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kenzo42 03-10-2012 09:39 PM

Android Bionic vs Iphone 4s
 
I'm getting a new phone tomorrow and can't decide which one to get. Do you guys have an opinion?

gearhead_318 03-10-2012 10:00 PM

A friend of my brother got a new iPhone 4s for whatever they cost, 300 or 400 I think, and then got a $85/month plan, and all that is with his military discount. That being said I'd go with whatever is cheaper.

palmtree 03-10-2012 10:20 PM

Which carrier?

shuiend 03-10-2012 10:39 PM

If you are on a carrier that has 4G LTE available in your area, I would make sure you get a phone that can use it. If you are on verizon I highly recommend the Galaxy Nexus.

gearhead_318 03-10-2012 10:40 PM

Sprint I think.

icantthink4155 03-10-2012 10:41 PM

I will almost always vote android over iphone. But Motorola phone are usually not very good.

On a side note the galaxy nexus is pretty awesome.

kenzo42 03-10-2012 10:55 PM

I have Verizon.

Iphone just seem so phaggoty.

kenzo42 03-10-2012 10:58 PM

Oh btw, the Galaxy Nexus is $290 vs $60 for the Bionic. Not sure if worth the price difference.

MartinezA92 03-11-2012 01:57 AM

Galaxy SII Skyrocket? It can use 4G LTE.

I just got one today. I get semi wood using it.

EDIT: god dammit you have verizon, I have no idea if verizon has it.

aaronc7 03-11-2012 03:40 AM

galaxy nexus.. i just upgraded

Bryce 03-11-2012 03:47 AM

FYI att guys, the galaxy s2 Skyrocket HD should be coming out soon. I'm waiting for that. Higher resolution screen and larger batter than the regular skyrocket should be pretty awesome.

Faeflora 03-11-2012 04:13 AM

i have an iphone 4 that i dropped twice tonight.


get one and i will facetime with you. you can not touch yourself though.

icantthink4155 03-11-2012 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 846424)
i have an iphone 4...


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 846370)

Iphone just seem so phaggoty.

Proof.

jtpaintballwdp 03-11-2012 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 846372)
Oh btw, the Galaxy Nexus is $290 vs $60 for the Bionic. Not sure if worth the price difference.


I <3 my Galaxy Nexus. How much is the iPhone 4s?

hustler 03-11-2012 10:46 AM

GSII on Sprint, like a bauce.

I have an EVO3D because the GSII's availability in the US seemed to be an endless court battle. If the GSII Note becomes available on Sprint, I may upgrade out of contract.

The Nexus might be worth waiting for. That will probably be my next phone.

Reverant 03-11-2012 11:59 AM

Will hopefully get a Sony Xperia S in a month or so. So bauce.

Bryce 03-11-2012 12:13 PM

No external sd card on the nexus. That is something I DO NOT want to support. Looks like the skyrocket hd is going to have the same screen as the as the nexus though. I'm stuck with att still because I still have an unlimited data plan. Due for an upgrade on the 21st of May.

hustler 03-11-2012 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 846481)
No external sd card on the nexus. That is something I DO NOT want to support. Looks like the skyrocket hd is going to have the same screen as the as the nexus though. I'm stuck with att still because I still have an unlimited data plan. Due for an upgrade on the 21st of May.

32GB internal though. How often do you pull your current card? I never, ever pull mine. However, I may throw a 32GB card in my card and use it for data and video soon.

aaronc7 03-11-2012 12:36 PM

cool thing about the nexus' storage is, you can use the 32gb for whatever. 32gb worth of apps, or no apps and all music, or whatever you like. Last phone I had was strict XX MB for apps, xx GB for other, i hit the app limit and it was annoying.

Bryce 03-11-2012 12:38 PM

Mine gets pulled at least once a month. I have a few reasons for liking an external sd.
1: Its better than the iphone.
2: Upgradable to 64gb or more.
3: Fixed internal-only memory will call for a premium, price-wise(all iDevices, maybe the next galaxy nexus variant if it makes enough revenue), whereas with external storage, I can buy one large SD card and transfer it to my next new phone. All of my media will be there, and I won't have to pay a premium for the larger internal sd storage size.
4: Transferring data made quick an easy with a microsd-sd card adapter.
5: This isolated to a few phones, but noteworthy: Samsung captivate users running most ice cream sandwich ports are running into an error that is causing the phone's internal sd card to be inaccessible, permanently, until a fix is found. They are still able to use the phone though, by installing the OS on the external sd. Pretty scary stuff if a fix isn't found and its the reason I haven't flashed 4.0 yet.

Bryce 03-11-2012 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by aaronc7 (Post 846494)
cool thing about the nexus' storage is, you can use the 32gb for whatever. 32gb worth of apps, or no apps and all music, or whatever you like. Last phone I had was strict XX MB for apps, xx GB for other, i hit the app limit and it was annoying.

