Angsty commie rant thread
Not to sound like an angsty teenager here, but I figure I should at least talk to someone about it.
I'll start off with some background on me: I'm 17. I come from a wealthy family, and there's no denying that. I try not to fit into the stereotypical wealthy teen persona – I probably only have 250 dollars worth of cloths, shoes, socks, all that. Much less than some people's pants and handbags cost. I do most of my shopping at Target or Walmart. I try to make my own way as much as possible – I got a job so I was less reliant on my parents. I pay for as much as I can for myself – I buy my own cloths, electronics, car parts, gas, that sort of stuff. Like I said, I hate being grouped in with other people. For whatever it's worth, I'm pretty smart. I don't mean school smart (Which I am too), but I can always find my way, if you know what I mean. I can read in between the lines all too well. I can pick up new skills with almost no effort at all. I really don't like people. I have met very few people who I like, and even fewer people who I can stand or want to associate myself with. I very much like the idea of sitting in my room all day or working on my car in solitude. If it wasn't for school, I probably wouldn't even leave the house. Don't get me wrong, I have a few good friends. But even my best of friends annoy me sometimes. I have a severe lack of motivation. I find myself hating myself for it. I'm currently 2 chapters behind in homework. It makes me so angry that I want to punch things, yet I can never bring myself to do it. I have a chapter test for AP Stats tomorrow, and I don't know any of it, yet I just can't bring myself to do anything about it. It's not like I have anything else to do either, sometimes I'll just sit around and stare off into space rather than do anything about it. I even sometimes find myself with a lack of motivation to live. I don't like thinking about these things because then it really comes through in my mind and makes me want to vomit. I oftentimes think “I have nothing to live for”. What do I have to live for? I'm not helping anyone, I shut myself away from other people. It's not like I would go out and hang myself or anything, I just wouldn't mind so much if I just stopped living. I wouldn't fight for life if something happened. It's hard to believe that I'm typing this because of my lack of motivation. I want to do something about it, but I just can't bring myself to care enough to actually do it. I'm a junior in high school – probably the most important year, and I find myself doing even less than I did last year. I'm not really sure where to put this in, so I'll just throw it out there. I don't think, at any point in my life, I've ever taken anything school related seriously. I remember in 4th grade, the year that my school first started to give us homework, I did absolutely nothing. I have studied for about 2 tests in my life. Last year, if I had spent 45 minutes studying for my Chem final, I could have easily gotten an A in the course. I knew this at the time, and I still did nothing. I ended up with a C because of it. I really have no priorities. I have nothing to push for, nothing to work hard for. I often times find myself bored out of my skull, even when doing many different things, even my favorite things. I can't stand being alive sometimes. It's so boring that my stomach starts to hurt and I want to claw my intestines out to make it stop. Anyone got anything? And sorry for the BS thread, I know people have shit way worse than me (Hell, just reading WonTon's old thread made me feel better), but I really just needed to collect my thoughts and see what people had to say. |
tl;dr
the answer is always: MOAR BOOST:) |
Pro Tip. Life gets worse after high school. Stop giving a fuck and just enjoy it.
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hookers and blow?
I'm no help. I'm sorry:giggle: |
About 20% of the guys I supervise in the Navy joined up for exactly the reasons you're talking about. For whatever reason, life has never been a challenge and they're bored. You have the advantage of having "means" which most of the guys I supervise don't have.
My very strong advice to you is: #1: Get some counseling. Seriously, you need a little professional help. #2: Join the military. Most people would simply say "Shut the fuck up and grow a sack"... and some guys can manage that... but it won't last. In a few years, you'll be bored again in college and be back where you are now. |
I don't say this often but. You need to smoke some weed.
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Originally Posted by turotufas
(Post 651994)
I don't say this often but. You need to smoke some weed.
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I don't work to have clients. i have clients because I work.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 651993)
About 20% of the guys I supervise in the Navy joined up for exactly the reasons you're talking about. For whatever reason, life has never been a challenge and they're bored. You have the advantage of having "means" which most of the guys I supervise don't have.
