what the eff clutch, help!
The past few days my clutch pedal has been real sticky, hesitating to pop back out when compressed. Today I am slowly pulling out of the bank and I give the clutch one good kick and bam my clutch is no more. There is zero resistance and obviously no clutch engagement. The clutch is a 6 puck which felt like it had a lot of life left. Could it be the throw out bearing, clutch, clutch booster?
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You can have someone press the pedal and look at the slave cylinder to see if it's still doing it's thing.
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There's a big pool of fluid on the ground coming from the passenger side, probably clutch fluid. It looks like possibly a line broke, ill post pics when I get home
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Slave and/or master. Rebuild or replace both. Search for info. There's a step by step in the M.net garage section.
Passenger side indicates slave. |
Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 910843)
Slave and/or master. Rebuild or replace both. Search for info. There's a step by step in the M.net garage section.
Passenger side indicates slave. |
I have a perfect condition master cyl if you end up needing one
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here is the pic I managed to snap, thinking this is the slave?
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1343959471 |
did u take the bolts off? I dont see any bolts holding it in place..
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FYI...I just bought a clutch slave from
949 racing today for 14.99. Looks like you'll need 1. |
Originally Posted by Clos561
(Post 910856)
did u take the bolts off? I dont see any bolts holding it in place..
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Replace it anyway. Then you rebuild that one, and keep it as a spare.
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Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 910936)
Replace it anyway. Then you rebuild that one, and keep it as a spare.
I didn't even remove it, just loosened the two bolts IIRC. I bought a replacement slave afterwards and it's been sitting in a box for three years now. |
If it is missing bolts, then the piston just popped out. One bolt goes missing, slave pivots, pistone moves too much.
Overtorqued bolts could strip and slip out of the aluminum trans over time. Might have to drill and retap the bolt holes if so. |
There are two bolts that hold the slave on. Your top bolt is missing. It worked a bit for a few shifts and then the whole slave spun out of position on the lower bolt. Put the piston back in the cylinder and replace the missing bolt. Check for leaking or fatigued hydraulic lines that might have been bent or damaged.
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Yes, but the boot is torn. Imminent failure, even if you bolt it back in correctly.
Bad boot will let crap into the bore, where it can score the bore or seal and it will fail. Probably at the worst possible time. Best to rebuild or replace and have a spare. |
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I would still replace it, but he might need to re-thread the bolts if he doesn't want it to happen again.
From your picture it looks like the top bolt is gone. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1344084590 how to here -> Miata Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement buy here -> Miata MX5 clutch slave cylinder Or local if you need it asap. Aluminum is super easy to strip. ( learned from experience ) But from the looks of that slave cylinder ( old ) it looks like the bolt could have just loosened over time, if so buy another bolt ( match to the one left ) and it should be fairly straight forward. |
What an excellent opportunity to install a SS clutch line !
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Originally Posted by AkaZero
(Post 911300)
I would still replace it, but he might need to re-thread the bolts if he doesn't want it to happen again.
From your picture it looks like the top bolt is gone. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1344084590 how to here -> Miata Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement buy here -> Miata MX5 clutch slave cylinder Or local if you need it asap. Aluminum is super easy to strip. ( learned from experience ) But from the looks of that slave cylinder ( old ) it looks like the bolt could have just loosened over time, if so buy another bolt ( match to the one left ) and it should be fairly straight forward. you guys are so very helpful, I appreciate it |
No. Those are torque values.
A 1.5mm bolt size would be tiny. |
Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 912450)
No. Those are torque values.
A 1.5mm bolt size would be tiny. |
Searching google reveals that the bolt is M8 x 1.25 which uses a 12mm wrench. Length is somewhere around 25mm.
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Originally Posted by TheDriver
(Post 912451)
aren't the threads on NA miatas lug nuts 1.5mm?
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Best way to get the right bolt is to either:
A: buy it from a dealer ( expensive, takes time ) B: Pull the bolt that is still there, ( check the other hole's threads while you are there ) then take that bolt to your local hardware store and buy a matching bolt. Just make sure to get a suitable grade of bolt. Then put in a new slave cylinder, bolt no with your new bolts, bleed the clutch and then have fun. |
you guys are the best, thanks
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https://www.miataturbo.net/suspensio...ve-help-30133/
here is the previous owner being an idiot, he probably just neglected to install the top bolt that he was having trouble with. I'm guessing I will run into the same problem of not having enough room to install it correctly :/ |
Well, if the distance between the slave and the fork is now correct and the slave isn't completely compressed to fit, then it would seem he just forgot to put the top bolt in. This would obviouslky bind up and fail. It's a bit of a trick to get the slave compressed while installing, but it can be done...I've done it a few times. If you have the time/money, I'd highly recommend getting a "race" stainless steel clutch line while you're in there. It goes between the slave and the upper hard line and makes installing everything much easier.
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 912471)
Well, if the distance between the slave and the fork is now correct and the slave isn't completely compressed to fit, then it would seem he just forgot to put the top bolt in. This would obviouslky bind up and fail. It's a bit of a trick to get the slave compressed while installing, but it can be done...I've done it a few times. If you have the time/money, I'd highly recommend getting a "race" stainless steel clutch line while you're in there. It goes between the slave and the upper hard line and makes installing everything much easier.
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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger
(Post 912471)
Well, if the distance between the slave and the fork is now correct and the slave isn't completely compressed to fit, then it would seem he just forgot to put the top bolt in. This would obviouslky bind up and fail. It's a bit of a trick to get the slave compressed while installing, but it can be done...I've done it a few times. If you have the time/money, I'd highly recommend getting a "race" stainless steel clutch line while you're in there. It goes between the slave and the upper hard line and makes installing everything much easier.
it looks like there might already be a stainless line |
Well, if it currently looks that compressed, the transmission will need to come out as it's not supposed to look like that.
If all is well, like this... http://www.sofa-king.org/20050201-clutchsc/KIF_0841.JPG ...then it's using two hands and a few words in anger to get it all lined up. It's a matter of getting the rod nipple seated into the fork and getting the bolt holes lined up. It's not really that bad if you are flexable. |
is there any way to bend transmission piece that the slave rod bumps into? Or, will that mess up the tranny?
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The angle of your picture shows you should have more then enough room to get a socket and extension to tighten the bolt.
Jack up the passenger side and take the tire off, YOU NEED THAT TOP BOLT.... |
TheDriver, you need to figure out what's going on with the clutch. If that pic you posted from the P.O. is what it currently looks like, it's not right. Dopps' pic is how it should look.
No real trick to installing the slave, it's just kinda a pain in the a$$. |
how is this not fixed already?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 912515)
how is this not fixed already?
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Originally Posted by rleete
(Post 912509)
TheDriver, you need to figure out what's going on with the clutch. If that pic you posted from the P.O. is what it currently looks like, it's not right. Dopps' pic is how it should look.
No real trick to installing the slave, it's just kinda a pain in the a$$. The picture of the broken rubber seal is what it currently looks like. The other picture with the top bolt missing and stainless line was pulled from the previous owners thread which I provided a link to |
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