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Old 01-11-2012, 02:41 AM   #21
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ouch. Im not saying copy Absurdflow, but this is typically the kind of thing us nerds like to see:
http://absurdflow.com/products.html

Do a bit of research on your target demographic: Nerds with gay cars. Read up some threads, check out your competitors, then give us some hard numbers and boner-inducing pictures of finished or almost finished pieces FOR OUR APPLICATION. We know you can weld, I suppose thats a good start.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:03 AM   #22
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What is it would like pictures of.

Also, thanks for the advise and input, this is just a thought that we had, and thought we would share. Our goal, like stated before is to offer a product without stepping on toes. We are not saying our is better than anyone else's. We were gauging interest in the product is all.

So maybe a DIY weld it yourself kit?

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Old 01-11-2012, 06:00 AM   #23
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A DIY ramhorn kit, with just finishing and welding needed, all cut to length and numbered is an interesting idea...

But basically whats being said is that you will have to build one, just one, dyno it, show some good photos and then ask for customers.

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Old 01-11-2012, 08:39 AM   #24
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Build a compact top mount with external gate + full vband for the NC?
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Old 01-11-2012, 10:23 AM   #25
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Basically what Timmah said:
Everyone is happy to see you guys jump into the market, but it doesn't look like you've done your homework (unless this is you doing your homework and getting a "feel" of the market)

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What is it would like pictures of.
An actual product. Finished, fitted, and tested.
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So maybe a DIY weld it yourself kit?
That would be GREAT.
Like the jgs or whatever its called, except not an ugly and terribly flowing log, but something like the ETD shorty. And for the 1.8 this time, since 1.6's are going the way of the dinasour. Same size, same amount of materials, but better design than a log.

I'd post pics of what I mean but they're blocked at work. Perhaps someone will help out with that.
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I would be so down for a DIY top mount ramhorn.
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since 1.6's are going the way of the dinasour.
lol wut?
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lol wut?
They only made 1.6 miatas for 4 years. The youngest are 19 years old this year. So...yeah. It'd be dumb to come out with 1.6 stuff before 1.8 stuff.

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Old 01-11-2012, 03:37 PM   #29
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100% in for top mount ram horn 1,6 mani.....depending on price and tested product!
Some of us less fortunate basterds still have the 1,6's.....
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Ohhh right, there's the overseas guys with the 1.6 too...I forgot about those.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:41 PM   #31
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Now there is a ------- cool idea, DIY manifolds.
In for more thoughts on that
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They only made 1.6 miatas for 4 years. The youngest are 19 years old this year. So...yeah. It'd be dumb to come out with 1.6 stuff before 1.8 stuff.
actually the rest of the world with the exception of the US got the b6 till end of 2001 if I'm correct...which means a tad more than 4 years...but still agree with you on a bigger market for 1,8...
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #33
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Voodoo engineering barble doesn't work at MT.net. Smartest thing so far is:


"yes".

Build it and price it, see if it sells. That's really all you can do, unless you answer all these questions and moar then hope for groupbuy participants.

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Your port work stuffs look very nice. I imagine you will do a good job at the manifold...but pretty insides won't sell by itself. And you may be competing against builders who make killer quality fab'ed manifolds for ridiculously inexpensive prices. For this reason I cannot compete in the budget $700 manifold/downpipe market.
Lets also not forget how many times I asked you on the phone "what are you going to do if it breaks"? This was the reason I came to you in the first place.

Renown guys,
We have a few awesome vendors here who do "no questions asked" warranties on hot parts, they control the market. Many of us are very, very hard on our cars and after 100-hours of seat time my AF setup is still not cracked. We have a couple fabricators we like and one on the way that are/will be fitted to very fast celebrity Miatas which are driven in extreme anger, the type of anger that stems from a life of owning gay cars, so they are tested and trusted. I recommend that if you want some of this action you build a manifold and DP, then get it on a very fast Miata for a few days at the track and see what didn't break.

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Lets also not forget how many times I asked you on the phone "what are you going to do if it breaks"? This was the reason I came to you in the first place.

Renown guys,
We have a few awesome vendors here who do "no questions asked" warranties on hot parts, they control the market. Many of us are very, very hard on our cars and after 100-hours of seat time my AF setup is still not cracked. We have a couple fabricators we like and one on the way that are/will be fitted to very fast celebrity Miatas which are driven in extreme anger, the type of anger that stems from a life of owning gay cars, so they are tested and trusted. I recommend that if you want some of this action you build a manifold and DP, then get it on a very fast Miata for a few days at the track and see what didn't break.

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Yeah, basically what hustle-boo said.

Or offer the diy kit and tackle the market from a different side.
You'll have a whole lot less competition that way too
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Here are some pictures of the Mitsubishi Evo DIY ramhorn bundle we sell.

You will notice one off looking section. We did that to show you how large of a difference it makes when we polish the material for the kit. All sch.10 pipe in the kit come polished like shown. This will aid in giving the material a cleaner and deeper penetration when welded, Also after its been heated it will gave that nice golden finish.

Our kits also only use 3D style flanges that taper out to the diameter of the piping used. This has been proven to show large improvements where it counts. Keeping a better balanced flow while exiting the head.
(note:the flange used in this picture is used for mock up only, please discard the dirtiness)






The Miata 1.8 kits are in the works right now for log manifolds, and will be priced for less than $200! We will also be offering pre cut pipe, that just needs welding. More info on that soon to come.
When we decide to make manifolds for the Miata you can expect us to use the high end quality parts.
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Damn, less than $200? Makes me wish I still had welding connections from when I was a machinist.

What's the plan for downpipes? And is this going to be a log style side mount? I hate top mounts. Guess it could go either way if we're welding it ourselves...
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I'm getting excited. Sounds good so far.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:24 AM   #39
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Took advice, well done, you will go far here.

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The style turbo Flange placement is entirely up to the buyer. Making this a very universal option for anyone turbo and piping setup.
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