My very strong advice to you is: #1: Get some counseling. Seriously, you need a little professional help. #2: Join the military. Most people would simply say "Shut the fuck up and grow a sack"... and some guys can manage that... but it won't last. In a few years, you'll be bored again in college and be back where you are now. Also, gotta be completely honest here, I'm too much of a pussy to join the military. |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 651993)
My very strong advice to you is:
#2: Join the military. Instead of fucking around being a mindless slave for the government, fuck around and be a mindless slave for yourself. Just don't feel like shit about yourself, because regardless of what choices you make, those choices are all your own so be a manboy and own them. There's nothing wrong with having a wealthy background. Enjoy your life and if your parents have so much money they could retire many times over, enjoy their money too. That is, do it if they have no problem with you being a "man of leisure". Life won't necessarily get worse after high school. For me, it got a million times better. When you're done with school, why not do shit like travel the state, travel the country, travel the world, ride tigers, fuck bears, and mine lithium in Peru? |
When in your spot, I went to UNOH. It put me around pure automotive, and though it killed a few years of my life, it taught me how to study and enjoy school. Had it not been for the house fire, I'd still be working on my bachelors from the school.
Check it out, convince your parents its the way to go, and have a TON of fun while getting a 20 year head start on automotive knowledge. |
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652005)
This is some stupid advice. Why should you risk your life for someone else's agenda to fulfill their life's ambition when you don't even know what your own ambition is?
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i think he should just buy my camera and learn how to pwn noobs with it.
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What the hell does Angsty mean?
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 652012)
What the hell does Angsty mean?
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652005)
This is some stupid advice. Why should you risk your life for someone else's agenda to fulfill their life's ambition when you don't even know what your own ambition is?
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You should work to become the best Fry cook that McDonalds has ever had.
Dude you are 17. Being a teenager sucks for everyone. What you do not realize is that your life is 10x better then your parents was and most likely 100x better then your grandparents. You do no realize it because things are relative and you have no basis on how bad things can be. So relax a little and try to enjoy being young. Also get fucking A's in math and take as many math classes as you can. You might hate it, but it will make things easier later in life. |
Good chat rider, to recap...
Hobby Grades Girls Travel Some of my best memories from being your age are from the four above. In fact I don't remember much else. |
Your life is so easy it is boring and, you have no ambition brilliant. How about you totally divorce yourself from your parents money for a semester and realize how shitty real people have it and, own your life. Nothing is more character building than having bills to pay and, no matter how hard you work, you can never get ahead on them or get breathing room to relax. If this doesnt kill you maybe you will figure out what the fuck you want to do, if it does then maybe you where to soft anyway.
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Quit bitching. Get some vag. Just kidding man, but seriously, get some vag.
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Originally Posted by magnamx-5
(Post 652031)
your life is so easy it is boring and, you have no ambition brilliant. How about you totally divorce yourself from your parents money for a semester and realize how shitty real people have it and, own your life. Nothing is more character building than having bills to pay and, no matter how hard you work, you can never get ahead on them or get breathing room to relax. If this doesnt kill you maybe you will figure out what the fuck you want to do, if it does then maybe you where to soft anyway.
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You'll get over it brah. Best advice I can give is don't go into college with that attitude. You'll end up with a lot of time/money spent and nothing to show for it because you'll drop out. For now, enjoy your total absence of responsibility and abundance of free time. And since misery loves company, go find yourself some sad emo chick and have some good ol drunk sex a few days of the week.
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What a shocking post from someone who is 17.
Your brain is still growing, don't take everything so seriously and enjoy life. You'll have plenty of time to hate life later and actually have justification for it. Make no serious decisions about your future for a couple of years. Go get a whole pile of shitty jobs after high school, that will motivate you to get your shit together. Oh ya, get some vag and moar boost. |
The real question is why are you taking AP classes if you don't give a shit? Get some caffine, drink it, and do you fucking homework. I wish i did way better in high school because i dont want to be welding when im in my 50's. Instead i had to pay for my own school when the school would of if i had my shit together. Anyway, I have my AAS in welding and want to run a shop, however i need to go back to school and get some business classes. Most of the classes i took to finish my AAS all were 10x better than any high school class because it taught me so many invaluable skills that i otherwise would of never had.
I sometimes feel that way but some old timers i work with put shit in perspective. This one fella retired 3 months ago. Before he left, we talked about what i want in life. I want to retire in a forest with my own pond stocked full of fish with my future loving wife by my side. This is what i exist for, this is why i get up a 4am every day and get my ass to work. When i feel like you do i realize that its easier than shit to kill yourself, but i haven't done everything i want in life so i snap out of it and continue to make my life better and enrich people around me. Your young, buck up and plan what you want out of life, what are your interests that you could do for work, and for god sakes fuck as many women as possible. |
I miss high school, you should enjoy it while it last. Find a girl who wants to smash daily, that's all you really need. Oh ya, get drunk as much as possible and do fun shit.