Froyo has made that irrelevant. Apps2sd.

hustler 03-11-2012 12:41 PM

#5 is pretty sketchy, lol. I'm sure there will be a fix or an update, I'm still on Gingerbread.

Bryce 03-11-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 846500)
#5 is pretty sketchy, lol. I'm sure there will be a fix or an update, I'm still on Gingerbread.

Lol yeah. Last thing they were looking at doing as a possible fix was porting over the recovery from the nexus one. I can't wait to for them to fix it because there won't be an official version of ICS for the captivate.


For anyone else looking at the iphone vs android, check out the amoled screens on the android phones. They are the plasma screens of phones. The galaxy nexus has a contrast ratio of 100,000:1. That's over 100 times better than your typical lcd tv (dynamic contrast ratio doesn't count).

Faeflora 03-11-2012 02:47 PM

You guys are such frikken dorks.

It's a phone.

And mobile office.

For those things I want dumb, 100% functional all the time appliance with no fiddling with code and bullshix.

curly 03-11-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by jtpaintballwdp (Post 846449)
I <3 my Galaxy Nexus. How much is the iPhone 4s?

$199. Never judge apple products by their initial price, which was $499 I believe for the 4s. They do that because they have a loyal (read, idiotic) fan base that's willing to spend $300 extra if it means they can have it a month early. Their mobile devices are actually quite affordable. The 3gs is free, and the 4 that I have is only $99. This all assumes a 2 year contract.


Originally Posted by Bryce (Post 846481)
I'm stuck with att still because I still have an unlimited data plan. Due for an upgrade on the 21st of May.

Slightly off topic, but it's no longer unlimited, AFAIK. I sit in a closest staring at monitors all night for 8 hours, so I stream a lot of netflix and pandora. I was above 11gb one month before I found out one of the wireless networks at work will work with netflix. Anyways I was apparently in the top 5% of data users in my region, got a couple texts warning me about it, and they severely limited my speeds. Apparently our area is usually around 10gb, although other regions can limit your unlimited data to around 4 or 5gb.

But just a couple weeks ago I got a message saying that data usage is now capped at 3gb for the unlimited. So now they crank down our speeds over 3gb, although hopefully we still avoid overage charges.


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 846540)
It's a phone.

And mobile office.

For those things I want dumb, 100% functional all the time appliance with no fiddling with code and bullshix.

This times one million. I ---- with my car, motorcycle, indoor and outdoor household projects, etc. I want my phone to work perfectly when I'm in my bed, on the toilet, or out drunk texting. The iphone does that perfectly.

elesjuan 03-11-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 846630)
$199. Never judge apple products by their initial price, which was $499 I believe for the 4s. They do that because they have a loyal (read, idiotic) fan base that's willing to spend $300 extra if it means they can have it a month early. Their mobile devices are actually quite affordable. The 3gs is free, and the 4 that I have is only $99. This all assumes a 2 year contract.

Exploiting idiots and 3rd world slave labor at it's finest. Bravo apple. Bravo.

falcon 03-11-2012 08:12 PM

Been rocking a SGSII since May of last year after selling my IPhone4. Life is so much better.

mgeoffriau 03-11-2012 09:21 PM

Just rooted and ROM'ed my HTC Incredible to run CM7. Oh, and I have (true) unlimited data from Verizon that I can keep until Verizon breaks its promise or I decide to opt into one of their data tiers.

richyvrlimited 03-12-2012 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 846540)
You guys are such frikken dorks.

It's a phone.

And mobile office.

For those things I want dumb, 100% functional all the time appliance with no fiddling with code and bullshix.

I'm with Fae. Had a iPhone3GS, now have a SGS2 and it's a pile of junk in comparison.

TouchWiz is a treanwreck of a UI, all the other ROM's i've tried don't hold a candle to iOS, MIUI isn't bad but it's still not great.

iOS just works

I'd happily swap anyone an iPhone4 for my SGS2...

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 10:05 AM

So does iOS have multi-tasking yet?

richyvrlimited 03-12-2012 10:06 AM

Yes and has for years.

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by richyvrlimited (Post 846898)
Yes and has for years.

Besides background audio and location?

richyvrlimited 03-12-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846899)
Besides background audio and location?

Yes, has for years. Double tap the home button brings up all apps that are running in the background.

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 11:23 AM

That's all the apps that iOS has paused and saved state, right?

curly 03-12-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846937)
That's all the apps that iOS has paused and saved state, right?

Get to your ------- insult and STFU.

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 846944)
Get to your ------- insult and STFU.

Sorry, I just missed what you said because my signal dropped...must have been holding my iPhone wrong.

richyvrlimited 03-12-2012 11:52 AM

So I get an email whilst playing GTA3 on my i device. I swap to the mail app and read the mail, GTA3 gets put in a paused state.

