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Old 01-10-2009, 03:59 AM   #1
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So I just got the tranny bolted back up and turned the crankshaft and wheels spin yay! now to the crappy part the shift fork is to close to put the slave back on... and the fork will not move. That's Bad I'm guessing or it just needs lots of effort because of the new PP someone help please. and I thought I wouldnt have any problems Ha
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The piston in the slave will push into the cylinder with barely any force at all. Thats what Ive had to do every time I have changed my clutch/pulled motor+trans/ changed slave cylinder. It will merely force the fluid back into the reservoir.
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I mean the rod wont fit between the cylinder and fork, the fork needs to be farther towards the rear of the car, but I cant push it back>?
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I just want to make sure you understand what I am saying here before I move on. One picture shows the rod all the way out, it needs to be pushed in or it will not be able to be fit on there. Other pic shows how much it needs to be pushed in to fit. If you have already tried this and the fork is still too far forward, then you probably did not install the fork correctly and need to take the transmission off to re adjust it.
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I guess Ill try squishin it more, maybe I f'ed up the fork install but I dont see how?
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I just did mine. You should have plenty of room pushing the rod into the slave. Sure you go tthe arm on right?
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Old 01-14-2009, 04:20 AM   #7
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well here I took some pics to show you guys.. how can I get the top bolt in?
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Man I bolted mine on first then was able to put the rod in. Might have had to push in a little on the slave but dont remember a problem. Wonder if you took the cluth cylinders top off if you could push it into the cylinder? That fork does look to close to the cylinder I think. Ill be crawling under my car later today and will see what mine looks like
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My guess is you put the clutch disk in backwards.
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:16 AM   #10
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open the valve to bleed pressure; this should all you to push the rod in ever so slightly more so you can rotate it and bolt it up...


that or just use a pry bar on the clutch fork...
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Sorry I couldnt get a picture but I have at least a half inch of rod between where the rod enters the cylinder to where the kind of ball on the rod starts. So probably 3/4 inch from where the rod enters the cylinder and the actual fork. Also my fork does not up against the front hole of the bell housing (wonder if you put the disk in backwards if that is what would happen)
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what company made the clutch, pressure plate, and throw out?
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act disc, act pp, and oem tob I put the springs towards the back of the car I could see the springs when I bolted the clutch up, it said on the disc the flywheel side
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That slave is pushed waaayyy in in the pic. That's weird. It's like the PP is sticking out too much. Are you sure you have the TOB attached to the fork correctly? Either way, I'm pretty sure you're gonna have to pull the transmission to see what's amiss.
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That slave is pushed waaayyy in in the pic. That's weird. It's like the PP is sticking out too much. Are you sure you have the TOB attached to the fork correctly? Either way, I'm pretty sure you're gonna have to pull the transmission to see what's amiss.
I think so too. I can tell you from experience its way easier the second time, I guess thats the good news
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The slave is not supposed to be squished like that. I just replaced a miata clutch slave the other day and it was cake. Your picture does not look like cake.

Make sure the throw out bearing clip, on the clutch fork, is around the ball on the trans.

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Everyone Said I had to drop the tranny again so thats what I did tonight took a grueling 3 hours just to disappoint me! The TOB and fork is correct it moves back and forth fine with the tranny unhooked! I can see the disk springs on the clutch so Its not backwards! the only thing that looks differant to me is the fingers on the PP are pointed outwards more than other peoples who post pics of their clutch but that just might be me? I took some pictures for you guys to look at I cant figure out what I did wrong?
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man ... i dont know what is going on here. Is it possible that there is supposed to be shims on the pressure plate that you did not get with the clutch? I could see that making the springs stick out a bit less, thus bringing the fork in. Are you 100% positive the clutch is seated correctly? I wonder if perhaps it would have "snapped" into place had you pumped the clutch a few times (using a prybar on the fork). One time when I did a clutch, it popped loudly the first time I pumped it as everything lined up or something.

just thinking out loud, wish i could be more help

by the way, if you havn't yet, check the other forums to see if this has happened to anyone else: m.net, clubroadster, and google.
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well when I had it back together the fork was to far forward, Meaning the TOB was up against the PP but why and I torqued the PP correctly followed the workshop manual and in a criss cross pattern? This stuff pisses me off lol torqued to 27 ft lbs correct? I was scared that pry the fork to make it fit! would make it fit yes but work I didnt know and everyone was saying I had to do something wrong so now I might just bolt it back up and not torque down the bellhouse bolts and seat the slave first then torque em down? I dunno though why cant stuff be easy?
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that is an excellent idea. if everything is fine in there, then put it back on and then when you put the transmission back on, leave a gap at first so you can get the slave on there and then pump the clutch. If it is still a no go, maybe an adapter plate could be made to move it back a little bit. Square piece of mild with 4 holes.
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