Also read, "Alpha-Male" by Trey Rozzelle |
This thread needs more ass....
with that being said OP you need to get laid, I think that will solve a lot of your problems...Jay-Z's song seems to fit you perfect "I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one" |
Here's how I would handle your independent, but perhaps misdirected life. The first thing I would do is find some Xanax and then crush 2 pills into powder. After drinking 375 mL of wild turkey 101, snort the crushed Xanax like it was a 20 bag of coke. Now go do your homework, after the assignment is completed, get some sleep. The next morning you will have no memory of the previous evening. The fear and questioning will trigger slight adrenaline and you will gain motivation. Then your skirt will blow off exposing your ball sack, which also motivates you cause you'll be like, "hey yo! I do have a set of nuts!" then you'll continue pushing to accel towards whatever path your life is on.
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It's good that you try to make your own way, and not rely on your parents money. Remember that chick on youtube that threw a fit because her parents got her the wrong colored car for her birthday? Yeah, well it's cool that your not like that.
Like the guys have said, your young, don't get all twisted up about it. You'll find your "thing", and when you do, you'll be as motivated as hell. Have you done a track day yet? Subscribe to iracing, practice the shit out of you local track. Prep your car, and head out ready to dominate. When you realize how much you suck, we all do at first right? Then you might have something that will motivate you, learn to drive. Learn car set up, and aerodynamics. There is no end to the shit you could lean. If that don't work, go do a "ride out" with you local fire or police dept. They are easy to sign up for, just show up and schedule a ride out. Chose a busy area, you may find you like the rush. It's rewarding, exciting, and takes knowledge/skill and dedication to make it a career. |
Hey man, dont feel like your the only one that feels that way. Im sortof in the same boat.
I am very content with being at home by myself, spend time alone in comfort, work on my car in solitude. I only have one close friend and we dont ever see each other all that often mainly due to scedualing conflicts. He is the one person i can count on to help me when i need it and has done alot for me. I know you say that you dont like people but i encourage you to try and make some friends ( Oh and the saying, you are who you hang out with holds true. Generally, if you hang out with shity people you will be a shitty person. If you hang out with sucessful people you will be sucessful.) Im, 5 years older than you so the age difference is not all that huge and there is alot of thing I wish I could have done differntly at 17. For one, I wish i could go back and choose to not sleep with as many women as I did. The reason i say that is because I would much rather sleep with one woman many time than sleep with many women a couple times. The shit that i have done like that affects future relationships and did nothing for me emotionally but make things worse knowing how many girls i hurt. Most wemon dont want a man that has slept with more than one can count on their hands. I do think you should find a woman get close to that person and bang her fuckin brains out. Just dont start out on the wrong foot and bang a bunch of bitces. Choose wisely. lol You have alot to look forward to man even though to you the future doesnt seem to bright. Lifes a garden, dig it! You mentioned reading the thread that i made a while back. Im glad that you say it makes you feel better about your situation. Im still haveing problems and still have a seious lack of motivation, but things seriously do get better with time. Slowly but surely things are getting brighter for me so dont for one second feel like things only get worse. Only you can determine your own happieness. You just gotta kick yourself in the ass and make yourself get up and accomplish things. |
I had a similar problem and I went to see "Naked Dave". He said, "you try breakin bottles behind Wa-Wa?" I'm like, "what the fuck is that gonna do?" Then he tells me to dig some holes, burn some wood. I asked him how far I should dig? What do I while the wood is burning? It just didn't make sense to me. He said, "you gotta look at life...it's all about freedom...you ever felt a cold breeze blow against your cock and balls? Now that's freedom."
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Thirdgen is on a roll, I like it.
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You on any medication man?
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feels good bro
But seriously, I used to feel the same way and I can only tell you what worked for me. Go to college, join a good fraternity, smash hoes, become involved on campus, smash hoes, go on road trips, smash hoes, get your stomach pumped after getting a little too loose during homecoming week, smash hoes a couple days later, epic spring break adventures, smash hoes, study abroad, smash hoes. Do you see a trend here? |
Originally Posted by WonTon
(Post 652076)
Hey man, dont feel like your the only one that feels that way. Im sortof in the same boat.
