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Old 09-21-2007, 12:27 AM   #21
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im sorry but the photo with,the guys arm in his mouth is funny.haha
you dont go sleeping in a bears den and expect sleep peacefully.unless they are hibernating.
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Good Lord and butter. Being a predator, the gator has learned to attack humans, and that they are squishy and go well with a nice merlot. So if the offending predator was not extermanated, it would have attacked again, given the chance, regardless of where it was relocated to.
Being a predator it has learned to attack humans......Sounds pretty ignorant to me. A predatory animal such as an alligator doesn't learn to attack humans, it is there nature to hunt from the day they are born. Being that alligators are one of the oldest surviving creatures on the planet I'd say they are pretty damn good at it. From the sounds of it from people who have been to this lake it appears that it was somewhat common knowledge that alligators are in the area anyway. You'd have to be pretty ******* dumb to go swimming in waters you know to potentially have alligators in them.

Louisiana has alot of gators/crocs. I went down there for the Sugar Bowl 3ish years ago and was a bunch of them and I wasn't even near the water too much. You don't see people just swimming around the lakes and rivers there much do you?
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you guys are a bunch of damn hippies ... anyway I believe that any animal which kills or maims a person, should be killed because if it becomes a learned behavior, its not a risk we should take. Further (i know its apples to oranges, but hear me out) I work every day with retarded children and all of the staff is trained extensively on behavior modification techniques. As a cornerstone to the philosophy of our department, we follow the ABC (Antecedent, Behavior, Consequence) model of behavior to identify causes and solutions to negative behavior in a very simple way. I could go on longer, but I think a quick ABC analysis of the Aligators behavior may be more effective in getting my point across:

Antecedent: Human is swimming, wading, or whatever near the habitat of the Alligator. Alligator may be hungry, have newborn near the site, etc.
Behavior: Alligator attacks the human, removing the arm.
Consequence: Alligator is fed, protects her newborn, etc

It makes complete sense why the alligator would attack, and the human could have been completely stupid with whatever he was doing, but that is aside from the point I am trying to make. The Alligator recieved a POSITIVE CONSEQUENCE and that reinforces this behavior, making future attacks more likely.

hopefully that makes some sense. I know its pretty messed up at first glance to kill an animal for some dumbass person's actions, but if it endangers the lives of another the best option imo is to either retrain the animal or kill it. We simply dont have the resources (or maybe even the ability) to retrain.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:49 AM   #24
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Being a predator it has learned to attack humans......Sounds pretty ignorant to me. A predatory animal such as an alligator doesn't learn to attack humans, it is there nature to hunt from the day they are born. Being that alligators are one of the oldest surviving creatures on the planet I'd say they are pretty damn good at it. From the sounds of it from people who have been to this lake it appears that it was somewhat common knowledge that alligators are in the area anyway. You'd have to be pretty ******* dumb to go swimming in waters you know to potentially have alligators in them.

Louisiana has alot of gators/crocs. I went down there for the Sugar Bowl 3ish years ago and was a bunch of them and I wasn't even near the water too much. You don't see people just swimming around the lakes and rivers there much do you?
Yes, being that human beings are a naturally occuring food source that also co-habitate in the alligators aquatic environment, I'm amazed there are so many of us left.

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the difference being that aligators natural habitat is in/around the water, we only go there for fun...well if you think your a badass and want to swim with the gators and they decide to bite your arm of, then they have the right to, you are challanging their territory...you should have known better, go to a swimming pool tough guy...no gators there, but you may get your hand bitten off by a retard or something, muahaha
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This thread is hilarious. First off alligators are similar to sharks when it comes to risk. They sometimes attack, but by and large they are not a significant threat. All the folks that are saying you have to be an idiot to swim in waters that could possibly have gators are probably not the least concerned going into the ocean. It's a calculated risk. I have gone swimming, skiing, golfing etc within sight of gators before, but you stay out of their way and they stay out of yours. I lived in California when there was a rash of gator attacks in Florida a few years back and everyone was freaking out. Nevermind that only 20 or so people had been killed by gators in the last 60 years. Of course, freak things do happen and it makes the news and everyone is an expert. Sure you can say anyone who swims in any water with any chance of an alligator is an idiot, but I could say the same thing about surfing in any ocean that might have a shark. I still do both.

