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jrkoupe 05-07-2008 02:37 PM

What yr is best to wreck by driving off a cliff?
 
....thinking of doing a drift car for my son....tia!

Zabac 05-07-2008 02:40 PM

1998

Stein 05-07-2008 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 253284)
1998

LMAO!

Seriously, all are good in their own right, but if you were picking from scratch, general consensus is 94-95. Gets the 1.8L but is OBDI. Not better, just a bit easier to deal with emissions stuff.

levnubhin 05-07-2008 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 253284)
1998

LMAO, You fucker I was thinking the same thing when I read the title. lol.
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Braineack 05-07-2008 02:48 PM

best question would be: which miata is best to drift?
answer: none.



to answer first question. '94. various reasons spelled out in full elsewhere.

jrkoupe 05-07-2008 02:57 PM

drift.....
 
I know it may not be the bes car...but its his choice....and at 16 yo there is no swaying his mind.



I know from tracking Bimmers....obd1 tends to be best for mods.

samnavy 05-07-2008 03:12 PM

Nothing good can come from this thread.

disturbedfan121 05-07-2008 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by jrkoupe (Post 253296)
I know it may not be the bes car...but its his choice....and at 16 yo there is no swaying his mind..

get him a 240 so when he crashes it...cause it will happen....it'll be cheaper to replace and or fix.

does he love drifting so much he leaves skidmarks in his pants?

Vashthestampede 05-07-2008 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 253303)

does he love drifting so much he leaves skidmarks in his pants?

lol :giggle:

Vash-

Braineack 05-07-2008 03:35 PM

reminds me of "Drift: The Sideways Craze" I watched last night. I couldn't stop laughing. Human Interest part of it was a 16yo trying to learn how to drift in his, you guessed it, 240.

UrbanSoot 05-07-2008 03:37 PM

i learned to drift in 240. then, you guessed, i crashed it.

Zabac 05-07-2008 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 253303)
get him a 240 so when he crashes it...cause it will happen....it'll be cheaper to replace and or fix.

does he love drifting so much he leaves skidmarks in his pants?

You know, I couldn't agree more!!!!
A Miata is a terrible thing to waste drifting, there so many more modest ways to have one part with this world.

jrkoupe-are you sure it's not too late to beat some sense into a 16 year old?
Take him to a local auto-x and get him hooked on the proper line, and if that doesn't work, you can beat the crap out of him again, only with an big objet this time.
Good Luck to ya

Braineack 05-07-2008 03:43 PM



show him this.

disturbedfan121 05-07-2008 03:44 PM

i'm actually surprised that you are encouraging him to drift, i mean, its only gonna get his license taken away, or worse. Be a parent, not a friend.

and on a serious drift note, drifitng a miata is harder because of the shorter wheel base.

jrkoupe 05-07-2008 03:45 PM

drift.....
 
wheres the love to a newbie here?.......

I rather he drift an e 30 bimmer...I could build him one for under 3k


.........its gotta be a me yata......

disturbedfan121 05-07-2008 03:49 PM

no love for a newbie who asks dumb questions and posts like he's 15 and not old enough to have a 16yr old son.

roadsterdrift.com is what you're looking for

Stein 05-07-2008 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by jrkoupe (Post 253316)
I rather he drift an e 30 bimmer...I could build him one for under 3k


.........its gotta be a me yata......

Based on what you just said, I assume he is footing the bill for this entire venture. If dad is paying for it, dad's vote for an e30 WINS.

Braineack 05-07-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 253325)
Based on what you just said, I assume he is footing the bill for this entire venture. If dad is paying for it, dad's vote for an e30 WINS.

based on what he said, I assume the son is 4-5 years old.

jrkoupe 05-07-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 253315)
i'm actually surprised that you are encouraging him to drift, i mean, its only gonna get his license taken away, or worse. Be a parent, not a friend.

and on a serious drift note, drifitng a miata is harder because of the shorter wheel base.



wouldn't it be hip to have a car guy as a dad.....and teach your son things w/ maturity and responsibility?....be a parent ..not a friend?......c'mon now be nice. You dont really know me.