I am very content with being at home by myself, spend time alone in comfort, work on my car in solitude. I only have one close friend and we dont ever see each other all that often mainly due to scedualing conflicts. He is the one person i can count on to help me when i need it and has done alot for me. I know you say that you dont like people but i encourage you to try and make some friends ( Oh and the saying, you are who you hang out with holds true. Generally, if you hang out with shity people you will be a shitty person. If you hang out with sucessful people you will be sucessful.) Im, 5 years older than you so the age difference is not all that huge and there is alot of thing I wish I could have done differntly at 17. For one, I wish i could go back and choose to not sleep with as many women as I did. The reason i say that is because I would much rather sleep with one woman many time than sleep with many women a couple times. The shit that i have done like that affects future relationships and did nothing for me emotionally but make things worse knowing how many girls i hurt. Most wemon dont want a man that has slept with more than one can count on their hands. I do think you should find a woman get close to that person and bang her fuckin brains out. Just dont start out on the wrong foot and bang a bunch of bitces. Choose wisely. lol You have alot to look forward to man even though to you the future doesnt seem to bright. Lifes a garden, dig it! You mentioned reading the thread that i made a while back. Im glad that you say it makes you feel better about your situation. Im still haveing problems and still have a seious lack of motivation, but things seriously do get better with time. Slowly but surely things are getting brighter for me so dont for one second feel like things only get worse. Only you can determine your own happieness. You just gotta kick yourself in the ass and make yourself get up and accomplish things. |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 651993)
Most people would simply say "Shut the fuck up and grow a sack"... and some guys can manage that... but it won't last. In a few years, you'll be bored again in college and be back where you are now.
One day we will be forced to actually believe in shit again. Sigh. We are so fucked. |
We should be friends rider
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OP,
I'm 9 years your senior, god that sounds awful to me, I'm an old man now! First off, it sounds like you have a classic case of "I don't know what I wanna be when I grow up".....don't panic, because I don't know what I want to be when I grow up either. Sounds like you are severely lacking in the personal motivation department. What motivations to do you have to succeed? None? What do you strive to accomplish by the end of your high school career? Will you be waiting tables at a restaurant? At your current rate, it sounds like you may be. Why don't we set some goals so we have something to be motivated toward? Rider, there are two personal assessments that I want you to take: "Strong Interest Inventory" "Myers-Briggs Type Indicator" Ask your guidance counselor at school about them. These will help you to set long term life goals. They can't set them for you, but they'll help you figure out which goals to set. If your guidance counselor can't hook you up, you'll probably have to pay for the assessments, but the $40 or so that it may cost you is only pennies compared to what these can do for you. Don't shun your parent's money either if they want to pay for this. Your parents probably worked pretty hard their whole life for the sole purpose of making a better life for YOU. If your parents try to give you something, it's because intrinsically it makes them feel really good about themselves. The Strong Interest Inventory will indicate to you the career fields that your personality can succeed at. It will tell you "what careers will I enjoy?" The meyers-briggs type indicator will give you an image of how your personality is laid out that you can use to determine the career fields that you will excell at. It will tell you "what careers will I be good at?" Take both of these assessments, cross them with each other, and find the career fields (if any) that both assessments point you to. Remember, if you don't know where you are headed, any path will take you there. Maybe they will tell you to wait tables at applebees for the rest of your life, maybe they'll tell you to be a neurosurgeon, maybe, maybe, maybe, but you'll never know if you don't try. Rider, don't discount the Military. I feel like it was the best decision I ever made. It will teach you responsibility, accountability, pride, work ethic, motivation, etc., etc. It's also easier to pick a career path in the military when they put a relatively short list of every conceivable option in front of you. My gf had no idea what she wanted to do with her life until I told her to take these assessments a few weeks back - she had no idea what classes to take, didn't really want to go to college, but did so at the urging of her parents, etc., etc. Both of the assessments pointed her toward the medical field. Now she is seriously looking into nursing and she gets crazy excited talking about it. She's also researching other medical fields because she's excited about doing it, not because she thinks she has to. She didn't know diddly squat about the medical field just a couple weeks ago. |
Originally Posted by JayL
(Post 652019)
If you never try anything or search outside of the obvious you're destined to go nowhere. Mediocre is a lifestyle that too many embrace and is only overcome by challenging ones self to be better.
