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shuiend 06-25-2013 02:46 PM

Also remember that the Exocet importer for the US is based out of Atlanta. So for DIY to have the kit maker local is a big added bonus.

Ben 06-25-2013 08:16 PM

I looked at several kits before contacting Exomotive. I went this direction for many reasons. Some of which, in no particular order, are functionality, proximity, cost, openness of their chief engineer to share data publicly, and rapid and friendly email response. Love or hate the cosmetics, I don't care. Cosmetics are a secondary concern to me. The car actually does not photograph well, and I was surprised how much better it looks in person.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1024960)
I barely drive the miata anymore as is. It could be cool to have a real project and then a really fun weekend car. I wouldn't complain as much about the motor after shaving 800lbs off the damn thing. Would probably step it down to a t25 finally.

Ding ding ding. I've noticed that I enjoy the build process and eventually get bored with a finished car. Frankly I've owned many Miatas over the last 13 years, they've been great to me, but it's time to freshen things up. I'm excited about taking on the project. I think it's going to be a load of fun to build and drive.


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1025067)
Also remember that the Exocet importer for the US is based out of Atlanta. So for DIY to have the kit maker local is a big added bonus.

Actually Exomotive is now the manufacturer. The kits are assembled 30 minutes from our shop. This opens up many opportunities, not just for Ben to get a new fun car, but also for DIYAutoTune.com to partner with Exomotive and help release some great new products that will benefit us both, as well as benefit our many customers that I expect we will mutually share. It just felt like a natural partnership to me.

curly 06-25-2013 09:09 PM

They're limited by the front subframe aren't they? That's the benefit over a 7 kit, yes? No new subframe, steering rack, drive shaft, or suspension arms? I think they did a lot with the looks for what they had to work with.

Ben 06-25-2013 09:43 PM

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Correct. The Exocet retains the Miata's front and rear subframes, suspension, brakes, engine, driveshaft, transmission, differential, and axles. And any engine swap that fits into a Miata should also fit in the Exocet. Some sort of LS1 type swap is a viable option for the chassis, one day.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372211025

Leafy 06-25-2013 09:45 PM

You have no idea how much I love that cartoon compared to the cartoons at work.

z31maniac 06-26-2013 01:50 AM

Yep, in the GRM thread Warren hints at Exocet specific wiring harnesses and ECU's developed specifically for the chassis.......so buying bits and pieces could make since if you can't find a decent donor.

And with Ben, if you go read the GRM thread I linked, we all asked alot of questions which Warren was more than forthright about. So even though now my goals don't seem to line up with an Exocet build (unless the money situation changes drastically in the next 18 months)..........I still think it's an awesome platform with a lot of potential.

I'll be watching this thread with excitement.

psreynol 06-26-2013 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by NiklasFalk (Post 1024839)
Why not add a GRP Miata shell on top of it just for the looks :)
One-piece front, a wide-body rear, fastback HT and you're almost there.

A light Miata or a heavy and ugly Seven/Atom replica?

that would be awesome.

z31maniac 06-26-2013 11:55 AM

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Full race version with aero.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372262111

Ben 07-01-2013 07:22 PM

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MS3-Pro (01-05 MSPNP Prototype) tuning on the donor car
-dotted stock computer, solid MS3-Pro-
A little fat still in that 2500-3000 range, but overall a much better fuel curve than what the stock ECU provides. A little higher rev limiter, too. OK, a lot higher. An extra 500 rpm. :)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372720941
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1372720941

IcantDo55 07-03-2013 12:37 AM

Sub'd

Braineack 07-03-2013 08:07 AM

Did you fool with VVT maps on the above dnyo?

Ben 07-03-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1027758)
Did you fool with VVT maps on the above dnyo?

Yes, steady state to 4000rpm, with ramp runs 4000+

Braineack 07-03-2013 08:58 AM

do you expect to get that +5 rwtq if you fix the fueling between 2500-3500?

Ben 07-03-2013 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1027774)
do you expect to get that +5 rwtq if you fix the fueling between 2500-3500?

Yeah, that's just fuel. It's a tad rich there. Spark and valve timing were optimized by steady state dyno with real time torque readout.
It would pick up a few more hp up top if a little fuel was taken out. The car's really no dyno queen though, it's too stock to make any impressive amount of power.

Braineack 07-03-2013 09:17 AM

but +5rwtq throughout the entire powerband is pretty nice.

Ben 07-03-2013 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1027779)
but +5rwtq throughout the entire powerband is pretty nice.

Yes, but the 500 rpm higher rev limit is even better.

Braineack 07-03-2013 10:46 AM

make it 1000 rpm, you can do it!

Leafy 07-03-2013 10:47 AM

Yes you can.

Ben 07-04-2013 04:32 PM

Float Valve, Float!

I'll offer free dyno time to either one of you... if you're willing to pull your stock motor to 8000+

Leafy 07-04-2013 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 1028423)
Float Valve, Float!

I'll offer free dyno time to either one of you... if you're willing to pull your stock motor to 8000+

Is this VVT exclusive or do 99-00 engines count?


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