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FowlerMotorsports 02-07-2013 09:52 PM

whats it worth?
 
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2000 purple nb, 125k miles. Hardtop, 6 speed. "Replaced coil pack, crank sensor, driveshaft?" It's fairly clean, much cleaner than mine.

Doesn't come with bbs wheels

Cons:
Hail damage
Salvage title

Miater 02-08-2013 12:37 AM

5200.

mr_hyde 02-08-2013 03:11 AM

The 2000 SE is probably my favorite miata color ever. The salvage title (from the hail?) kills the value though. Assuming the rest is in good shape and it comes with the hard top, I would say $4,500 is reasonable. Same exact car with a clean title would be $6,500 with the HT. JMHO. :party:

thirdgen 02-08-2013 08:31 AM

That is my favorite Miata color. Isn't is "black cherry mica"?

RedCarmel 02-08-2013 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 976676)
That is my favorite Miata color. Isn't is "black cherry mica"?

Sure sounds better than "purple".

darkcambria 02-08-2013 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 976676)
That is my favorite Miata color. Isn't is "black cherry mica"?

I believe it's Mahogany Mica. Black Cherry Mica was the speed6 color.

FowlerMotorsports 02-08-2013 09:16 AM

I didn't know the color so I said purple lol

It just bothers me since it's salvaged but idc because racecar!

jamesr242 02-08-2013 10:23 AM

I agree with the $4500. I was going to say lower because of the salvage title and highish miles, but it does have a hard top and it doesn't look so bad. The salvage title was from the hail, right? It would be like getting one with no hardtop for $3500 which is a decent deal for a 2000 Special Edition even with a salvage title.

turbofan 02-08-2013 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports (Post 976571)
2000 purple nb, 125k miles. Hardtop, 6 speed. "Replaced coil pack, crank sensor, driveshaft?" It's fairly clean, much cleaner than mine.

Doesn't come with bbs wheels

Cons:
Hail damage
Salvage title

So, the front end has also been converted to the '01+ bumper and headlights?

Where all is the hail damage? Is the hardtop screwed or just the hood and trunk?

Bonus that it doesn't come with homo stanced +0 wheels.

What sort of suspension is under it?

If it's decent suspension but needs hood and trunklid, and some PDR on fenders... I think $4500 with hardtop is decent. DECENT.

thenuge26 02-08-2013 10:58 AM

Judging by the wheels and ride height, it's not a decent suspension.

hornetball 02-08-2013 11:02 AM

Offer $3K due to salvage title.

mr_hyde 02-08-2013 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports (Post 976688)
I didn't know the color so I said purple lol

It just bothers me since it's salvaged but idc because racecar!

Be careful using an SE with mica paint as a race car. Race cars sometimes need new fenders and rattle can body work which isn't real easy on a limited edition.

concealer404 02-08-2013 01:58 PM

I'd pay $4500 for it.

Enginerd 02-08-2013 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 976735)
Offer $3K due to salvage title.

That's what I'm thinking. I was going to say: damn some of you guys are generous. A slammed 2000 SE with hardtop, but salvage title, hail damage and 125k miles is worth $4500? I don't know what stands out more, the previously peppered exterior or recently slammed and smashed underbody.

concealer404 02-08-2013 04:11 PM

I don't think it's low enough to have completely fucked the underbody.

I'm sure it handles like a drunk dog trying to chase his own testicles, but i doubt the underside is fucked.

hornetball 02-08-2013 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 976891)
handles like a drunk dog trying to chase his own testicles

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

I didn't know we could say testicle in a Miata forum.

FowlerMotorsports 02-08-2013 07:06 PM

It has quite a bit of hail damage on the hood and trunk, the top is fine.

Our current agreement is $3000 but i'm going lower. The previous owner, whose car I currently own, offered it to me for $2500 but I didn't have the cash at the time. He traded straight across for another NA which I also like. I'm trying to spend around $2700 for the car with a salvaged title. It will be my DD and my current NA will be the pig or ill just part it out. I love the color and when it's cleaned up it shines! Damn salvage and hail are my only problems with the car. I'll have more pics soon but want to buy it within the next 2 weeks

FowlerMotorsports 02-08-2013 07:11 PM

I'll sell the hardtop and buy myself a fastback. Sell the motor and put in my all forged 99 being built as we speak, then I may have $1500 in the car.

What rear end comes in this car? It has the 6 speed already and a miataroadster short shift. But it has race lands coilovers, bleh! That definitely will be changed out.