qft Rider...just keep moving. Here is my personal favorite "self help" quote for this year: If we don't change, we don't grow. If we don't grow, we aren't really living. ~ Gail Sheehy Continue to make changes in your life. They won't always be the right direction...but you learn from them...and most importantly you continue to grow from either those hard-learned lessons, or the success you meet by making the right decisions. I've run into more than a few people recently that feel the way you do...some young...some old. I think a lot of it has to do with the times as I started feeling this way when the economy was going south and the political landscape looked like a field of cow patties. Two years out things still suck...but I sure as hell know what I'm doing today, and where I'm trying to go tomorrow. Challenge yourself by making hard decisions which you know will require real effort to make work. Don't regret having done so or get depressed when you fail. Simply note what you did wrong and move on....to something else. Just keep moving, keep making changes, and you'll keep growing. You will NEVER be content with life if you don't continue to grow as a person. You are however very likely to end up somewhere you really like by never giving up on that personal growth....ever. |
I'll miss the sea, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens.
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Originally Posted by JayL
(Post 652019)
If you never try anything or search outside of the obvious you're destined to go nowhere. Mediocre is a lifestyle that too many embrace and is only overcome by challenging ones self to be better.
There's an infinite number of ways to challenge yourself other than joining the military. |
Actually fuck it, you're rich, so just take up a drug habit. And stop shopping at wal mart you poser. You're more annoying than ghetto people shopping at nordstroms.
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And fucking kill yourself. There's too many stupid people on the planet already who don't even know what the fuck they are doing here and why.
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Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 651993)
About 20% of the guys I supervise in the Navy joined up for exactly the reasons you're talking about. For whatever reason, life has never been a challenge and they're bored. You have the advantage of having "means" which most of the guys I supervise don't have.
My very strong advice to you is: #1: Get some counseling. Seriously, you need a little professional help. #2: Join the military. Most people would simply say "Shut the fuck up and grow a sack"... and some guys can manage that... but it won't last. In a few years, you'll be bored again in college and be back where you are now. Therapists are cheap and you don't have to be crazy to go to one. They often work on a sliding scale (if you dont have money, they charge very little). You could also stir life up. You know how to live cheaply... drop everything and move to a foreign country for 6 months for shits and giggles. |
Originally Posted by y8s
(Post 652152)
I think this thread ended at post 5.
Therapists are cheap and you don't have to be crazy to go to one. They often work on a sliding scale (if you dont have money, they charge very little). You could also stir life up. You know how to live cheaply... drop everything and move to a foreign country for 6 months for shits and giggles. Traveling isn't always the best answer. I've done a lot of traveling, studied abroad, etc. In a seminar I recently spoke at, I urged study abroad prospects to search within themselves for the real reason they're pursuing such a drastic, albeit temporary, change. I STRONGLY discourage students looking to become social butterflies, make their first-ever friend, etc. to participate in such a program because it won't change you. Lifestyle changes can be made at home, unless your home is a meth lab (if it is though, invite me over). Finding what interests you can be difficult though. I'm 22 and still don't know what I'm going to do with the shitty degree I'm slated to be awarded this spring. Are you a senior? Do you have any college plans? |
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652145)
The obvious like-- joining the military?
There's an infinite number of ways to challenge yourself other than joining the military. It's very clear that the military wasn't for you, it's not for everyone and I'm sure you have your reasons or maybe we didn't want you. In order for you to make that decision you had to give it consideration. We are just throwing ideas in his direction and he needs to decide what's best for him. |
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652148)
Actually fuck it, you're rich, so just take up a drug habit. And stop shopping at wal mart you poser. You're more annoying than ghetto people shopping at nordstroms.
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652150)
And fucking kill yourself. There's too many stupid people on the planet already who don't even know what the fuck they are doing here and why.
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OP, like many of the serious responses said, you're still young and it's a normal thing to feel as a teenager.
