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ChrisLol 07-25-2018 10:19 AM

Add Haltech Sub-Forum?
 
Can we get a headcount of the users on Haltech? Maybe convince the mods to add a Haltech sub-forum for support?

Comment on this thread which ECU you have.

In the meantime if you're having any issues, go ahead and PM me. I'd love to help!

Mods, this is not intended to be an advertisement. I would simply like to help anyone I can. Haltech's #1 priority is customer support.

concealer404 07-25-2018 10:25 AM

I had a PS1000 on my MSM, will be using an Elite of some sort on current car. Would like to come down and buy you some beer at some point and pick your brain.

Neddy 07-25-2018 03:45 PM

Given Haltech make PNP solutions for our cars I think it would be cool to be able to get support on forum.

zwoollen 07-25-2018 04:39 PM

Elite 1500 user here. I'd love to see more users and I think a dedicated sub-forum to keep info in one place would help that.

brainzata 07-25-2018 06:00 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...50411fc6b9.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8e19170e79.jpg
Checkin in to the Elite Members only Club :naughty:

themonkeyman 07-25-2018 07:57 PM

For anyone that has used both, can you comment on comparison to Megasquirt? Feel free to PM me, not tryin to threadjack too hard here.

ChrisLol 07-26-2018 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1493232)
I had a PS1000 on my MSM, will be using an Elite of some sort on current car. Would like to come down and buy you some beer at some point and pick your brain.

Make it a road trip with some buds. We love to show off our new office.


Originally Posted by Neddy (Post 1493340)
Given Haltech make PNP solutions for our cars I think it would be cool to be able to get support on forum.

We have PNP support for the OBDI 89-95 NA and 01-05 NB.
We support all BP engines if you're willing to tackle a custom wire-in job. We also support the NC engine and almost any engine swap you might want to throw at these little cars.


Originally Posted by zwoollen (Post 1493357)
Elite 1500 user here. I'd love to see more users and I think a dedicated sub-forum to keep info in one place would help that.

Agreed.


Originally Posted by brainzata (Post 1493375)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8e19170e79.jpg
Checkin in to the Elite Members only Club :naughty:

Poscat for you sir. That is a great mounting location. Airbags? Who needs air bags? We die like real men.

concealer404 07-26-2018 10:18 AM

I'll try to come down in September sometime. :) MATG coming up then i've got a wedding to attend in NY shortly after.

jpreston 07-26-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisLol (Post 1493471)
Make it a road trip with some buds. We love to show off our new office.

Truth. I work 2 buildings down the street and I constantly hear 1000+hp drag cars on the dyno while sitting at my desk. Next time I need to buy a Haltech, I'm going to threaten to call the cops and file a noise complaint if I don't get a discount.

+1 to needing a haltech subforum.

Madjak 07-26-2018 11:50 AM

I run a PS1000 in my car. Upgrading to an Elite is definately on the to do list.

motorphile 07-26-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisLol (Post 1493471)
We have PNP support for the OBDI 89-95 NA and 01-05 NB.

Any chance of PnP support for the 99-00 NBs? I'm genuinely interested as a 99 owner. Mazda made a ton of cars in 1999 alone so the business case seems to be there.

nitrodann 07-26-2018 03:38 PM

I begged recently but they won't do it because of minor wiring changes making it commercially challenging to provide the right parts to the right people every time.

They also feel that there is essentially no market for it.

Dann

ChrisLol 07-26-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by motorphile (Post 1493528)
Any chance of PnP support for the 99-00 NBs? I'm genuinely interested as a 99 owner. Mazda made a ton of cars in 1999 alone so the business case seems to be there.


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1493533)
I begged recently but they won't do it because of minor wiring changes making it commercially challenge you to provide the right parts to the right people every time.

they also feel that there is essentially no market for it.

Dann

We had 99-00 covered in the Platinum series adapters. 96-97 also. The new PnP adapter are slightly more complicated to produce in that they involve an adapter box housing a PCB that is unique to each application. These take extra time to develop or so I'm told. I'm not involved in that aspect. I did push for an successfully prototype the Elite 750 application for the 90-95 though. Someday I'll be motivated to do similar for the 96-97 and 99-00.

