thing that I have learned about racers that bet money, they are all liers.

My biggest concern is the fact that the Miata still has an early diff. Chances of it failing, although not guarranteed, is making the race risky. The fastest I went with my first 1.6 liter car in the 60' was a 1.9 on radials. I broke 2 rearends!

Cookie Monster, get an updated diff, run slicks, profit. 13.30's!?!?!?!?

turotufas 12-31-2009 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Cookie Monster (Post 502270)
This ricer-autozone-mexican type guy wants to race my Miata.

Nice imagery. ahaha.

My friend beats on those in a Honda. D16 single cam. Full interior. The launch is key. You can do it . Now if it was a straight 5.0l then no. Those run 12's with the right gearing.

FastColt 12-31-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spoolin2bars (Post 502440)
i bet that mustang runs a 16 sec. pass. those convertibles are the worst turds ever. i bet you run low 15 sec.

True statement, i bet that thing doesnt go any better then a 16.5. Spend 40 bucks on a cheap i/c and pipes, crank boost to 15psi, and laugh as you spank him all the way to immigration.

You can borrow these from me so you can cut a 1.6 60ft lol
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pschmidt 12-31-2009 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by miata2fast (Post 502476)
One thing that I have learned about racers that bet money, they are all liers.

We prefer the term hustler or sandbagger, thanks. ;)

hustler 12-31-2009 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 502413)
Get the dog whisperer to drive your car.

:bowrofl:

miata2fast 12-31-2009 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by pschmidt (Post 502491)
We prefer the term hustler or sandbagger, thanks. ;)


It depends on who is doing the lying. :hustler:

r808 12-31-2009 10:00 AM

Why are people still suggesting to launch a car with a 1.6 diff? That is beyond stupid advice!!

flash13783 12-31-2009 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by r808 (Post 502508)
Why are people still suggesting to launch a car with a 1.6 diff? That is beyond stupid advice!!

x2 Bone stock I tried to do a launch and managed to destroy my diff racing a lincoln :facepalm:
I now have a torsen :p

Splitime 12-31-2009 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by flash13783 (Post 502509)
x2 Bone stock I tried to do a launch and managed to destroy my diff racing a lincoln :facepalm:
I now have a torsen :p

That was actually your car attempting to kill itself out of embarrassment.

flash13783 12-31-2009 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Splitime (Post 502511)
That was actually your car attempting to kill itself out of embarrassment.

lol probably if only I knew then what I know now


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