First, I'd suggest telling your folks that you'd like to start seeing a therapist. Someone qualified to listen to you, to ask the right questions. If it doesn't seem right after a few sessions, switch therapists. Keep an open mind. I was a slacker from Jr High throughout college. I did feel challenged in many courses, but had no drive. It wasn't until I was in my late 30s (maybe 38?) that I saw a therapist for maybe 6-10 sessions that I worked on my procrastination and made great improvements in my life. Sheesh, if I only did this at 17! So, basically hang in there, open lines of communication w/ your folks, be honest, see a therapist, get better. Oh, and get a haircut, take out those piercings, don't get a tattoo b/c you'll regret it, stop drinking sodas and junk food, sit up straight, go to college, study, get some goals, enjoy life. Nothing worse than living paycheck-to-paycheck. Don't get stuck in a rut w/ friends that have no goals or aspirations. I'm not saying you gotta be an astronaut, but just work hard and try to learn something in college. The sciences (esp computer-related) and business are a good combo. If you were to go finance and IT, you'll have a better shot of a good job out of college. This means you can afford nice toys (that you bought), nice trips, and hot wimmen (or boy toys like Hustler). |
Originally Posted by Pusha
(Post 652160)
While therapy is "cheap," there's always the possibility for it to become a crutch or for the patient to become another overly medicated asshole.
I'm suggesting only the talking kind. The kind that are a neutral sounding board for your issues or thoughts. |
Do one good track day. You'll find out that you need a fuckton more shit in your car but don't have the money. This will motivate you to start looking for a way to make tons of money to spend to fulfill you need for speed. No shit.
I was the same way in school. No care for the future, overwhelmed by my teaches constantly pounding "college college college" into our heads and not having any fucking cluse to what I want to do. I thought I'd want to work on cars since it was easy for me, but when I got out into the real world and worked at a couple of dealership, I realized it was shitty work with too much politics. I still don't mind working on car from a performance standpoint, but it's NOT what I am going to do with my life. I've worked jobs from fast food to warehousing (good money can be found here) to computer work and even composites (working on race cars is fun!). Sometime in my junior year, I just gave up and got my GED. Here it is 10 years later and I am just now finding things to go to school that would interest me. When I get bored or just get tired of having nothing to do, I'll go out for a drive and it's not unusual for me to put 300 miles on my odometer in a night of aimless driving. |
faeflora, you are one cheery bastard, ain't ya? lol
It seems like fae went through some of his own shit, dealt with it and now thinks that since he can do it his way, everyone can. Not knocking ya, but not everyone can live the east coast 'suck mommy and daddy's cock' life style. Some people want more. Rider, bro, I've been there, and I've done all sorts of many different things to cure the boredom that I had. FYI, though, everyone gets that way. You find something that makes you happy, or you find a way to it. If that something is to make your own way, look at ways to do that. I joined the military and now it's almost 6 years later and it's done many things. Some good, some bad, but I joined for my own reason; making my own way. I'm not going to say that the military is the only way to go, and that's because it's not. There is benefits as well as disadvantages, just like everything else in this world. The pay is shitty for a while, but you end up with really good friends going through the same shit you are. You go to places that smell like cat piss, but it puts your life in perspective. You can get shot at, but chicks dig scars. If you want to go to college, then go. You can get some great excitement out of that, too. Use your parents dime if you have to. Hell, go to a school on the west coast and see how the chilled out people over there live. The only real advice I can give you (everything else you can throw away) is; DON'T FUCKING FALL IN LOVE Just don't |
School was easy. And it was boring. I never did much homework but did well enough on the tests to get a "C." I wasn't motivated all through college either. I majored in cars and girls. I wasn't a bad kid but I didn't have a work ethic. I wasn't motivated in school because I didn't have any idea what I wanted to do with my life. It is hard to push yourself when there is no concrete goal, just some nebulous concept, like chasing vapor.
