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Old 03-27-2009, 08:45 PM   #21
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Put the brakes on this thread.

I couldn't get the 15401 WBO2 calibrated, so I turned it off. Well, a friend of mine came over today to try to sort things out. After getting a lot of nothing done..I gave up and left it on NBO2.

Call FM.

Yup 15401 doesn't work according to Jeremy. WTF? Oh, since I am running a 2.17 (maybe have something to do with other's success of the 15401?) and that used the old VW/AUDI sourced WBO2, I might have to send my box in for a reflash... now THAT pisses me off. WTF... My car is my daily, I don't have another car to get to work and back....downtime will damn ******* kill me.. ARGH.
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****! I'm running the 2.5 version. It's worked for me so far.
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:59 AM   #23
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maybe that's just enough difference to make it work.

So you're positively sure the 15401 wors with v2.5 and reads AFRs normally? Because if I get mine reflashed to 2.5 then I guess I can skip on the $275 (that I really don't even have right now) and use the WBO2 I bought/spliced.
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I'm not entirely sure the 2.17 CAN be "reflashed" to a 2.5. I think the hardware is different.

there's gotta be a sensor that is a drop in replacement for the 2.1 though. i cant imagine it's 275 dollars. hell, the brand new one with autotune access is 300.
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I'm pretty sure y8s is correct. From what I remember, Jeremy did confirm awhile back that one could not upgrade from a 2.17 to 2.5. You can upgrade from 2.5 to 2.6 though but I guess that's little comfort for you at this point. Sorry Dopp that this didn't work out for you.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:44 PM   #27
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Well, if it can't be reflashed I don't really care... that jsut means I don't have to be stranded without a car because the box is bouncing it's way across the country.

However, i'd still like to find a WBO2 that doesn't cost damn $275.

Just for ***** and giggles I stopped by NAPA to see how much for a WBO2 that i've read will work.... $420.....went to Honda to see about that... $520!!!! I laughed at the parts guy and told him a crappy 92 VX hatch wasn't even worth thaat much and walked out.
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those VX are probably worth more today than 5 years ago... good mileage and vtec if you want to do a swap but keep your ECU.

oh and maybe you want to check this out.
92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 Honda Civic O2 Oxygen Sensor: sg335-REA1134-36531-P07-003-36531-P2M-A01 Auto Parts Direct To You | AutoPartsDirectToYou.com
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hmmm..might have to try that one. thanks man.
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Well, if it can't be reflashed I don't really care... that jsut means I don't have to be stranded without a car because the box is bouncing it's way across the country.

However, i'd still like to find a WBO2 that doesn't cost damn $275.

Just for ***** and giggles I stopped by NAPA to see how much for a WBO2 that i've read will work.... $420.....went to Honda to see about that... $520!!!! I laughed at the parts guy and told him a crappy 92 VX hatch wasn't even worth thaat much and walked out.
Did you try O'Reily's? They're always cheaper than everyone IME.
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So what is the difference between a "LSU" sensor and a "LxHx" sensor? I found a VW/AUDI part number thats almost identical.. mine is 036 906 262 B , and the closest VW part I have found is 021 906 262 B. Reading on WBO2.net or whatever it is, says the 021 part number is the Bosch 17014 which they also call it a Bosch LSU 4.2.

Any ideas?
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So what is the difference between a "LSU" sensor and a "LxHx" sensor? I found a VW/AUDI part number thats almost identical.. mine is 036 906 262 B , and the closest VW part I have found is 021 906 262 B. Reading on WBO2.net or whatever it is, says the 021 part number is the Bosch 17014 which they also call it a Bosch LSU 4.2.

Any ideas?

I'll let you guys know for sure if it's the exact same plug or not. I'm picking up my replacement today, the Bosch unit.
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I don't care about the plug... I care about the sensor itself.. the plug is going to get cut off anyway.
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Sensor is slightly different, bigger holes with a smaller middle hole. I crossed the part numbers off my AEM sensor to find a Bosch number, it was in fact 17014 through a Bosch catalog. Now the connector is different, it's oval and not square. Luckily, this time, you can fit a square peg in a oval hole Same 6 pins in the same order. It's not a tight fit, but you can feel a little resistance. It does look as though you can change the connector ends though, I'm going to give that a shot for the hell of it instead of just hoping it holds with tape. I know you're more than likely going to cut the connector off, but like I said, it's identically the same but with some longer wires.
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Sensor is slightly different, bigger holes with a smaller middle hole. I crossed the part numbers off my AEM sensor to find a Bosch number, it was in fact 17014 through a Bosch catalog. Now the connector is different, it's oval and not square. Luckily, this time, you can fit a square peg in a oval hole Same 6 pins in the same order. It's not a tight fit, but you can feel a little resistance. It does look as though you can change the connector ends though, I'm going to give that a shot for the hell of it instead of just hoping it holds with tape. I know you're more than likely going to cut the connector off, but like I said, it's identically the same but with some longer wires.
OK... it's indentical to what...but with longer wires? What are you using it with? Hydra 2.1 or 2.5? What other sensor are you comparing it to?
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I crossed the part numbers off my AEM sensor to find a Bosch number, it was in fact 17014 through a Bosch catalog. Now the connector is different, it's oval and not square.

AEM UEGO sensor to 17014 Bosch sensor, my apologies for not stating this better and sooner. I'm using MS w/ AEM wideband.

AEM sensor uses a square connector where as the Bosch 17014 sensor uses an oval connector, my guess it being that it's a direct replacement for VW/Audi's w/ turbo.

I bought the 17014 unit like you had asked about. I don't know how your connector is, I just wanted to share some info on what the Bosch unit was like. My apologies if I came off sounding like a dick, I really wasn't being one.
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You're still missing my point. The Hydra WBO2 has a connector that is custom to the application..NONE of the Bosch/Audi/VW/NTK sensors out there will have the "right" connector...unless I buy the replacement from FM/Hydra.
What I am looking for is the correct sensor itself.

What matters is if there is a difference between a "LSU" labeled WBO2 and a "L1H1/L2H2" labeled sensor. Is the 021 part number from VW/AUDI the same actual sensor as the 036 or is it a completely different sensor. Is the 17014 actually stamped with "NTK" on it? Is it a LSU or L2H2 sensor?
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the bosch LSU is a different sensor. it's not an L1H1. it wont work.
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the bosch LSU is a different sensor. it's not an L1H1. it wont work.
It has LSU4.2 on it from memory, it's back at home right now or I'd take a pic of it showing the numbers on it. Sorry for fuggin up your thread man
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Well, it seems the Honda part number that is a L2H2 sensor and is Bosch 13246 can be had at Auto Zone for $199. But, they don't stock them at all. So I called Orilley's and they were $410...but they price match. So I called and they do have one in the warehouse...and they price match. So I told the guy that AZ has them for $213 out the door and he agreed to the price and said he has a driver at the Forest Park warehouse and that he will have the driver pick up the O2 for me. So i na few hours, we'll know if I have a working WBO2 again
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