If I had a local guinea pig car I could keep for a couple weeks it would aid in that process...

concealer404 07-26-2018 03:56 PM

I can probably supply that if second half of august going into September is ok. I only mess with NB1s because NB1s are best.

brainzata 07-26-2018 10:15 PM

[/QUOTE]Poscat for you sir. That is a great mounting location. Airbags? Who needs air bags? We die like real men.[/QUOTE]

I thought so as well, first I had my gauges there. Realized the OEM harness is super long and just curled up. It passes through and over the trans tunnel pretty easily after taping the connectors together.

gt5759 07-27-2018 11:38 AM

Happy Haltech user here and would appreciate a sub-forum as well!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...08bd1e1b8e.jpg

L337TurboZ 07-31-2018 07:12 AM

I am a Haltech user as well. Running a Platinum 500 ECU. Getting ready to junk it though in favor of a MS3 PNP. The 500 lacks a lot of features but a Haltech specific sub forum would be nice. I have had good results with my basic 500 ECU and would like to be able to help out others as well.

My 500 will be for sale soon too with a Boomslang adapter if anyone is interested.

BBro 07-31-2018 08:49 AM

I think a thread with a summary of all the haltech models and a little comparison would be nice to have.

Something similar to the summary of the megasquirt family we have stickied. Maybe include which one would be the direct competitor to the MS3-Pro.

L337TurboZ 07-31-2018 09:23 AM

The Elite ECUs are comparable to the MS3 systems depending on which tier you get. The Platinum series are getting a little dated. The 500 ecu I run now doesn't have knock control, auto tune, or A/C control. It is universal however. I ran the same ECU on my Starion and when I bought the Miata, I simply added a VTPS and uploaded a basemap which came with the ECU Manager software. I did need to connect the fuel pump wires at the AFM switch to allow the pump to come on as well as run a GM IAT sensor.

Install time was about 30 minutes. I didnt have to remove the fuse that normally is removed for MS systems. When I converted to Toyota COP I needed to run a MSD 8910 tach adapter connected to the IGN- and B+ of the diagnostic box for the tach to work. The tach worked fine with stock coils.

brainzata 07-31-2018 02:35 PM

I think the Haltech Elite Series will prove to be superior to the MS3 as far as build quality and appears to offer more. Haltech USA has also answered the phone every single time immediately, helping me over the phone. Awesome customer service. The Elite software is pretty damn user friendly for a noob like me and you get a huge full wiring diagram, that if you make changes to the ecu, you are able to print a new wiring diagram directly from the ecu itself . As I see it, I found the price difference to be a no brainer between MS3/pro and the Elite 1500. Just look at the ECU case it's self. Water proof, high impact, molded, military grade looking. Then look at a MS3pro, and it houses the same type of multi piece not weather proof aluminum box, like a DIY MS. Not very impressive IMO.

18psi 07-31-2018 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by brainzata (Post 1494269)
I think the Haltech Elite Series will prove to be superior to the MS3 as far as build quality and appears to offer more. Haltech USA has also answered the phone every single time immediately, helping me over the phone. Awesome customer service. The Elite software is pretty damn user friendly for a noob like me and you get a huge full wiring diagram, that if you make changes to the ecu, you are able to print a new wiring diagram directly from the ecu itself . As I see it, I found the price difference to be a no brainer between MS3/pro and the Elite 1500. Just look at the ECU case it's self. Water proof, high impact, molded, military grade looking. Then look at a MS3pro, and it houses the same type of multi piece not weather proof aluminum box, like a DIY MS. Not very impressive IMO.

You’re confusing the mspro with mspnp and making some really silly uneducated observations. I wouldn't nit-pick this if they weren't so silly and downright wrong. I’ve nothing against haltech but let’s not get carried away with silly meaningless observations if comparing the two, esp considering your crapping on a known product from a vendor here vs a very unknown product (here in this community) from a non vendor. Not gonna let that fly. Wanna compare? Actually put together factual observations. Like which one has better UI, which has more community support, which one will ultimately help the end user more, which is more pnp, etc. Compare inputs/outputs/processing power, features/options/etc. And even then this is not the thread for that discussion.

If this turns into a vendor bashing crap-fest I'm gonna shut it down real quick.


Originally Posted by ChrisLol (Post 1493230)

Mods, this is not intended to be an advertisement. I would simply like to help anyone I can. Haltech's #1 priority is customer support.

