Oil Lines/ Water Lines
 

I am putting together a kit for oil and or water lines for the miata. This will include a stainless feed line, and a few options on the drain line.
The water lines will be stainless hard lines with hose to go to the thermostat nipples. I am still getting this together, but any input is would be taken. Hopefully I can get a batch of these made and be able to cut some cost for everyone. If you are interested, please let me know.
-Michael-

Count me in!
As soon you have a kit ready, please pm me. (please T25)

Are you going to be bending the tubing for people or just sending them the stuff to shape it themselves. I just bought two 1' pieces of 3/8" tubing and had the guy roll one end so I could bend and cut it myself for my setup. It was $5 a piece. Think that would be the best way for you to go. I'm just going to use tube nuts/sleeves that were $1 a piece to attach it to the turbo.
When I bought the stuff he was trying to sell me a 3 piece fitting that required a 37* flare which is obviously not your standard 1 or 2 way flare tool that you get anywhere. About how much do you think your kit will run out of curiousity. I think what killed me most when pieceing mine together was the $9.80 required shipping fee that the seller charged for UPS.

The tubing will be bent but i guess if there is a circumstance that they want to bend it themself, that would be fine. I can't be for sure the total cost. I'm hoping to stay competitive with some of the other general kits. It may be a bit more, but it will be using the best stuff and will be a direct fit for the miata, which I think should be worth it.
Jhoexp, What all are you interested in and I will put you on the list.
Thanks
-Michael-

Awesome sounds like a plan. If you want I can take some detailed pictures of the miata when I get home in january for the T25 with HKS manifold for all those running that setup. My water lines will be setup so that the engine side coolant line will bend towards the front of the car and the master cylinder the other side of the turbo will have the line bent down and more towards the motor out of sight.

- SR20DET T25 on HKS manifold. 1.8 '99.

I think that the kit should be made of:

- 4an stainless feed from sandwich (maybe 40");
- 10an stainless drain to oil pan
- all the fittings
- Hardlines for the cooland
- 0,60 Restrictor
- Drill and tap bit for the oil pan

(I have already collected the sandwich, the soft coolant lines and some of the fittings to experiment with them... but I still need all the lines, restrictor..etc...)

if you can come up with a kit to plumb a t25 style turbo, water and oil, , specifically for the miata, i'll be the first in line! or attempt to be first in line :gtfo:

yeah, im in on the dsm side, id love to have a bolt on kit, better have it ready in the next month though, i plan to have my turbo in by then.

For future knowledge for parts the SR20 T25 oil feed is 7/16" inv flare.

Well, originally I was going to model this for T3 setups, but if you want T25 setups, that is what we will do. I might need a smidge of help from some of you for the thread sizes to get it to all work properly. I hadn't really planned on including the drill and tap, but if that is something that you want, I guess I could add it to the list as an option.
So, at this point we have
Jhoexp- (T25) wants oil and water with the bit and tap
Flippy02- (T25) wants oil and water
adbradley- (?) wants oil and water
I will be starting to put these together come monday and will keep you all informed on how its going.
-Michael-

From what I have read, the T25/T28 use a 1/4" inverted flare for the oil feed, and require a flange for the oil drain. What size are your water ports on the turbo? I have seen several things that lead me to believe they are metric, but I can't be sure as I always have dealt with T3 turbos. Let me know.
-Michael-

The sr20det T25g is different from other t25...
Cjernigan is right!

You should copy the kit at turbo-supply.com, but with the t25 drain flange and stainless steel drain lines...

Please be patient with me, as there are so many variations between different turbos that it is beginning to get a bit hectic. I should have more information tomorrow when i call my supplier. Keep updating if you know any thread sizes for oil feed and or the water ports.
I appreciate your help.
-Michael-

yeah, 14b, 16g they use the 12 mm banjo bolts on the water, and the shitty part is the oil feed inlet is differant on the 2 i believe, and the 13g is differant as well.. i will have to get back to ya on that

14b/16g
water banjo bolts
14x1.5mm
oil feed
12x1.5mm

At least that's what fits in my 16g and my 14b

Hi,
I would be interested in a kit for GT28R turbo on 1.8 Miata engine for both oil and water. Braided stainless would be my preference. I would prefer an-3 oil inlet and -10 drain. Also I assume restrictor is needed with this turbo.

Waterlines would be nice if there was metal extension to take the braided hoses further away from the turbo.
Let me know if you need dimensions or other info.

hrk

I will get a picture of my setup on here soon to get an idea of the routing, and such. Today is going to be pretty busy, so hopefully in the next few days I can get you all some more info. Sorry for the delays.
-Michael-

My T25 has 1/4" NPT fittings for the H2O lines (Garrett), But the PO may have re-tapped them?