I understand the sht wb issue and I agree.......point taken.

Zabac 05-07-2008 03:59 PM

wow, we are a tough crowd...no drifto love here
muahahaha

disturbedfan121 05-07-2008 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by jrkoupe (Post 253334)
wouldn't it be hip to have a car guy as a dad.....and teach your son things w/ maturity and responsibility?....be a parent ..not a friend?......c'mon now be nice. You dont really know me.

it would be cool and if and/or when i have a kid of my own i would kinda want to be the same way, but if he's looking to build a drift car, make him learn about it, you don't have to bother doing research.

With him being 16 and just getting his license maybe he should be concerned about not getting into a normal accident aka rear ending someone. Teach him how to drive and shift, and whatnot before jumping head on into drifting, which is NOT a good idea, probably one of the most $$$ motorsports.

As for the parent and not a friend thing, out your foot down and be like hey you're not doing this etc....

jrkoupe 05-07-2008 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 253323)
no love for a newbie who asks dumb questions and posts like he's 15 and not old enough to have a 16yr old son.

roadsterdrift.com is what you're looking for



......Im sorry if my question appeared "dumb" to you.......I just wanted to know best yr. to turbo......it sounds like you may be the one w/ skidmarks in dark places.

jrkoupe 05-07-2008 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Zabac (Post 253335)
wow, we are a tough crowd...no drifto love here
muahahaha





geez...for sure.
:cool:

Braineack 05-07-2008 04:09 PM

besides. ITBs are better for drifting.

Braineack 05-07-2008 04:10 PM

whoops correction ITRBs

Zabac 05-07-2008 04:14 PM

I thought it was IRTB's? Who cares, both are badass!
Again Jr., save your kid from humiliation, teach his the proper straight line (pun intended). He will get picked on in school and life in general.

Who was it that said, "Drifting a Miata is like doing gay porn and saying you're straight."

Braineack 05-07-2008 04:21 PM

the R stands for Racing.

It's like throwing a GT-R emblem on my car.

miataspeed1point6 05-07-2008 04:22 PM

I love how those drifter guys in that video had full racing suits, but no helmets. I would be more afraid of clipping the grass and rolling over than it catching on fire.

Have you seen that video where the kid is running down a canyon in his Miata "drifting", then slams into the wall? Go with something cheaper, Miatas become very expensive very quickly.

wes65 05-07-2008 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by jrkoupe (Post 253316)
wheres the love to a newbie here?.......

Hahaha you are in the wrong place for that. 99% of newbies get flamed on their first post. It happens every day.

Joe Perez 05-07-2008 04:25 PM

Wait a sec...

You want your son to have an e30.

It sounds to me like you're willing to pay for said e30.

And your son does not wish to have this e30? He'd rather drive the official car of NAMBLA?

Have you ever discussed with your son the confusing feelings that I assume he gets when he looks at the other boys in school?

Stein 05-07-2008 04:27 PM

Nice thread title change. That will get you some love here.

Zabac 05-07-2008 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by miataspeed1point6 (Post 253352)
I love how those drifter guys in that video had full racing suits, but no helmets. I would be more afraid of clipping the grass and rolling over than it catching on fire.

No safety concerns there, the suits are really just because of the sponsors, they have to promote the sale of stickers you know :giggle:

Zabac 05-07-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 253356)
Wait a sec...

You want your son to have an e30.

It sounds to me like you're willing to pay for said e30.

And your son does not wish to have this e30? He'd rather drive the official car of NAMBLA?

Have you ever discussed with your son the confusing feelings that I assume he gets when he looks at the other boys in school?

Joe, your comment is automatically ampliefed in creepines due to puppet master Tom as your avatar LMFAO

hustler 05-07-2008 04:36 PM

we're going to start running out of miatas soon.

m2cupcar 05-07-2008 04:36 PM

I can't imagine jrkoupe hasn't already considered the possibility of crashing. And if he's building the car, I'm sure he's prepared to be fixing it. I'd buy the cheapest NA (90-95) Miata you can find that's a good candidate. Then start shopping for turbo parts.