I avoided discomfort. Homework was discomfort. Work, in general terms, was discomfort. I worked hard on my car, but that was different. The car brought me a sense of accomplishment. I would search for information for my car hobby, but not for boring school work. I had wants, but my needs were met and I only worked a job for my car hobby and screwing around money. I graduated college still not knowing what I wanted to do. That was typical for about half of the people I went to school with. Many either didn't know what they wanted to do or really didn't understand what their real job in their field would be like. In many fields people entered into it was just important to have a degree. It didn't matter what the major was. People with Bachelor of Arts degrees often have that problem. People who obtain a degree in a physical science (chem, physics, engineering, etc.) usually get paid better because they know a little more about things that are useful to employers. I wasn't disciplined enough to be ready for college. I wasn't adult enough and didn't have the necessary experience to cause me to place value on being there. I played around, did the fraternity thing, and just got by. I think a short enlistment in the military would have brought me a sense of self-worth, some self-discipline, and an understanding of why I needed to push myself with regard to education. I didn't develop a work ethic until after college. After a brief couple of months in training I had the keys to a business thrown to me and was told "this place is yours and these 28 people work for you." I had adults who were my parents' age who were depending on me to be a good manager so that they could pay their rent/mortgage and feed their families. Sink or swim, it was all on my shoulders. At that point, I grew up. I had to. Everyone who has "grown up" has had a moment like that. Some of them had it at eight years old when a parent died. Some don't have it until they are 35 and their parents finally kicked them out on their own. Some never find it. I think you find it when the chips are down and your only resource is yourself. Is the military a good idea? It is for some and it isn't for others. It would have been good for me. Thinking about it, the military was good for my father. He did a year of college then dropped out and joined the Army. After the Army he went back to school and excelled. Frankly, I think most young men don't really need the military, but they could really benefit from going through Basic Training and learning their true capabilities and finding their deeper strength. Self-worth comes from accomplishing something that requires effort. That is why doing something to improve our cars makes us proud. We feel good about accomplishing something with real, tangible value. Team or individual sports fill that need for many people. Joining a "high adventure" group (like a SCUBA club, or outdoor adventure group) can physically and mentally challenge you in new ways that you might not have considered possible. Easy times don't teach us anything. We will just keep doing what we have been doing. Tough times change us, mold us, and make us better. Tough times also cause an appreciation for ordinary times that we would not otherwise have. Having a brain tumor removed caused me to appreciate uneventful, boring days in a way I could not have previously understood. Perspective changes with experience. And it is called wisdom. Don't be worried that it feels like you are swimming in grape jelly. Punch, kick, fight, swim with all your might and it seems that you have no real impact on your surroundings. That is normal. It feels like it sucks, but it is normal. It really doesn't suck. You are just mildly insulated, protected. Real suck is out there. Don't worry about trying to get there too quickly. It will find you in due time. You will long to return to your ineffectual insulation soon enough. You will tell yourself "If I only knew then what I know now." But right now you are at a point when many young men are frustrated by their insulation and they act out, or hurt themselves just to feel something. That is a mental trap. Please don't fall in it. Perspective and understanding will come with time. It is obvious that you are a good guy. And as uncomforting and completely useless as it is to you, know that what you are feeling is quite normal and healthy. If you don't do anything foolish to get in trouble or hurt yourself before you are old enough to be on to the next set of problems, you will be just fine. I would recommend getting into clubs, sports, and activities because those things exercise your mind, body, and make you a more well-rounded adult. They will increase the knowledge and experience base that you will draw on throughout your life. I'm sure there are clubs and activities going on in and around your school that you aren't even familiar with. I do look back on those things from my school days with pride. There is something special you are supposed to do in your life. You should probably start getting ready for it. |
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652150)
And fucking kill yourself. There's too many stupid people on the planet already who don't even know what the fuck they are doing here and why.
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Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652150)
And fucking kill yourself. There's too many stupid people on the planet already who don't even know what the fuck they are doing here and why.
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[QUOTE=faeflora;652005]This is some stupid advice. Why should you risk your life for someone else's agenda to fulfill their life's ambition when you don't even know what your own ambition is?
Here is a view from africa..and my :2cents: 1)I am completely fucked sideways about why you as Americans cant be proud of youre country and stand up and fight for it,where has all the goodmen gone?I've been in the states twice now and also a couple of other places,but whether you guys like it or not you HAVE the position as PEACEKEEPER of the world and gives out spankings to al the "...stani" countries,but lately I've seen a total PUSSY plague hit youre young men,and dont know why?:facepalm: Dude as Samnavy said,and you yourself said...."Youve never found something chalenging in life",well I'll bet you the millitary will rock youre world,GIVE you a sack,and straighten all youre shit out!:idea: I KNOW THE FEELING OF FINDING NOTHING CHALLENGING.....I JUST FINISHED LAW SCHOOL AND TILL THIS DAY HAVE NEVER STUDIED MORE THAN 12HOURS FOR ANY THING......:jerkit: Our millitary is FUCKED AND CORRUPT,I even offered my services to youre country and the royal marines but due to my country of origin (south africa) couldnt get in,went boxing instead,and I either got the shit knocked out of me or the boxing helped me to sort the shit! :fawk: But please for the sake of boost and mother theresa dont be a pussy,man up,get youre cock out of its twist,get laid,and join something like the millitary that will shake you to youre core and make u understand the value and gift of a human life....:vash: and always remember only 2 things in life that counts.... TITS AND TIRES!:bowrofl: |
Originally Posted by rider384
(Post 652003)
...Also, gotta be completely honest here, I'm too much of a pussy to join the military.