Ok, thats not a problem. Be sure to remind me when you order so I get the correct fittings for that.
-Michael-

Bandit, Any news?

My feed/drain thing story is unbelievable:

I tried with turbo-supply (darkeclipse or something like that)... He said that has ordered the t25 drain flange, a week later said that the kit I want is ready, I said OK!! Yeah, I want to pay, please ship it ASAP....and than, 4 mails later... no reply! :confused: :vash:

Than I tried TunerToys: they only ship a 37" feed line (I really don't know if it's long enought for my t25 sourced from sandwich) and don't know how long is the drain... and use FedEX or UPS only!( = 100$ for the shipping!!!:vash: )
I dont want to spend 250$ for a feed and a drain line!!:vash:

I tried stealthperformance...took a week to send a mail saying that they can built it for me. (I already told tham ALL the thing they need to know, so I am ready to pay, please do it fast....) ...and then: nothing!! no reply. :vash:

So, please, is there someone that wants my money to build this kit?!! :sadwavey: :sadwavey:
I can't source it here in italy! They don't know even what a 4an line is, and none seems to know that there are other thread than metrics!!!:vash:


Bandit, you are my last hope... :bowdown: :bowdown:

I am working hard on it for you and the rest of the gang. Are you not wanting to get your oil from the port on the exhaust side of the block? I am trying to get the best possible configuration for price, functionality, and appearance. I have sourced all of the fittings except the restrictor which is beginning to be a real pain in this. As for the shipping, I don't know how much I can do as the distance will cost some money. If you can find another shipper that you would prefer over ups, fedex please let me know. Thanks for all your patience everyone.
-Michael-

I have an oil filter sandwich with a free 1/8 " NPT port...anyway if you go with the 1/8 bsp to 1/8 ntp adapter from the oil pressure sender port, it's pratically the same :bigtu:

USPS will be ok.
Thanks!

I think the oil pressure port will work a lil better, that's what I have been going off of for the other kits. Looks like it is going to be the first of Jan. before I can get the required fittings for the kits. The supplier is taking the next week off for Christmas, and can't order anything til they get back. Again sry for the delays.
Merry Christmas
-Michael-

News?

I am going to go by the store today and get as many fittings as I can. I think they just got back open today (hopefully). I am going to get jhoexp's order first.
-Michael-

I have 95% of the fittings for jhoexp's car. I'm still working on the some of the metric stuff for adbradley. As soon as I get jhoexp's stuff I will get started on the next person. I just can't put a ton of money into stock as I don't have the money and time at this point. Just trying to help expand the community and such.
-Michael-

Michael, If you need the money or a down payment or somethin on my stuff let me know, i can pay-pal it on over.

Im using the bell manifold with a sr20det t25 turbo....I need the oil lines and water lines for my 1.8. the -4 for oil feed , oil drain -6, water inlets are both -6

4AN = 6.350mm, some setups only use 3AN (4.763mm). So any brake line from 5-6mm will work.
For the return line you could use 15-19mm hydraulic line (Find a shop that works on tractors--they'll probably give you the 2 feet you need for free), w/ a small piece of piece to pipe keep the heat from the turbo.

I used to order from tuner toys but was also frustrated Craigs new shipping costs, went with JGStools instead...

I'll be using a SR20 T25 on a 1.6...what would I need, just oil in and drain right?

Jefe, the problems are not the single line (even if the stainless braided lines largely available here are only brake type: <4mm ID and teflon inner tube... are they ok for a 120 °C oil flow all the time?) but all the fittings, and even the drill and tap bit.
Anything non metric is pratically unknow here...

Anyway, Michael the bandit is working for me now, and I am sure my oil feed/drain/water kit will be completed soon!
:bigtu:

miatamania
You will likely need the same thing that Jhoexp is going to get. The water ports should be 14x1.5 and the oil feed is a 7/16 Inverted flare, and you will need a flange for the return line. Just let me know if you would also like a kit. I am doing my best to get these done and get ready for school, and put my motor back in. I appreciate everyone's patience.
-Michael-

Take your time bandit, just not too long lmfao jp:bigtu: , he when you get a chance could you ring me up a price quote for my order.

thanks again:bigtu:

Sure thing, I am working on a spreadsheet for all the parts and prices. I will get your quote very soon. What do you all think a good price for the oil and water lines would be? Right now for all stainless steel oil lines I think $150 is pretty fair. If one desires to go for the rubber braided hose, it will be a bit less. Comments? I'm a few days from being done with Jhoexp's order and will start getting everyone else's as soon as I can.
-Michael-

Take your time, your price sounds fair to me, can't wait till you have all the finished products, it'll definetlry help me figure a few things out. lol

150, thats going to be the price for the oil feed and drain line, and the fittings for the block,oil pan,and lines, thats a blow to my Diy prodject lol, from what I understand hydrolic shops charge 7-$20 per foot of ss braided line...fittings can range from 15-20 bucks as well, bah anyways just fly a quote my way and I will find a way to work it.