Why is this an issue for you? Why does it matter if the app is running in the background or not, you've only 1 screen to view anything anyway?!?

falcon 03-12-2012 11:54 AM

hehe..

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 12:08 PM

Here's a good summary.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/19983...for_users.html

The kicker:


The bottom line is that, in its visual implementation, Apple's handling of multitasking is more approachable and elegant. Android's multitasking has the advantage of working with all apps, but the way it's implemented lacks grace and vision.
That's it in a nutshell. You guys want to drive the Camry of the phone world, that's cool. That's all I'm saying. I'd rather have a PC than a Mac, and I'd rather have an Android than an iPhone.

But the weird part to me is that the iPhone is like the Camry...if Camry drivers, rather than being generally uninterested in all things automotive and only wanted a driving appliance, somehow became militant in their belief that the Camry was the greatest car ever designed and that it was the best car for everyone's purposes.

I don't mind people driving Camry's...but I'd get pretty tired of Camry fanboys, if such a thing existed.

crashnscar 03-12-2012 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846946)
Sorry, I just missed what you said because my signal dropped...must have been holding my iPhone wrong.

It's funny how many people complain about this who have never experienced it and have never had an iPhone.

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 846960)
It's funny how many people complain about this who have never experienced it and have never had an iPhone.

No, what's funny is seeing all my friends' slim, sleek iPhones covered in big plastic bumper cases.

fmowry 03-12-2012 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 846638)
Exploiting idiots and 3rd world slave labor at it's finest. Bravo apple. Bravo.

I missed it. Which non-made-in-a-third-world-exploited-slave-labor phone are you using again? Are you using one of these?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...eRU1XBibMeQLUg

mgeoffriau 03-12-2012 12:17 PM

I really do love Apple vs. Anything debates.

fmowry 03-12-2012 12:19 PM

I actually have an Incredible and own no Apple products. I do have a decent amount of AAPL though.

Faeflora 03-12-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 846638)
Exploiting idiots and 3rd world slave labor at it's finest. Bravo apple. Bravo.


Uh so what. It's a corporation not a charity. They will make their stuff where it's in their strongest interests to do so.




Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846959)
That's all I'm saying. I'd rather have a PC than a Mac, and I'd rather have an Android than an iPhone.


I'd much rather have a mac and run VMware fusion. And run Win7 in a VM. That said, it will be a grand day when I can run a hypervisor on an ipad.


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846961)
No, what's funny is seeing all my friends' slim, sleek iPhones covered in big plastic bumper cases.

So are nearly all smartphones.

I don't have a cover for my SPIFFY NEW IPHONE 4ES and the naked phone is quite nice to hold.

PC vs Mac is retarded on both sides. If you are assessing a purchase, your decision should be based on your functional requirements and tastes. Given any individual, their requirements and tastes will change over time.

richyvrlimited 03-12-2012 01:29 PM

My SGS2 is so slim and light it's unusable, it requires a rubber case to stop the damn thing falling out of my hand!

Android UI just can't be compared to IOS, nor can any of the UI covers, (not tried sense though to be fair).

It's not the phone really it's the software, but that's the case with 99% of technology, and in the case of ios vs android, iOS whilst not perfect is a damn sight more pleasant to use than android.

Hell it's that clunky my SGS2 is slower to use than my 3Gs was

elesjuan 03-12-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 846964)
I really do love Apple vs. Anything debates.

+1.

Cause you know, *.apple is > Anything in existence. Didn't you get that memo?

Bryce 05-24-2012 12:15 AM

I guess I'm going to eat my words that I said earlier in this thread.

I stopped by the ATT store a couple weeks ago to see if there were any new phones that I hadn't come across in my research. My upgrade day was today. I noticed the HTC One X. I t has all the specs of the now-cancelled Skyrocket HD, and then some.

I just got one today. Yes, internal 16GB memory, no external SD, no removable battery. This is the closed box like the iPhone, but an android.

The screen is the best looking LCD screen I've seen. I've often made the comparison of the AMOLED displays being like plasma TVs due to the abysmal black levels. This is true, and is the reason I prefer plasma TVs (That and very low input lag for gaming). The only LCD technology that I am a fan of is IPS. The HTC one X has an IPS panel. Excellent color accuracy, along with AMOLED-like off-axis viewing, and the best LCD black levels I have seen in a phone to date are a few traits of the display on this phone.

I think 4.7" is about as large as I want to go for a phone display. When holding it in one hand, I can barely pull down the notification bar with my thumb.

The internet speed is pretty good too. 37Mb down and 23Mb up at my GF's house at 8PM. 4G LTE = Internet Pwned.