DaveC 02-09-2013 08:40 AM

Can hail really do enough damage to make a car a total write-off? We don't get hail like that here, but if you say it happens...

neogenesis2004 02-09-2013 08:49 AM

My understanding is that a paintless dent removal pro can make just about any hail damaged car look brand spanking new again for a very reasonable price. I've seen evidence of this multiple times in pics and IRL.

turbofan 02-09-2013 10:13 AM

2700 for that car is a freaking steal. Buy. Now.

If it was a factory 6-speed, I believe it should be a 3.9 torsen.

FowlerMotorsports 02-09-2013 11:11 AM

I can either buy this, or spend the money to upgrade my car. 6 speed, fastback, fender flares, 949 damper, etc.. I may pickup a 6 speed today

mr_hyde 02-09-2013 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports (Post 976956)
I'll sell the hardtop and buy myself a fastback. Sell the motor and put in my all forged 99 being built as we speak, then I may have $1500 in the car.

What rear end comes in this car? It has the 6 speed already and a miataroadster short shift. But it has race lands coilovers, bleh! That definitely will be changed out.

The rear should be a 3.9 torsen IIRC.

FowlerMotorsports 02-09-2013 06:52 PM

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Pics don't do justice. Sharp looking when looking at a distance but there is quite a bit of damage. Top is fine just the hood and trunk.

Should I wait a few weeks and grab it?

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hornetball 02-09-2013 07:31 PM

I think that would work out well for you for the money you mentioned.

LOL at what some people do to their suspensions.

FowlerMotorsports 02-09-2013 07:33 PM

I mean my car is low, but not that low.

Debating on pulling all my turbo stuff and selling my car cheap to fund more goodies for this car, what do you guys think?

DaveC 02-10-2013 10:12 AM

Which suggests that the salvage title might be due to something else.

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 10:25 AM

I think it's the front end that caused it to be a salvaged.

mr_hyde 02-10-2013 10:25 AM

Hail can total a car very quickly. If the PDR can't get everything perfect, then the insurance needs to account for replacing the hood, trunk and fenders as well as some fill on the quarters plus a full paint job on the entire car to blend everything. That will total a 10+ year old miata pretty quick.

The only reason to stay away from a salvage car is because of resale value. If you are going to just turn it into a track rat and the salvage wasn't because of a significant impact where the frame was pulled too much, go for it. But...

I will stick by my previous comment about an SE paint job on a track car. If we trade a little paint, I'm whacking my red '90 with a hammer and reaching for the rattle can of red. You are trying to find a shop to mix a batch of mica paint for less than a set of tires. If the crunch is more significant, there are 3 red NAs on my local Craigslist being parted out right now. I've never seen a 2000 SE with useful body panels be parted out locally.

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 10:31 AM

It won't be a track car. It will be my daily just turbod after I pull mine off and sell the car.

mr_hyde 02-10-2013 11:42 AM

Ah - sorry for the ASSumption. :loser:

If you don't care about resale value and having the annoying questions and lowball offers when you do go to sell, go for it.

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 11:59 AM

Haha well in your defense I said because racecar.

It's much cleaner than my car and I knew the previous owner and knew it was taken care of. My built 99 engine would be the only thing it's missing! Think I'm going to start pulling some turbo parts and sell my Na. Sad day

mr_hyde 02-10-2013 12:23 PM

Why don't you swap motors - put your built one in the '00 and that one in the NA to sell?

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 12:37 PM

The Na already has a 1.8 and torsen from a 96. My built 99 is in the shop still waiting to go together. So basically I'll just pull my turbo stuff off the Na and sell it. Then my built motor will go into the 00

turbofan 02-10-2013 02:13 PM

This definitely seems like the right way to go to me. Do you prefer the NB? If so, and you can confirm that this car is not jacked up or has never been really jacked up, then by all means, go for it.

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 03:37 PM

I am starting to like the NB better than the NA's now.

I am in the process of disassembling my car to get all my turbo goodies off, questions is, how much is my NA worth?

1993 with 1.8 engine and torsen w/ 4.10 gears.
1.8 built with forged rods, roughly 5k miles on the engine
Lightweight flywheel, ACT clutch
BC Racing coilovers, stock daisies with brand new rubber

Interior is basically stock, MazdaSpeed Miata seats, hardtop, pretty plain car

hornetball 02-10-2013 03:42 PM

I suspect you might get more if you part it. The Torsen is worth good money and so is the new, built engine. Just something to think about.

I'm guessing you no longer have the original drivetrain?

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 04:12 PM

It had this drivetrain when I bought it. I figured I could get more if I parted but don't want to hassle with that right now.

mr_hyde 02-10-2013 10:33 PM

At least sell the HT separately.