So prove it by becoming a vendor? Words are cool, but actions are so much more effective. Help SUPPORT this forum

brainzata 07-31-2018 06:11 PM

I am in no way intending to bash on MS and am fairly familiar with it's success and community support. I was just stating why I chose to go with the Haltech Elite. Not looking for a debate, or technical battle. I was not confusing MS3pro with anything, and had just looked over pictures and specs quickly before typing, not my first look either. It's obvious MS would have more support, I would expect everyone would know that as it has been in the community for a long time. To me, that is not a top priority as I'd expect the cost to reflect some things in the hardware and would not feel the need to make my decision on that. As I said I have had nothing but prompt, and helpful responses from Haltech. Btw, my Elite is completely PNP on my MSM in stock form, with minimal changes due to upgrades/mods. Their products are all very pnp with each other. Another reason I chose. Again, I don't, have anything negative to say about MS and can't from experience. Just my opinion based off years of observing the products and experiences, and comparing my notes to another product. I am just feeding into the desired Haltech Subforumn, not hating on MS.

Arca_ex 07-31-2018 07:07 PM

I think it would be more appropriate to rename the Adaptronic forum to Haltech/Adaptronic seeing as they were just acquired by Haltech.

ChrisLol 08-01-2018 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1494270)
I’ve nothing against haltech

Why does it not feel like that? Every post you've made regarding Haltech makes me feel very much the contrary. Paging Concealer.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1494270)
So prove it by becoming a vendor? Words are cool, but actions are so much more effective. Help SUPPORT this forum

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...681290aba7.gif
;) I'm doing my part to give back to this wonderful community that has helped me with so many aspects of my personal build. I've even made posts in the other sub-forums offering help when I can, but only when my actual experience covers the answer. Funny way to try and sell a vendor spot when the forum's most vocal moderator is hostile towards anything non-MS. This is my attempt to kill that hostility with kindness, by offering support I am not paid or otherwise obligated to offer. I did not realize that all of the sub-forums actually paid to be sub-forums but I will submit information to IB right now to see what this will take monetarily. "Money makes the word go'round"


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1494322)
I think it would be more appropriate to rename the Adaptronic forum to Haltech/Adaptronic seeing as they were just acquired by Haltech.

For the foreseeable future these will remain separate brands using different software and different hardware. It'd be a bit confusing to combine them. MSPro and MSPNP are separate sub-forums for this reason I'm sure.

aidandj 08-01-2018 03:10 PM

Vlad is just bummed because his monthly moderating paycheck takes a hit when vendors don't pay their dues :D

18psi 08-01-2018 05:06 PM

:laugh: yup. :likecat:

brainzata 09-03-2018 07:43 PM

We need moar Haltech users to speak up! Can't hurt to have a little more info available :bigtu:

Socals14 07-31-2020 01:01 PM

Hi, I am considering a Elite 1500 and I was curious if anyone who is running one could help answer a few questions? I have FM Voodoo I kit on a fully built (BP4W head, all forged, balanced, etc.) '94 Miata. I have a local tuner who is comfortable with Haltech. Right now, I am getting ready to ditch the Voodoo box and install some FF640s, DW200, and Mac BC valve. My questions are generally centered on two things:

1. Trigger support for the CAS; I have a yoshifab wheel for a 1.6 optical CAS, but I am considering a trigger wheel for my ATI using a 99 crank sensor. Thoughts on using the CAS alone versus adding the crank trigger?

2. Wiring in the IAT and Mac valve...can I do this the same way as you would MS, i.e. through the MAF harness?

Thanks.

L337TurboZ 07-31-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1577634)
Hi, I am considering a Elite 1500 and I was curious if anyone who is running one could help answer a few questions? I have FM Voodoo I kit on a fully built (BP4W head, all forged, balanced, etc.) '94 Miata. I have a local tuner who is comfortable with Haltech. Right now, I am getting ready to ditch the Voodoo box and install some FF640s, DW200, and Mac BC valve. My questions are generally centered on two things:

1. Trigger support for the CAS; I have a yoshifab wheel for a 1.6 optical CAS, but I am considering a trigger wheel for my ATI using a 99 crank sensor. Thoughts on using the CAS alone versus adding the crank trigger?

2. Wiring in the IAT and Mac valve...can I do this the same way as you would MS, i.e. through the MAF harness?

Thanks.