Anyways, if you're with ATT right now. The HTC One X is the phone to get.

icantthink4155 05-24-2012 10:29 PM

I work for walmart selling the phones. Ive played with the One X a bit and it does have a very nice screen. The sealed battery thing bugs me a little but I could live with it. The no SD card thing I think will probably keep me from buying a phone. especially with only 16gb built in. With a slot, in my mind, it has infinite space.

Bryce 05-25-2012 12:09 AM

Yeah, the thing that caught my eye was the screen. If it were another hum-drum LCD, I wouldn't have noticed it.

It comes with a free 2 year subscription for 25GB of dropbox storage. Pair the cloud storage with LTE connection speeds, and you've got a nice amount of data that is available on the fly.

I got 10.5 hours of battery life today with some heavy usage in some very poor signal areas. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

icantthink4155 05-25-2012 08:46 AM

The problem with free cloud service is that they put limited on file sizes. Ive got like 8gbs with Dropbox and 50gb with Box and they are fairly useless.

Faeflora 05-28-2012 12:38 AM

sorry guys but every single droid phone i've seen has

slow clunky ui

ui looks like myspace

is ugly

Faeflora 05-28-2012 12:39 AM

oh i also shattered my iphone screen last week. my work is going to "fix" it by buying me a new phone. who wants my old one. I will pay $50 for one of you droid losers to use it

Jeff_Ciesielski 05-28-2012 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 882521)
sorry guys but every single droid phone i've seen has

slow clunky ui

ui looks like myspace

is ugly

That isn't so much a shortcoming of the phone or OS itself, it has everything to do with the shitty bloatware that the phone distributors install on them before they get into your hands. I run an ICS build on my Galaxy S2 with go-launcher EX and it's fast as ----. The problem is, most android owners are too scared to flash custom firmware for fear of bricking it that the majority of what people experience is the shitty stock crap.

Faeflora 05-28-2012 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 882528)
That isn't so much a shortcoming of the phone or OS itself, it has everything to do with the shitty bloatware that the phone distributors install on them before they get into your hands. I run an ICS build on my Galaxy S2 with go-launcher EX and it's fast as ----. The problem is, most android owners are too scared to flash custom firmware for fear of bricking it that the majority of what people experience is the shitty stock crap.

Why should I have to flash firmware to make my phone not suck?

Bloatware?? This sounds a lot like... WINDOWS. Linux FAIL

Jeff_Ciesielski 05-28-2012 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 882529)
Why should I have to flash firmware to make my phone not suck?

Bloatware?? This sounds a lot like... WINDOWS. Linux FAIL

Again, nothing to do with the OS itself, it's imposed by the carriers. They subsidize the ---- out of the hardware, therefore they reserve the right to ---- you over by loading their unusable crap onto the phone before it gets into your hands.

Faeflora 05-28-2012 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 882530)
Again, nothing to do with the OS itself, it's imposed by the carriers. They subsidize the ---- out of the hardware, therefore they reserve the right to ---- you over by loading their unusable crap onto the phone before it gets into your hands.


OK well this is where apple wins and it's a big deal. Same thing with how they got a toehold in the PC market.

Phones. You want em to work.

Reverant 05-28-2012 02:27 AM

If you buy a $200 Android phone and expect it to be as fast and good as a $600 iPhone, you are an idiot at the very least. I have an Android phone (Sony Xperia S) that costs as much as an iPhone, but it excels in everything compared to the iPhone.

Processor? Dual core 1.5GHz
Screen? 4.3" LED with Bravia engine
Resolution? 1280x720 (so 720p)
Graphics chip? Adreno 220
Camera? 12MP stills, 1080p video
Storage? 32GB unified (so you don't have two partitions, one for O/S and apps and the other for data, its just one huge partition and you can use it however you like)
HDMI output port
DLNA
USB on the go (you can plug in keyboards, mice, other USB devices!)
NFC
Battery lasts 2-3 days
Charges in less than 1.5hr (1500mA charger!)

Yes, it is better than an iPhone. Boo.

Bryce 05-28-2012 03:17 AM

Revererant, when talking about subsidized 2 year contract purchases, the most you can spend here in the us is 300. Currently the galaxy note and iPhone 4s 64 (32?) Gb iPhone sell for that much under at&t. I can't say much for the experia s as I don't have any experience with it.

On my second day with my one x I plugged it in at 19.5 hours at 25% battery remaining. I am very impressed with HTC's implementation of android 4.0 compared to my mom's iPhone 4s. it is much snappier and the reception is on par with her phone, if it isn't tearing the iPhone a new one with its lte dl/ul speeds.

I am a little disappointed they haven't released a quad-core lte capable phone yet, but I read the differences are marginal.

HTC>Samsung now. galaxy note can suck it, maybe until the lte sgs3 comes out.

Bryce 05-28-2012 03:20 AM

Regarding bloatware, I don't know what that is now with this phone. Nothing running the background will slow this monster down.


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