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TonyC 09-26-2007 12:37 PM

$94K nissan?
 
bitch pulease!

Nissan taking pre-orders for Skyline

EVO spec == $94K.. :nono::td:
(base = $57K)

just for comparison, a 4 year old Infiniti Q45, the last $55K+ Nissan sold in the USA, is now worth < $25k.

m2cupcar 09-26-2007 12:58 PM

I wonder how that EVO spec would fare with a $70k Z06 with $20k worth of factory installed/warrantied mods.

levnubhin 09-26-2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 156516)
I wonder how that EVO spec would fare with a $70k Z06 with $20k worth of factory installed/warrantied mods.


Probably not very well. Or how would it do against a Viper?
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Newbsauce 09-26-2007 01:05 PM

Its kind of hard to compare a viper to anything.. I mean its a very primitive car. I think the most advanced system on the viper is the sensor on the convertibles that drops the side windows an inch then raises them to seal with the roof. I'm sure the skyline probably has some nifty electronics systems in it.

levnubhin 09-26-2007 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 156520)
Its kind of hard to compare a viper to anything.. I mean its a very primitive car. I think the most advanced system on the viper is the sensor on the convertibles that drops the side windows an inch then raises them to seal with the roof. I'm sure the skyline probably has some nifty electronics systems in it.


If I cared about stuff like that I wouldnt be driving a Miata. Im more intrested in #'s to #'s
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hustler 09-26-2007 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 156516)
I wonder how that EVO spec would fare with a $70k Z06 with $20k worth of factory installed/warrantied mods.

I'll be suprised if the c6z doesn't dominate it now.

m2cupcar 09-26-2007 01:21 PM

I was fortunate to race a Viper GTS and when comes down to performance, I'd hardly say it was primitive. The transition from a club racing Miata to the Viper only took me a couple of laps. It was all about modulating the throttle - driving it was Miata-easy.

I think Nissan is definitely hedging it's bets on a nissan-fanatics and exclusivity.

hustler 09-26-2007 01:31 PM

where's toyota...oh yeah, enjoying their money.

m2cupcar 09-26-2007 01:42 PM

working on the next supra
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...8/newsletter01
http://www.drivingenthusiast.net/sec.../22.html#a2169

levnubhin 09-26-2007 02:00 PM

Every time I see that^^^ it gets uglier and uglier.
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Exhondaman 09-26-2007 02:54 PM

21 inch rims on the GT-R. I wonder if they spin though.

http://2009gtr.blogspot.com/2007/09/...and-tires.html

Newbsauce 09-26-2007 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 156526)
I was fortunate to race a Viper GTS and when comes down to performance, I'd hardly say it was primitive. The transition from a club racing Miata to the Viper only took me a couple of laps. It was all about modulating the throttle - driving it was Miata-easy.

I think Nissan is definitely hedging it's bets on a nissan-fanatics and exclusivity.

Good thing I was not implying that the performance was primitive. I am implying that the increased cost of this nissan versus the skyline probably is a function of the increased cost on stupid electronics and retail mark up. Look at the R32 that thing had some nice onboard AWD management (ATTsomething) systems and that was back in the mid 90s. The R34 had some HICAS suspension system, and all wheel steering. They are notorious for building random shit that definitely ups the price tag into these cars.

patsmx5 09-26-2007 03:16 PM

Ouch, that's too much money for too little car.

mazda/nissan 09-26-2007 04:12 PM

that car's gonna be badass (and i think will rip the fattass corvette a new one), and i guess the point of the 90k car is that mods won't be out any time soon to get the 50k car to its hp point, heck the 2007 350z still doesn't have a turbo system....

cueball1 09-26-2007 04:21 PM

Lets see... Stock Zo6 has 505hp, new GTR Evo 530. Unless the Evo is significantly lighter it looks like a pretty heads up race. Dump an extra 20K in the Zo6 and the skyline has no chance.

I love that the pre orders aren't refundable! If they roll out a turd sandwich on Oct. 28th you are stuck with it.

Zabac 09-26-2007 04:27 PM

i wonder how rare they will be with a $94K price tag...probably as rare as R34's are now in the states...it just seems way to high for a nissan
toyota scrapped the last AWD Supra due to estimated $70K price tag, wtf is nissan thinking with $94K?~!@#$ i dont get it, they must not be anticipating too many of these to be built period...

96rdstr 09-26-2007 04:54 PM

Nissan will be asking Porsche prices at their budget dealerships. Yeah, we'll see...


Salesman-
No, sir, you dont need the 15k Sentra, what you really need is to step up to this 100k GTR sitting next to it.

firedog25 09-26-2007 05:39 PM

One thing you have to think of is it's one of the most technologically advanced Nissan's in the stable. Not to mention the fastest and best handling. Not only that, it has serious motorsport heritage behind it. Appearantly the chassis tuners for Nissan have been lapping the shit out of the Nurbergring. Their target is not only a Porsche, but the Porsche Carrera GT and they're very close to matching or beating it. They've already put the GT3 to shame. The Skyline GT-R is a supercar at not so supercar prices. It's reputation precedes it in the United States thanks to Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport. Personally, if I had the means, I'd have one in my garage. People will buy it no matter what...

Also, have you guys seen the fucking tailpipes on this thing? You could lose your baby in them and even though that's pre-production I don't see much changing.

96rdstr 09-26-2007 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by firedog25 (Post 156653)
One thing you have to think of is it's one of the most technologically advanced Nissan's in the stable. Not to mention the fastest and best handling. Not only that, it has serious motorsport heritage behind it. Appearantly the chassis tuners for Nissan have been lapping the shit out of the Nurbergring. Their target is not only a Porsche, but the Porsche Carrera GT and they're very close to matching or beating it. They've already put the GT3 to shame. The Skyline GT-R is a supercar at not so supercar prices. It's reputation precedes it in the United States thanks to Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport. Personally, if I had the means, I'd have one in my garage. People will buy it no matter what...

Also, have you guys seen the fucking tailpipes on this thing? You could lose your baby in them and even though that's pre-production I don't see much changing.


You will have to do a lot of convincing for a dude with 94k to buy a GT-R. Perhaps the guys in the Gran Turismo world would buy it. Maybe that is what they are hoping for. The GT-R has a history/lineage overseas. Americans cannot relate to it, so it is going to be a hard sell for Nissan. Historically speaking, people in the US didnt want to spend 40-60k on a Japanese sports car in the 90's. That's one of the main reasons that all the of the high powered Japanese sports cars took a dump in the US. The Supra TT, 300ZX TT, RX7 TT, and the 3000GT, and as recent as a couple of years ago, the NSX all priced themselves out of the market. Now, they are going to try and sell a Japanese "Supercar" for double that? I dont see it.

piratetim 09-26-2007 08:16 PM

Depends on the dude. You have a mid twenties guy with lots of money and loves the tuner scene. yea he would drop 94k on a rare new version of a GTr. Especially when it has a Nissan badge and is taking down big guns out of germany.

Now on the other hand take anyone into muscle cars, sleepers, or just spending outrageous amounts of money on stuff like Ferrari. Then no, they would not be a buyer for this car.

Its not like there will be one sitting at every Nissan dealer in America either. It will be a limited production car, and each dealer will have to be allocated one. I sell for chevy and its the same case when we have a Z06 on the floor. People dont come in for either a 15k Cobalt or a race ready corvette.


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