I used the MAF wires for my IAT and Boost solenoid. I am not familiar with the Elite series but if they have an expansion connector or separate I/O already built into a PNP ECU then I dont think it would be an issue.

As for trigger support I think that depends on the base map you select. You can probably change to either one as there are trigger settings in the software but whatever base map you select it as is probably preconfigured to the style sensors that would be for that year range. You can always download the base map files from Haltechs website and compare their settings. If you're going to run a different optical disc inside the CAS you'd have to modify the settings for that sensor anyways.

Socals14 07-31-2020 02:03 PM

Thanks. I bought a MAF extension harness to do just that...easy plug and play that way. Would be really helpful to know what trigger setups others are using with an Elite 1500 on a NA. Shoot, any Elite would be helpful. Not sure they differ in terms of trigger support.

msmola2002 07-31-2020 04:08 PM

I am at work, but if you download the ESP software it has a description next to each one in the dropdown

The Australian 07-31-2020 06:17 PM

PS1000 in NB2
Elite 1500 going into NB2

skylinecalvin 07-31-2020 09:59 PM

It looks like you'll have to wire the IAT into the aux connector.
https://www.haltech.com/product/ht-1...miata-mx-5-na/

Click link above and then download the haltech's quick start guide. Check out page 5 and 6

Socals14 07-31-2020 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by skylinecalvin (Post 1577668)
It looks like you'll have to wire the IAT into the aux connector.
https://www.haltech.com/product/ht-1...miata-mx-5-na/

Click link above and then download the haltech's quick start guide. Check out page 5 and 6

Yea, I hit up their FB page and got several responses. Because their NA PnP harness does not use the MAF, it is not a PnP affair with the IAT and boost solenoid. You would have to shuffle some pins around to make it work. So, it's easier to wire both directly to the ECU. Which really isn't that bad.

In terms of the trigger, I was a bit more delighted. The PnP harness and basemap will handle the CAS out of the box, including the Yoshifab wheel, or so I was told. I imagine I could wire in the 99 crank trigger using a CAS patch harness and be good to go. So, lots of options there.

Nevertheless, I am still interested in anyone's experience with setting up their triggers on the Elite. Will be lookimg to purchase mine next week.

Socals14 09-14-2020 11:16 PM

So I got the Haltech installed with the PnP harness. Couple of things I learned:

1. You can wire the IAT only into the MAF plug.
2. The PnP is great, but you have to modify it to take advantage of all the available inputs and outputs. I made a secondary auxillary plug. Boost solenoid, knock sensor, WB, and external MAP all go to this connector.

If I were to do it again, I would have got their standard harness and wired it myself into one half of a patch harness or female ECU connectors.

Other thoughts:
Lots of available inputs/ouputs. Love it.
The autotune, especially the long term trim, works really well. Got my car idling really well quickly.

So yea, a sub forum would be great.

Only issue I am having is my dash tach doesn't work. I have 94, so the ECU does not provide the signal. The Haltech has an adjustable tach output. I can specify a square wave up to 12v. Set to low or high with a 4k7 pullup. So, I am not sure how this should be setup. Any thoughts?


timwrx 09-15-2020 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Socals14 (Post 1581324)
Only issue I am having is my dash tach doesn't work. I have 94, so the ECU does not provide the signal. The Haltech has an adjustable tach output. I can specify a square wave up to 12v. Set to low or high with a 4k7 pullup. So, I am not sure how this should be setup. Any thoughts?

I've got an Elite 1500 and love it, for tach output I'm using DPO1 and I have mine set to Active State High and Pullup Voltage 12v and it works great, does a cool tach sweep on start up.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d0b1ea03e6.png

I started with a PnP adapter but ended up bying a basic loom and wired it in using a combination of existing harness and new connections.

So much you can do with this ECU and very easy to work with.

Socals14 09-15-2020 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by timwrx (Post 1581333)
I've got an Elite 1500 and love it, for tach output I'm using DPO1 and I have mine set to Active State High and Pullup Voltage 12v and it works great, does a cool tach sweep on start up.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d0b1ea03e6.png

I started with a PnP adapter but ended up bying a basic loom and wired it in using a combination of existing harness and new connections.

So much you can do with this ECU and very easy to work with.

How did you set the pulses?


shuiend 09-15-2020 12:55 PM

Well now we have a Haltech sub-forum.


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