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Canyonfive 10-26-2012 04:16 PM

Hydra vs Boost Gauge
 
Hydra vs Boost Gauge

which one is accurate? lol My boost going up shows the same however the gauge doesnt drop off at the upper rpms the 1 to 1.5psi the hydra shows.

LukeH 10-26-2012 04:42 PM

Boost leak somewhere? start checking connections.

97montego 11-02-2012 09:27 PM

Mines always had a 1 psi offset from the gauge at 12 psi.

I've always assumed the gauge was out a bit.

Does it matter?

Faeflora 12-15-2012 09:24 PM

gauge can be off and also

gauge is relative pressure

hydra is absolute pressure

Faeflora 12-15-2012 09:25 PM

And. the length of the boost signal line matters. And same with if the gauge line or gauge has a restrictor.

triple88a 12-15-2012 10:59 PM

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albumleaf 12-15-2012 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 959574)
gauge can be off and also

gauge is relative pressure

hydra is absolute pressure

Difference in psi between psi and psig is 14.7, not 1-1.5


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 959575)
And. the length of the boost signal line matters.

Wrong, not over the timescale we're talking about here.

Faeflora 12-16-2012 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 959605)
Difference in psi between psi and psig is 14.7, not 1-1.5


Wrong, not over the timescale we're talking about here.

No, I am fucking right about the damn boost gauge line and the gauge vs. hydra.

Line affects responsiveness pretty significantly. This is especially important for your MAP sensor.

Now go suck your cock fuckface.

albumleaf 12-16-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 959616)
No, I am fucking right about the damn boost gauge line and the gauge vs. hydra.

Line affects responsiveness pretty significantly. This is especially important for your MAP sensor.

Now go suck your cock fuckface.

Yeah, definitely on the order of a couple seconds :jerkit:. Pressure is pressure or he has a slight leak on the line. You'd think after being wrong so many times you'd keep your mouth shut.

Aricjm15 12-17-2012 02:39 AM

The pressure displayed by the Hydra would be accurate if you were at sea level. It is absolute/ converted from kpa like Fae said.

albumleaf 12-17-2012 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Aricjm15 (Post 959924)
The pressure displayed by the Hydra would be accurate if you were at sea level. It is absolute/ converted from kpa like Fae said.

You don't work at UCC do you?

Like I said though, the difference between relative and absolute pressure is an order of magnitude more than the difference he's seeing, something else is the issue.

Aricjm15 12-17-2012 04:07 PM

No it reads in absolute. And displays in gauge pressure. The difference is because it does not compensate for altitude. If you owned and used a hydra you would probably understand.

triple88a 12-17-2012 04:23 PM

The difference of absolute vs relative pressure would be seen at idle or even when the car is off. In other words the difference would be there at all times.

Now the OP says his hydra reading drops down while the boost gauge stays stationary and that happens only at the upper rpms, it sounds more like theres a leak somewhere on the boost line going to the hydra.

albumleaf 12-17-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Aricjm15 (Post 960149)
No it reads in absolute. And displays in gauge pressure. The difference is because it does not compensate for altitude. If you owned and used a hydra you would probably understand.

I know what a pressure reading is. If I see 5psi on my boost gauge I know that's reading 135kPA in my DIYPNP.

Fagflora thinks that somehow the 1-1.5psi difference is coming from the difference in absolute vs relative, when that's simply not the case. Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.

triple88a 12-17-2012 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 960183)
Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.

Actually the hydra is reading absolute pressure. It does not compensate for altitude HOWEVER the boost gauge is reading relative pressure. That relative pressure measures the pressure inside the pipe against the pressure it sees outside. The hydra on the other hand uses a standard calibration so unless you calibrate it your self at your current altitude you are using absolute pressure configuration at 0 altitude therefore your altitude will influence the readings.

Faeflora 12-18-2012 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 960183)
Fagflora thinks that somehow the 1-1.5psi difference is coming from the difference in absolute vs relative, when that's simply not the case. Neither the boost gauge nor the MAP sensor in the Hydra compensate for altitude, I'm not sure why you mentioned it.

No I don't fuckign think that. I know the differential is just up top.

I still say it can be the damn boost signal lines. If you want to argue with me about it then you haven't fucked around with tuning boost enough.


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