Stealth97 05-07-2008 04:36 PM

best year to wreck is 06+. it makes them look better.

y8s 05-07-2008 04:48 PM

e30 has more steering angle potential. tighter turning radius than a miata.

Saml01 05-07-2008 04:52 PM

As much as I want to race and auto-x, and I probably will in the future I would not let my 16 year old son do it. At least not until he is passed the age where he still thinks like a child, that he is immune to everything and nothing can go wrong.

I cant tell you how to raise your son, but I would say no if I was in your shoes. Especially because youre footing the bill. He wants to drift tell him to go find a job, learn some responsibilities and pay for it himself or at least tell him you will match whatever he invests, if you cant talk him out of it. Then you will truly see how badly he will wants to do this when he thinks long an hard how quickly and easily his hard earned money will turn into a steaming pile of iron with one mistake.

levnubhin 05-07-2008 05:16 PM

He's 16 and you want to put him in a 2200lb turbo car? How about starting with something a little easier to handle. Not that Miatas are monsters or anything but he should atleast get some experience in driving first. I would never give my car to a 16 year old and my car is no where near the fastest car on here.
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UrbanSoot 05-07-2008 05:29 PM

let him build a nice drift miata. when his son smashes it into a wall, it will be parted out. get my point?

Savington 05-07-2008 05:31 PM

Best thread title change ever.

Stein 05-07-2008 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 253410)
let him build a nice drift miata. when his son smashes it into a wall, it will be parted out. get my point?

Even better than samnavy's 1.5 year from now dibs!

Dibs on the manifold, turbo and DP! The IC will most likely be toast.:bowrofl:

UrbanSoot 05-07-2008 06:08 PM

dibs on differential :)

Saml01 05-07-2008 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 253398)
He's 16 and you want to put him in a 2200lb turbo car? How about starting with something a little easier to handle. Not that Miatas are monsters or anything but he should atleast get some experience in driving first. I would never give my car to a 16 year old and my car is no where near the fastest car on here.

Monsters maybe no, but very easy to get over confident in and get in trouble.

Put him in a boat like an old crown vic that was a former police car and have him learn to drive.

BenR 05-07-2008 06:21 PM

I highly reccomend the E30. The miata takes a bit of work to drift well, the E30 is good right out the box if you weld the diff and pull the front sway bar.

bryantaylor 05-07-2008 06:32 PM

i dont hate drifting, its fun as hell. but setting up a car to do just that is retarded.

Fireindc 05-07-2008 07:15 PM

Buy a cheap 1.6l, buy open 1.8 diff weld it, buy cheap(greddy?) turbo kit, buy mspnp9093, roll bar, etc. When he wrecks it i got dibs on ms and rollbar!

Markp 05-07-2008 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by jrkoupe (Post 253280)
....thinking of doing a drift car for my son....tia!

2008... Best model to drift yet!!! Other than that, a 1990 Miata would be best. But the best Miata is preferably a sunkist car or a yellow 1992.

Mark

PS - The 1999 10AE's wreck super well!!!

speedf50 05-07-2008 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 253464)
Monsters maybe no, but very easy to get over confident in and get in trouble.

Put him in a boat like an old crown vic that was a former police car and have him learn to drive.

Why the fuck do you try and deter every 16y/o who wants a miata? And every time you suggest getting a shitty old crown vic. Miatas are great cars to learn how to drive in, and can teach you many aspects of car control which a crown vic would fail to do so.

Are you just angry about having a shit car when you were 16 and want every other 16y/o to have a shit car too? There will always be rich asshole kids with nice cars, but a miata is far from overkill, and a relatively sensible and cheap vehicle to start out in. You can(and likely will) crash anything when you are 16. Plus like Slava pointed out, if he crashes it, more parts for us.

On the drifting tip though, I'd seriously get something easier to slide around, and an E30 would be really cool, but if it must be a miata, then I'd say 1.6 because shit is cheap yo.

