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Old 04-08-2012, 10:32 AM   #1
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First off i want to say i am in no way trying to bash anyones car or anyone. Im quite fond of the idea and i love the car!.
Now with that out of the way ive come from a 550whp Neon srt4 that car was fast, the power was useless most of the time so i sold it. I then wanted a Miata but found a 240sx and rb25ed it. While the 240 is ok i cant for the life of me drop this Miata out of my head. Ive never driven a turbo miata but i had a quick ride in one. I cant remember how it felt because it was only a very short ride. I did drive a stock NB and i thought the motor had work to it because i thought it felt semi decent.
I want a 11 sec car atleast 12sec how hard will it be to achieve this in a miata?
What will it take for a Miata to get there?
Im in the middle of trading my 240 for a 92 T25 94k. Stock ecu, injectors 9psi Will this car wow me?
If i do get it whats my next mod? Which ecu aem ems or ms?
I need a car that is quick on and off the track..
Is a turbo miata the car for me?

Thanks for your time!
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You owe me a ten second car.
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To run that fast in a miata you will need motor with strong internals (not stock), you'll need at least a Gt 2871 turbo, at least 600cc injectors, and OF COURSE a stand alone ECU. Also, a really good clutch, sticky tires, and a trans that won't explode.
I don't think it's worth it for you.

"Stock ecu, injectors 9psi Will this car wow me?"

If you are wow'd running 13.9 at 101...than yes...WOW.
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Thanks where will 250whp get me?
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Drag racing? Who cares? The Miata is so much more. Power is for accelerating out of corners and being able to induce oversteer as needed.

If you want a dragster, get a Mustang.

Also, and importantly, the top goes down on a Miata.
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Not only drag racing, I'm past that point, I want an all around car. The 240 is only drift capable not much more.
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The 240 is only drift capable not much else.


OP has no hope.

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Miata is best all around car. 250whp will get you a really fast driver. My car is making just under 200whp right now, I was on higher boost a year ago and dyno'd at 225whp. 25whp difference in a Miata is different than 25whp different in say, a mustang. I think you'd be really happy with 250whp. If my car made 250whp as a daily driver (someday it will), I'd be done with it.
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Dann please take your humor somewhere else, I'm here for honest opinions. Grow up, enough of the rude and ignorant responses. Keep those out please and thank you.
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The questions and statements in your first post tell us that a Miata is not for you. These cars are more about circuit racing and learning EFI tuning. It's more about the journey than the product. However, the product is a 10:1 lb:WHP, double wishbone, 50/50 RWD chariot of death.
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Thirdgen thanks! Is it hard to achieve that power level? Maybe with the use of a little water/meth? I have a kit I could use!
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Dann please take your humor somewhere else, I'm here for honest opinions. Grow up, enough of the rude and ignorant responses. Keep those out please and thank you.
You already covered ignorance in your previous 10 posts. Also, where is the ignorance? Where does his post indicate a lack of information?
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These cars are more about circuit racing and learning EFI tuning. It's more about the journey than the product.
I've owned my miata for 5 years now, and the ENTIRE time was a learning experience. I truly believe this would not have happened with any other car, but I also wouldn't have had as much fun.

Here are some definitions through my eyes.

Mustang: Me too car.
Guy #1 "Hey man what did you do this weekend?"
Guy #2 "I put a flowmaster exhaust on my mustang."
Guy #1 "Really? Me too!"

Honda product: "I make a lot of horsepower N/A, but it happens at higher RPM's than you can rev your motor at, and I make the lowest amount of torque possible."

240: "I drift"

Miata: "After I spent all this money and did zero research, I had to sell all my stuff cause I blew my motor and had a junk setup. My new setup has had countless hours of research put into it, and cause of that, my car doesn't move...it spins the world underneath it. It wipes is a$$ with countless vettes and Porsche's at every event it enters."
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Thirdgen thanks! Is it hard to achieve that power level? Maybe with the use of a little water/meth? I have a kit I could use!
What are you going to do with the car? Living your life a quarter mile at a time with the high school kids and doing what I do are two different things and about $10k apart. Most people lack the testosterone needed to achieve this level of masculinity, so advise us of your intent / virility.
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I've owned my miata for 5 years now, and the ENTIRE time was a learning experience. I truly believe this would not have happened with any other car, but I also wouldn't have had as much fun.

Here are some definitions through my eyes.

Mustang: Me too car.
Guy #1 "Hey man what did you do this weekend?"
Guy #2 "I put a flowmaster exhaust on my mustang."
Guy #1 "Really? Me too!"

Honda product: "I make a lot of horsepower N/A, but it happens at higher RPM's than you can rev your motor at, and I make the lowest amount of torque possible."

240: "I drift"

Miata: "After I spent all this money and did zero research, I had to sell all my stuff cause I blew my motor and had a junk setup. My new setup has had countless hours of research put into it, and cause of that, my car doesn't move...it spins the world underneath it. It wipes is a$$ with countless vettes and Porsche's at every event it enters."
Yeah, we definitely take it to another level. It's crazy for me to reflect on how far I've come in terms of understanding engineering as it relates to racing a car and understanding EFI. I also have a blast ---- stomping mudholes in fast, expensive cars at the track.
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^Listen to these assholes OP.

You may not want to hear what they say, but if you want to only go fast in a straight line, you've got the wrong car probably.
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I want a fun car to whip thru a few back roads. Im looking for maybe a car good at auto x, id love to get into the circuit course racing. And I love the idea of a vert.
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Op it will cost you abou $14k to put a miata in the 11s

If you want a reliable trans and diff to drag it add on another $6k

I recommend driving one stock. I have a stock power one in addition to my turbo car and it is a lot of fun.
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I want a fun car to whip thru a few back roads. Im looking for maybe a car good at auto x, id love to get into the circuit course racing. And I love the idea of a vert.
Stay stock.

If you want to track hard turboed, plan for $20k and A LOT of time working on your car on little details. Hustlers car also leaves a trail of tears behind it and it runs on "direct cash injection"
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Lol @ "manifest destiny" and a thrwadstarted with what appears to be an Indian name.

Threadstarter, where are you located. If you say OK, I will laugh.
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