Originally Posted by faeflora
(Post 652005)
This is some stupid advice. Why should you risk your life for someone else's agenda to fulfill their life's ambition when you don't even know what your own ambition is?
Instead of fucking around being a mindless slave for the government, fuck around and be a mindless slave for yourself... OP - I was in your shoes at the end of high school. My dad makes boatloads of money selling equipment he used to design as a ME, and I had zero clue what I wanted to do in college. I went to a local community college and took some classes, held some service jobs (waiter, cashier, tire installer, tire salesman) and felt like I was going nowhere fast. I went to a school in Jax for college prep/USMC JROTC/aviation so I had some exposure to militaryesque training already, but that wasn't much of a factor. One day my recruiter walked in to my shop (was in tire sales at that time) and before I knew it I'd signed on as an intelligence analyst in the Army. Pretty good promotion, at least in title, from salesman to intelligence analyst, wouldn't you say? I took my time with the recruiter, though, and made sure to come in as an E3, and to secure a job I'd like. I had been looking at light wheel mechanic, but after I learned what that job really entailed I decided intel was more my speed. Basic and AIT were a breeze (in hindsight anyway) and I did my first tour at Fort Gordon. After a couple years I decided being an analyst was boring and saw my career counselor for a crack at the DLAB and passed, so the Army sent me to school to learn Arabic and I passed, and now I like my job much better. The military is a good choice if you want to prove yourself independently of any advantage you may feel your parents are giving you. There is always opportunity to improve yourself, to move up, to see the world (heh.), etc. And if you don't like it, when your time is up, get out and go back into the job market with the tools the military has given you! I'm looking at getting out after my new contract is up (just reenlisted for 30k) and I'll be looking at jobs making around 4x what I'm pulling in now. |
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Originally Posted by magnamx-5
(Post 652086)
Despite all the tattoos and drinking wonton is not a bad role model. He is certianly a cool and up front person.
I try to be a good rolemodle. lol |
Everybody has a different opinion about the military. When I was 20 I was on my second full time job and I wasn't seein my life going in a positive direction. I enlisted in the marines. I passed my physical and my MEPS (I think it was called) test. They didn't let me in because they didn't like my post 9/11 views. My attitude towards the military? fuck those jerk offs. I was born on this soil and I'm not allowed to use my precise shooting talent to place bullets between the heads of the enemy? Then again, who really is the enemy? Our own government? The Taliban? I'd love to know...maybe the majority of America voted for him. Doesn't matter much though, since nobody votes for any good reason anymore. It might as well be American idol. Let's vote for who can sing and dance the best.
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Originally Posted by fooger03
(Post 652186)
You've obviously never taken the issue of depression and suicide seriously. If OPs next post is a suicide note, the rest of us are going to hold you responsible. Depression and Suicide are very real threats. That is probably why so many people that are trying to help the OP are pro-military-option; a lot of us actually are military. Every person in the military understands the very real threat of suicide, and (at least as far as the Army is concerned) has been trained to recognize the signs and symptoms of depression which can lead to suicidal thoughts and tendancies, as well as what actions to take to avoid suicidal ideation and action. We aren't telling the OP that he absolutely has to join the military, we are telling him not to discount it as a viable option. We are also trying to provide for the creation of goals (whether military or not) which can lead to a more fulfilling life. If you have nothing positive to add to this thread, please consider leaving it alone. Even if your posts were written jokingly or sarcastically, they are out of line with regard to the conversation.
All you military hooah dipshits are just dumb pawns. I'll have you know that I've made thousands of dollars off "the troop's" sweat and blood while selling shit that will never be used to your bloated fatass granddaddy DOD. The milk sack of government waste is quite bountiful and when your comrades die at the hands of some confused stone age jawa who wipes their ass with their bare hand, other people are getting rich. That said, what I really think is that it doesn't matter what you do in life as long as you own your actions and the consequences of your actions. Be happy with your choices in each moment because that's all you've got. Do that and you'll have my respect. Regardless of if you are military or gay or a fucked up squirtle. |
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