I got my first two orders down to the payment stage (jhoexp and ricanmiataracer) and they seem to be happy. If anyone else is interested, just let me know.
-Michael-

Here we goooo!! :bigtu:
Finally my super oil/water kit is on the way to italy... (well... I think...Michael, have you shipped it? :ugh2: )

Take a look!

Sry I got back to school late last night and didn't get a chance to email you. Your kit is on its way. I will send you the tracking number after I get back from class.
-Michael-

I know this is retarded...but I thought the standard Garrett/Nissan t25 was just oil cooled? Or am I way off base...? Either way, how long to you plan on producing these? a one time deal or you going to continue to do this stuff?

I really don't know about the T25's. I honestly started this with the T3 platform in mind, but those who were interested had the T25's and GT25. I can make a kit for whatever you like. These will be available on a person to person basis for a while. I am just doing this out of pocket because there isn't really anyone out there that offers this, and if I can help out people where I know I had some problems, I feel like I am helping people out. I have a few of the required parts in stock, ie -4 lines and -8 lines, restrictors and -4 to -4 90*. These will probably be shipped out on the weekends when I get back into town from school. Let me know if you are interested and we can go from there.
Thanks
-Michael-

alright...I'll have to figure out what I need then :).

I'm pretty sure the GT series are both water/oil cooled...the standard t25 might be oil cooled only..? might need to figure this out...thanks, I'll get back to ya.

All the T25 found on nissan (sr20det, ca18det, 300zx) and DSM are oil AND water cooled.

What do you think I have taken the water lines for?:gay:

Lol, thanks..

...for some reason I was thinking you had a GT series...lol I dunno why when it says in your sig.....and it those post. Anybody have pics of the lines/turbo while in the car? just so I can see where they are.

come now....have you been doing your homwork on what you need for your turbo set-up.....honestly before you invest further, do research on a part before you buy So that way you dont haft to go back and spend more money...waste of time and headachs

by the way bandit, my paypal account has been verified And Im going to transfer some funds to paypal and have them out to you mhy friend Im extreamly sorry for the delay.....

Alright so this is still happening correct? Give me another month so I can purchase the turbo and let you know what setup I've got currently I'm using the HKS Manifold.

Just let me know when you want it and what configuration. I'm still up for orders.
-Michael-

I'll be needing a drain kit for a SR20 T25 on a 1.8 with all the taps and everything here in about the next month. Do you think you could shoot me a quote so I know what I'm lookin at?

Can I get a price on the water/oil kit for a GT25r (I actually have a stock MSP turbo, but I think they are the same) on a 94 1.8? I want to use the spare oil port on the block. Thanks. Also, can you give me a list of what all it will come with (i.e. drill bit, tap, fittings, etc...)? Thanks again.

Tony

I will get you either this evening or tomorrow. The basic kit includes the required fittings for the oil and water lines. If you would like I can include the drill and tap for the oil pan. Let me know exactly what you are looking for.
Thanks
-Michael-

I've the 'standard' Greddy kit installed and want to bin the horrible rubber tubing oil return line. What I would need is a stainless braided line to run down to the stump, the connections and also the tapping bit etc.

Also, I have a friend who is missing the 'T' type bolt that bolts the oil feed line to the Turbo housing itself, he can't seem to get it here in Ireland. It's a Greddy kit he bought secondhand and he can't install it until he finds that bolt.

I am not familiar with the GReddy kit, as I have a 1.8L and never messed with it. If you can get me some sizes, lengths and more specific about the T type bolt I will see what I can do for you.
Thanks
-Michael-

id be down for a greddy kit too

Are you going to be doing a 16g kit?

I can do a kit for about anything assuming I know what thread sizes and such I need to get. I am willing to do whatever, but I just don't have the sizes for each specific turbo and application, so I just need a little help our your guys part. If anyone knows about what the GReddy would require let me know.
-Michael-

Hey...I keep bothering you, could you shoot me a pm for a price on everything I'd need to plumb and drain a Garret GT2554r turbo on a 1.6 w/ begi manifold: water & oil

I will send you a PM tomorrow. I think I even have the drain flange you need.
-Michael-

Greddy kit -> 1/2" NPT to -10AN fitting would be used if using stainless steel lines.
How long would the return line have to be ?

I use 1/2NPT to -8AN for the drain. Generally I send 18" of line for the kits.
-Michael-