FowlerMotorsports 02-10-2013 11:29 PM

I am making my part out list right now. So much crap to list lol I will be playing the waiting game, then taking the shell to the crusher most likely

mr_hyde 02-11-2013 12:46 AM

If the chassis is sound, you can sell the tub to a spec guy for $100. No Miata needs to die in the propagation of this project. :party:

FowlerMotorsports 02-11-2013 07:45 PM

Few questions on prices for my current car

How much for my engine with all accessories? 96 1.8L Motor has forged rods, new oil pump, water pump, gates blue T-belt, new valve seals w/ valve job, everything was worked over pretty good. Maybe 5k miles, just did a compression test and pumping 170+psi in all 4 cylinders

NA 5 speed transmission. checked and rebuilt what was needed, 5th gear syncro, other odd end bearings and clips. no grinds and shifts smooth.

Those are my 2 main questions, everything else I can come up with prices I just need to know drivetrain wise

Mobius 02-13-2013 09:37 PM

I like the 2000SE with the NB2 bumper and headlights. Definitely go that route.

FowlerMotorsports 02-13-2013 09:42 PM

Car sold for a ridiculous price, far more than what I would have paid.

I am parting my car and waiting for a good deal on a NB!

hornetball 02-14-2013 09:12 AM

Bummer man!

turbofan 02-14-2013 09:54 AM

Bummer indeed. Good luck.

miata321 02-18-2013 05:40 PM

good luck

turbofan 02-18-2013 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by miata321 (Post 980321)
good luck

Ban:fael:

FowlerMotorsports 02-18-2013 06:12 PM

Boostin that post count son

turbofan 02-18-2013 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by FowlerMotorsports (Post 980332)
Boostin that post count son

You must do something to improve the situation of the second line of your signature.

Read: get your booztz back.

hornetball 02-18-2013 06:28 PM

Yeah, might have to lend Justin my car a couple of times a week so he can get a fix. Sad to be down to an old truck. But, at least his truck can bring me my (new to me) Torsen!

FowlerMotorsports 02-18-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 980335)
You must do something to improve the situation of the second line of your signature.

Read: get your booztz back.

Having no boost drives me insane, literally I have the worst road rage now. Before I would zip on by traffic, now I bog and put put around town. Having that boost spoiled me, I need a new car, like NOW! I will be looking for a NB this weekend, hell, I could buy a MSM but I just built a forged 99 engine and don't want to mess with VVT :vash:


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 980344)
Yeah, might have to lend Justin my car a couple of times a week so he can get a fix. Sad to be down to an old truck. But, at least his truck can bring me my (new to me) Torsen!

Rick, I may take you up on that offer. I apologize for the delays in delivering your torsen, but I have a good excuse!!! For once :jerkit:

Sad news is the car is gone to its new owner. I am sad to see it go... lets be honest, no im not. I still have a lot of parts left for it, maybe I can get that guy to buy them for a good deal? We'll see.

I had fun with this car but it's time for a nicer car that I can take pride in. So I am on the hunt this weekend for my next daily.

Here are the remains of what use to be my car. I got a pretty good deal on the car so I let it and all the suspension stuff go for a decent price, and whatever else I could throw in to get out of my hair. I solute you lil miata, we had some good times :makeout:

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hornetball 02-18-2013 09:24 PM

Makes me sad.

I see that your custom roll bar/door bars went with it. Were they welded in?

FowlerMotorsports 02-18-2013 09:31 PM

Yes, to much of a hassle to take out!

Rick, are you available tomorrow after work? If so, give me a time frame and I will run that torsen by your house! I will be out in that area anyways, knock out 2 birds with 1 stone!

hornetball 02-18-2013 09:45 PM

Should be. Working from home tomorrow.

FowlerMotorsports 02-18-2013 09:46 PM

Perfect, I will load it up tomorrow morning!

FowlerMotorsports 02-20-2013 05:54 PM

1999 Mazda MX-5 Miata 2dr Conv 6 speed Manual

What would you pay, cash in hands for this car?

hornetball 02-20-2013 06:45 PM

Oooohhhh! Clean, low-mileage 10AE. Nice.

I don't know anything about NB values, I'm just checking out what you're doing.

Add says "Vehicle comes with a 1.8L four cylinder engine with 140 horsepower." :giggle: I'll bet you have other plans.

FowlerMotorsports 02-20-2013 06:52 PM

This has sold, unfortunately! It sparked my interest so I called and they said it has gone :vash:

Just looking for a good base price I should expect to pay, I am hoping between $6,300 and $7000 for a nice SE/10AE so I can get a torsen and 6 speed. I'd love to find a white NB, that way I can be cool like Vlad and Bryan! :makeout:

turbofan 02-20-2013 09:24 PM

Aww man I missed the "cool" list! Must be cuz I took the lame way out and bought my car already built :-P


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