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elesjuan 02-11-2008 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 212602)
I give up. ES is absolutely the most horrid company I've ever tried to deal with. They don't know their ass from their elbow, and the guy you need to speak with is always at lunch (no matter who you need and no matter the reason you need him). I got more warnings to NOT purchase from the site Rob linked--but I also don't have any viable alternatives for you guys either. :mad:

Sounds like I'll order a set of those bushings from the site posted with Paypal and find out whats wrong... Maybe ES is just trying to scare us away from buying them for some stupid reason?

chriscar 02-11-2008 06:20 PM

I just got off the phone with lightningmotorsports.com - here's the follow up email. I'll post his reply when I get it.

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Hey Tom,

Just got off the phone with you. Please get back to me with group buy pricing on qty 10, ES #11.18102 HyperFlex Master Kit - Mazda Miata

Per our conversation, I'm going to tell the guys that this is normally in the $240 price range, and you should be able to do approx 15% off. Also that this is a new part, and ES is a build-to-order manufacturer, so it will take somewhere in the neighborhood of 2-3 weeks once you're paid for the parts from us.

Please confirm this, and let me know if anything I've stated is incorrect.

Thanks,
Chris
************************************

Also, he put me on hold and called ES and they're saying this is a new part number that's just coming online, and they haven't shipped any yet.

So, what's it take to set up a group buy here?

C

soflarick 02-11-2008 06:22 PM

I'd be in line for the GP.

elesjuan 02-11-2008 07:26 PM

Put me on that list.

jayc72 02-11-2008 08:22 PM

Start a new thread in the correct section and then start a list of names. Maybe shoot one of the mods a PM and he'll stick it to the top.

Add me to the list.

Jay

chriscar 02-11-2008 08:23 PM

Already sent the PM. We'll see what happens.

C

Ben 02-11-2008 08:25 PM

Let's leave it here until (if) it becomes reality. Like I said, ES is NOT an easy company to deal with.

If it's going to go through, let me know, and I'll move and sticky it.

chriscar 02-14-2008 06:44 PM

The group buy is posted here - $209 shipped.

C

tronik 02-20-2008 05:33 PM

just got my diff mounts jsut as I ordered. So 11 days later they arrived. I don't see the problem Energy has with this site. Maybe they think they aren't charging enough.

chriscar 02-20-2008 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by tronik (Post 217202)
I don't see the problem Energy has with this site. Maybe they think they aren't charging enough.

What do you mean by that?

C

RotorNutFD3S 02-20-2008 08:20 PM

I'm interested in the group buy going on since new bushings are on the to-do list. However, I've read a lot of complaints about noise with poly bushings, while others have no issues. What gives?
Also, some sites I've been reading while researching the topic say to avoid bushings with graphite because it doesn't come in contact properly with the metal, and when it does, it washes away too easily. And graphite also can cause the polyurethane to deteriorate if there is too much in it.
Just want some things cleared up before I go for this...

jayc72 02-20-2008 08:57 PM

I'm considering installing zerk fittings when I change mine over. That way they can be greased a lot easier.

Emillo has good pictures on miata.net, search for zerk and you'll come across it quite easily.

tronik 02-20-2008 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by chriscar (Post 217205)
What do you mean by that?

C

I mean supposedly energy suspension has warned against using the site I ordered from and which is running the group buy. But since my mounts came quickly, and the phone calls to energy from a couple people have been answered by guys that were a bit...terse...I wonder why they are saying not to order from this site. My experience was certainly good. If only they sold engine mounts...

chriscar 02-20-2008 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by tronik (Post 217306)
I mean supposedly energy suspension has warned against using the site I ordered from

Interesting, where'd you hear that?


Originally Posted by tronik (Post 217306)
and which is running the group buy.

They have a problem with Lightningmotorsports too? :confused:

C

spike 02-20-2008 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 217290)
I'm considering installing zerk fittings when I change mine over. That way they can be greased a lot easier.

Emillo has good pictures on miata.net, search for zerk and you'll come across it quite easily.

That would be a really good idea.I just installed 4 zerk fittings on my front & rear sway bars.

The best thing about the zerk fittings was the price,I paid $1.08 for all four.

spike 02-20-2008 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by tronik (Post 217306)
If only they sold engine mounts...

ES is working on it,thanks to Bill at miataroadster.

tronik 02-20-2008 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 211357)
I called Energy to try to set up an account. Initial impressions:
-They are hard as fuck to deal with. I won't get into it, but the customer experience didn't leave me with the warm, fuzzy feeling.
-Dealer Buy In is $10k minimum. :eek:
-They specifically recommended NOT buying from the website that Rob linked. Said there were LOTS of problems with them.
-Everything is made to order. They do not warehouse anything.
-You can get the kit with graphite (black) or red at the same cost

I'm going to try to set up an account/groupbuy. No promises at this time though.

this.

tronik 02-20-2008 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by spike (Post 217314)
ES is working on it,thanks to Bill at miataroadster.

yayyyyyyy

driftbandito 02-21-2008 02:38 AM

Are these bushings a 2 piece design or a single piece that would need a press to install? I only ask this because I know that the energy suspension bushing set for a 240 was mostly a 2 piece design with very few pieces that required the use of a press.

chriscar 02-21-2008 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by tronik (Post 217315)
this.

Thanks for the clarification.

C


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