UrbanSoot 05-07-2008 07:56 PM

kostya, because 16 year olds tend to drive their miata off the cliff or get tickets for racing in canyons.


sorry, i couldnt resist :)

M-Tuned 05-07-2008 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 253367)
best year to wreck is 06+. it makes them look better.


HA HA HA.. I agreed.. They are fugly!

Saml01 05-07-2008 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by speedf50 (Post 253501)
Why the fuck do you try and deter every 16y/o who wants a miata? And every time you suggest getting a shitty old crown vic. Miatas are great cars to learn how to drive in, and can teach you many aspects of car control which a crown vic would fail to do so.

Are you just angry about having a shit car when you were 16 and want every other 16y/o to have a shit car too? There will always be rich asshole kids with nice cars, but a miata is far from overkill, and a relatively sensible and cheap vehicle to start out in. You can(and likely will) crash anything when you are 16. Plus like Slava pointed out, if he crashes it, more parts for us.

You speak as though I recommend the same thing all the time and post it constantly

I am merely saying that it would be wise to start on something cheap and safe while you learn to drive. Its better that way for everyone. It prevents you from getting over confident and driving outside your abilities. It teaches the driver respect for what he has and he can graduate onto bigger things.

If people have the money its their prerogative, I am not telling anyone how to spend it. I am, however, making a suggestion that could yield positive results.

I for one didn't have a car at 16. I started driving at the age of 18, and it was my mothers 92 Marquis. I then moved onto a 99 Altima which I still have, and now the Miata.

Now. If you are one of these rich asshole kids, then stop getting so fucking defensive.

UrbanSoot 05-07-2008 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 253532)
I for one didn't have a car at 16. I started driving at the age of 18

+1

Doppelgänger 05-07-2008 09:01 PM

any 90-93...bauce the 1.6 isn't worth a crap. I don't mind seeing 1.6 cars go bye-bye...... 1.8 cars are nicer cars so please don't destroy one. Oh and make sure the car has leather.



hehe

240_to_miata 05-07-2008 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 253303)
get him a 240 so when he crashes it...cause it will happen....it'll be cheaper to replace and or fix.

So truthfull.... i speek from experience

3 experiences to be exact

Atlanta93LE 05-07-2008 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 253548)
the 1.6 isn't worth a crap. I don't mind seeing 1.6 cars go bye-bye......

:cry:

Doppelgänger 05-07-2008 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Atlanta93LE (Post 253562)
:cry:



you fuckers know im kidding!!!:fawk:

levnubhin 05-07-2008 09:49 PM

All the 1.6's can go bye bye straight to my house.
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Vashthestampede 05-07-2008 10:04 PM

You should have him give this a try first. :rofl:

NOTE: This kid is kinda lucky he didn't dump it at all. I can imagine coming off at a really bad time head first!



Vash-

speedf50 05-07-2008 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 253532)
You speak as though I recommend the same thing all the time and post it constantly

I am merely saying that it would be wise to start on something cheap and safe while you learn to drive. Its better that way for everyone. It prevents you from getting over confident and driving outside your abilities. It teaches the driver respect for what he has and he can graduate onto bigger things.

If people have the money its their prerogative, I am not telling anyone how to spend it. I am, however, making a suggestion that could yield positive results.

I for one didn't have a car at 16. I started driving at the age of 18, and it was my mothers 92 Marquis. I then moved onto a 99 Altima which I still have, and now the Miata.

Now. If you are one of these rich asshole kids, then stop getting so fucking defensive.

I apologize if I came off all defensive, but back in the day when I was on m.net and hadn't found the light of MT, you told me the EXACT same thing so it just seemed like a deja vu. I still think that if you pay for the car yourself then you should get what you want. All I was really trying to say is that you kind of portray the miata as some kind of fire-breather/widow maker which from my experience it isn't. Again, any 16 year old will find a way to drive a car dangerously, no matter what it may be.

And Slava, c'mon, I had stock suspension up front and crazy tein 330 springs in the rear. That was more like an accident waiting to happen, spurred on by a mid corner bump. But the fact that I left that without a scratch says something about the miata's safety, along with my amazing luck.

Also, who was it running canyons with a bunch of crazy Russians a few months ago?


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