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Joe Perez Sep 22, 2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 774227)
Yes, but computer growth has been very much exponential. 1977 to 1990 was pretty slow, starting at such a rudimentary point in computing. Then 1990-2000 was a pretty big leap. 2000 to 2010 was an even larger leap forward, multiple times more so than the previous decade.

I've been thinking about this a lot. And maybe I'm just looking at this from a different perspective, but to me, things have been slowing down since the 90s.

If you're talking about exponential growth in terms of the number of computers in the world, then yeah, there's no question there. Even as a lifelong geek, I own way more "computers" today than I did even just ten years ago, although only one of them actually sits on a desk. And people who would never have bought a "computer" 15 or 20 years ago probably own several of them today without even realizing it.

But in terms of technological development? We're in the weeds right now.

From the late 1950s through the early 1970s, development was pretty boring. Transistors got faster, and computer manufacturers packed more and more of them into the box, but nothing fundamentally interesting took place in terms of the underlying technology.

Then 1974 happened.

The 8080 wasn't actually the first microprocessor. It wasn't even the second. But it was the first one that you could actually build a full-fledged computer out of. That was a paradigm-shifting event. Computers could suddenly be small and cheap! And thus, the PC as we know it today was born.

That was huge.

Between '74 and '77 there was a lot of progress in terms of user-interface. Things like keyboards and monitors became a de-facto standard, which was a big leap from the earliest UIs:

http://oldcomputers.net/pics/imsai8080-left.jpg

And that was huger than huge. It was fucking mind-blowing.

After that, things kind of slowed down for a while. From 1977 until well into the 1980s, not much happened. Memory grew slowly, processor speeds ticked up incrementally. Massive growth in terms of the number of PCs that existed, but since manufacturers could barely build the machines fast enough to meet demand, there wasn't much need to improve them dramatically.


When the Intel 80386 came out, that seemed to kick things into high gear. Suddenly, the Processor War was on, and it was more than just cranking up the frequency for a change. New techniques like memory management, prefetch, and even branch prediction started to be envisioned. And processors in general were starting to get cheap enough that they could be customized for specific applications within the computer. Bit blitters led to polygon shaders, and suddenly graphics got interesting. Rudimentary FM synthesis paved the way for wavetable-based audio, and suddenly computers sounded as good as they looked!

And then, somewhere just after the turn of the century, it all sort of froze.


Seems like these days the only real innovation is in figuring out how to do the same things we did 10 years ago but in a smaller form-factor and with lower power consumption. Nowadays, each successive generation of CPUs is actually slower than the last! And they're not doing anything radical in terms of architecture either- Intel figured out that it was far easier to just cut-and-paste the same design over and over and slap the label "multi core!" onto it, and the copycats followed suit.

Right now, I fear that Moore's Law is in danger of repeal.






On an unrelated note:

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Ha! I totally forgot about those! (I never owned one- I used scissors.)

sixshooter Sep 22, 2011 03:01 PM

Reno Air Races Crash
 
My father was there. He is in this picture between the pole and the left edge of the white tents.



http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/y...stinstantR.jpg


Be nice to the people you love.

Braineack Sep 22, 2011 03:08 PM

no seat, no tailfin, no care.

GeneSplicer Sep 22, 2011 03:09 PM

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Alabama justice system at work! I couldn't resist taking a pic, lmao! I asked him what he tried to steal, he said a game controller... :bowrofl:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1316718188

Joe Perez Sep 22, 2011 03:12 PM

A modern take on the Pillory! I love it.

http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/upl...ory_stocks.jpg

devin mac Sep 22, 2011 04:04 PM

i also think this is the greatest thing ever. you have to wonder how many people would be more discouraged by public humiliation than whatever other things we currently do to them

gospeed81 Sep 22, 2011 04:06 PM

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fucking win!

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devin mac Sep 22, 2011 04:08 PM

his most visited was probably a bunch of Buck Angel fan sites, and MeatSpin... :-)

pusha Sep 22, 2011 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 774514)

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs51/i/20...efiant_Ant.png

rmcelwee Sep 22, 2011 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 774287)
I'm throwing away an oldass computer today, dropping it off at the recycling center at lunch hopefully, and a 15" CRT. It was Meg's old pentium 1 HP from college.