Obviously any predatory animal should be avoided when possible, but I was way more fearful mountain-biking in SoCal than swimming in the Chattahoochee, but that's because moutain lions are a heck of a lot harder to avoid since you can't see them and they are a lot faster.

I also am a big proponent of killing any animal that attacks a human (unprovoked of course). It's an animal, not a human and once they do it once, it is more likely it will happen again.

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Just for fun I did a little research and it seems alligator attacks are less common than shark attacks, but alligator attacks have a higher fatality rate. But, both are extremely low compared to say dog attacks. So, for those who fear alligator attacks, you should really be worried about dogs.
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I wish more stupid people would be killed by animals. Or hit by buses.
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I wish more stupid people would be killed by animals. Or hit by buses.
i dont know how to emphasize this point any further, but +523560 brownie points for you
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:40 PM   #30
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alligators are awesome. most people are not.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:47 AM   #31
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I used to live near there and swam on that lake often, this really sux.

http://www.charleston.net/photos/gal...igator_attack/
I currently live a few miles from there but my stupid *** never swims there (or anywhere else). I'm scared of the alligators, piranha, Loch Ness Monsters, etc. If God had wanted me off land and in the water I would have gills.
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I was there for a weekend celebration and was part of the party that helped the guy. My wife and I had just left but had I been there 5 minutes longer, he would have collapsed RIGHT behind me. There's only one clearing in that area and it was right behind the picnic table where I was. Also, the arm was not cut out of the gators stomach. The gator was shot 5 times with a rifle and the arm was recovered from it's mouth. The arm was never swallowed. The reason I know this is because I was on my cell phone with my mother who was still there and was relaying advice for me so I heard all the commotion in the background. I was relaying advice because I work at an E.R. and was a Combat Medic in the Army and because the nurses present work in areas not related to trauma except for the woman pictured who happens to work in an ICU. The guy was a knucklehead for swimming there but he was also lucky that where ever Filipinos are... there's sure to be a nurse!! :gay:
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That is so true . They are completely displacing the local nurses here. The hospitals are bring them in by the boat/airplane loads.
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I was there for a weekend celebration and was part of the party that helped the guy.
Where were you yesterday (tech day). You need to start working on that car and not hanging around laying on the beach every weekend!
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WOW. what a bunch of tree huggers you are. If they want to rule the earth and have their own habitat they should be smarter. That's the way it works.

anyway, i love the wording on this "The dead alligator, which attacked a Summerville man"

reminds me of this:

Mahalik: She told me that she heard a zombie going through her trash the other day. The next morning, she turned up missing.
Tom Ryan: Uh...
C. J.: [C.J. interrupts] What? Okay, back up. How in the hell do you "turn up missing"?
Mahalik: 'Cause nobody knows where you are when they realize you ain't there!
Tom Ryan: Guys, I'm trying to ask...
C. J.: [C.J. interrupts again] So you telling me that you can appear and disappear at the same time.
Mahalik: No, man. You can't appear and disappear at the same time. The bitch ain't David Copperfield!
Tom Ryan: Uh, guys...
C. J.: [C.J. interrupts yet again] Mmm. No, no. But you can't be gone from one place and show up somewhere else entirely. So when you turn up, you're never missing. And when you're missing, you never turn up.
Mahalik: Unless... you a zombie.
C. J.: Damn! Hey, that's some plausible **** right there. You should blog about that.
Mahalik: I'm gonna put that on MySpace.
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Where were you yesterday (tech day). You need to start working on that car and not hanging around laying on the beach every weekend!
Resucitating crackheads, as usual. All the events have been on weekends that I'm working. WTF?? I haven't been able to make a thing yet!!

edit: No offense to any users of crack on this forum.

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