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Old 07-09-2008, 05:52 PM   #1
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:55 PM   #2
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Uh?? Are you ******* serious??
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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Offcourse he is not serious! He can't be, he has over 50 posts, he would have been banned by now if he was that dumb. Have some pride in our mods, they do not let them slip by just like that.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:01 PM   #4
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If it's a joke, it's a bad joke.
If you're serious, then you're too stupid to post here.

Either way, I vote temporary ban.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:05 PM   #5
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I'm wondering if his screen name is inspired by the "chronicles of riddick". How does Vin get acting gigs? Seriously.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:26 PM   #6
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dude it says right on it that it isn't for use with turbo engines.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:44 PM   #7
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dude it says right on it that it isn't for use with turbo engines.
Man I wanted that too.

That with MS could give extreme BANG for the buck.

Or better yet, I wounder if you could use 2 or 3 like PC pro!

It would probably have the same bang for the out come.

We need a little riding a motor that explodes.
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:52 PM   #8
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<--- waiting for the "how can I tune my MS around my fuel saver chip mod" thread.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:12 PM   #9
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I don't see him banned yet. What's the holdup?
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dude it says right on it that it isn't for use with turbo engines.
Damn, well I guess I'll cancel the group buy I contacted them about...
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I don't see him banned yet. What's the holdup?

Mods at dinner?
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #12
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Don't link this over at .net or they will try and do a group buy on it.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:56 PM   #13
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Has to be a joke.
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It's probably a profitable poly/scam. For $6.95, no one stupid enough to buy it will bother trying to get a refund. Not enough $ for the hassle. I bet he gets a few bites when you consider all of the other cars that it is "certified" for. If he does get a complaint, refund the cash to keep it legit and have the customer throw away $.10 worth of resitors or whatever it is. Even then, he probably just refunds the $6.95 (not the shipping) and still makes $2.58 per sale if he sends it for $.42 or whatever a stamp costs.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:51 PM   #15
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"smoother shifting"

ROFL!!!
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:30 PM   #16
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Keeping the banstick in check for the moment, just on the off chance that the OP is trying to make a joke.

What perplexes me is the feedback received by the seller. Sure, there are a few negatives that expose him as a fraud, but the vast majority of the feedbacks are positive. The couple that I reviewed are from users who all have a past history and have been around for a while, so the seller didn't just create a bunch of fake users to buy his own auctions and leave himself feedback.

In the past, sellers tended to exact revenge upon buyers who left them negative feedback, however eBay changed the feedback rules a while ago so that sellers cannot leave negative feedback for buyers. Obviously this creates some potential problems with deadbeats, but it basically solved the issue of permitting buyers to properly criticize scam artists. It's just shocking how many people have left positive feedback, along with comments which either espouse the benefits of the device, or at the very least compliment the seller on prompt shipping.

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A total of 5,230 positive feedbacks in the last 12 months. Assume that each one of those was from somebody who paid for a device such as this and did not return it or demand a refund, so that is 100 per week sold.

Presently, all 1,799 of the seller's listings are for such a device, all in the $4.00 to $6.49 range, with $3.00 shipping. There appears to be a 4:1 ratio of the $6.49 devices to the $4.00 devices, so let's say each device that sells does so for an average of $5.87.

He's using a 7 day listing, a BuyItNow, and no other eBay premium features. We'll assume he's using TurboLister Free, and that his current count of 1,799 devices is a good per-week average. Assume that the 1,699 devices per week that don't sell are are relisted using the one-time-per-auction free relist. So he's paying for, on average, 950 listings per week.

His listing fee per unit is going to be 40 cents- 35 cents basic insertion, plus 5 cents BuyItNow. So with all the above assumptions, that's $380 per week, or $19,760 per year in listing fees.

So, we've assumed that he's actually selling 100 devices per week. One first-class stamp is 43 cents, and we'll assume that his cost on the actual parts, the envelope, the printed matter, etc., is 32 cents, which makes his total cost a convenient 75 cents per unit. An item sold via BuyItNow in the price range we're looking at will incur a Final Value Fee of $1. Since he's a Power Seller, we'll assume the maximum 20% deduction of Final Value fees, and figure them at 80 cents per item. So, for every item sold, we have a $5.87+$3.00 = $8.87 collection, less 75 cents in costs and 80 cents Final Value fee, for a net of $7.32 per item. PayPal takes 2.9% plus 30 cents per transaction, so we're at a total net of $35,152 per year.

Deduct his listing fees, and you've got an income of $15,392 per year. I assume he's a US citizen and paying federal income tax, and if that's his sole source of income then he's into Uncle Sam for $1,918, so he's clearing $14,014 per year.

Is it worth it? Guess it depends on how he values his time. If this is some kid in high school who owns a good label printer and has lots of free time on his hands, then I guess it's a pretty good racket. Beats minimum wage, I suppose... Barely.




[edit]: Oops, I forgot to account for the Final Value fees. I've corrected the above calculations to reflect this.

[edit #2]: PayPal fees. 2.9% plus 30 cents per transaction. At this point, only an idiot would do this...

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Still alot of work.

Goes to show theres easy money to be made off ebay morons.
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I wonder if I could pay some undergrad $1 or $2 per unit to handle the actual putting of the parts into an envelope and taking them to the Post Office part...

Go one step further and offer a $6.95 guaranteed 5-20 HP gain for 90-97Miatas. NO SHIPPING!!!

When you get paid, email him "step-by-step", "detailed" instructions on how to advance his timing to 16*

It's a true, documented gain, and while 20 hp is obviously not going to happen, the "5 - 20 HP" range covers it.

No cost, no shipping, nothing. While the amount of buyers may be lower, you might just cover a set of wheels or a new turbo every few months.

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The only person I know that purchased one of these (a bona fide moron, it wasn't on a lark) received a resistor to wire into his MAF sensor wire.
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what amazes me about this place is how the users are even harsher than the moderators.
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