I have three computers I have been wanting to throw away for quite a while. I slip a part of one in the trash can at my house every week - disappearing a little at a time. If I try to put the entire thing in there (instead of hiding it) the trash man throws it on my lawn.

gospeed81 Sep 22, 2011 07:27 PM

http://houston.culturemap.com/site_m....181w_136h.jpg


OFFICIALLY the worst team in baseball...


At least Drayton McClane is selling the team, and we've got the first round pick.

rmcelwee Sep 22, 2011 07:46 PM

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rmcelwee Sep 22, 2011 08:03 PM

Me and Kim Komando (~1994)

http://www.lightweightmiata.com/misc/komando.jpg

http://www.komando.com/media/images/Komando_300x250.jpg

Joe Perez Sep 22, 2011 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 774623)

Holy hell yes!

I killed so many hours playing Global War, Trade Wars 2002, and LORD that it's almost embarrassing.

In college, we had a massive whiteboard stuck to one wall of the apartment where I actually attempted to map out an entire TradeWars universe. I failed. That may have been, in all seriousness, the best videogame ever created, full stop.

Was that screenshot from a WildCat BBS?


http://www.memphisbbs.net/images/cnetlogin.gif

rmcelwee Sep 22, 2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 774636)
Holy hell yes!

I killed so many hours playing Global War, Trade Wars 2002, and LORD that it's almost embarrassing.

In college, we had a massive whiteboard stuck to one wall of the apartment where I actually attempted to map out an entire TradeWars universe. I failed. That may have been, in all seriousness, the best videogame ever created, full stop.

Was that screenshot from a WildCat BBS?

No idea what that screenshot is from (just random pic I found on the net).

I started my business one day when I got tired of waiting for my turn in Trade Wars and BRE. I ran several using PCBoard, Telegard, and Major BBS. I wish I still had some screenshots. I do have an old ad for one of them:



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elesjuan Sep 22, 2011 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanFuturistic (Post 774418)
Yet, no mention of this over priced piece of shit acer, just on the next page....No bias here folks!

https://i.imgur.com/xdmKe.jpg


Originally Posted by scottyd (Post 774419)
Ignore elesjaun. He only knows how to bash Apple.

Both of you obviously failed to read the pricing.

The Acer is a complete computer, while the piece of shit apple does NOT include the $450.00 15" monitor. Yeah I bash crApple products, especially their computers. Name ONE thing an apple computer can do that a PC can't do that anyone gives a fuck about, yet look at the price difference for what is basically the same fucking thing.

How about that Toshiba notebook? Jesus.. I was GIVEN a pretty similar notebook about 1999.. 2300$? Fawk..



Fuck your faggggot ass drifting, this is how Iraqis do:


That's borderline absolute fucking insanity or maaaad skill... You choose.

UrbanFuturistic Sep 22, 2011 09:38 PM

Yeah, notebooks back then were totally ridiculous on price.

And something my Mac does that my Windows based machines dont do? Works every day the way I expect it to.

NA6C-Guy Sep 22, 2011 09:44 PM

:bowrofl: Oh shit. At 6:30, the music in the in car view. All of their music sounds the same to me. I guess maybe that's good drift music. Sounds like what Apu would be listening to at the convenience store...

Not enough crashing...

Youtube Arab drifting crash and enjoy.

elesjuan Sep 22, 2011 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanFuturistic (Post 774686)
Yeah, notebooks back then were totally ridiculous on price.

And something my Mac does that my Windows based machines dont do? Works every day the way I expect it to.

To be honest I had forgotten how fuggin expensive everything electronic was back then. My first dvd player I bought in 1997 and spent $550 dollars on it! :facepalm:

Works everyday the way you expect it? Neat. My Non-Mac desktop does the same thing.. Odd.

http://manychefsbroth.co.uk/wp-conte...1202232827.jpg



Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 774691)
:bowrofl: Oh shit. At 6:30, the music in the in car view. All of their music sounds the same to me. I guess maybe that's good drift music. Sounds like what Apu would be listening to at the convenience store...

Not enough crashing...

Youtube Arab drifting crash and enjoy.

TBH I've never tried to drive like that in a FWD vehicle, but I've auto-x'd several.. That's some crazy ass shit!!

shuiend Sep 22, 2011 10:13 PM

My Seedsbox in the Netherlands is AWESOME. Downloading the movie at 10.5MB/s.
http://www.boostedmiata.com/gallery2...wloadspeed.png


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