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Old 05-01-2014, 07:37 PM   #21
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BMW M5 ?
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:10 PM   #24
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The CTS-V is too damn ugly to be charismatic. Holy **** that thing is ugly!
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:50 PM   #25
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I think the CTS-V wagon will become a classic. Design is something personal, and so many people need to see something 1000 times before they like it, and then it is the best.

I think the McLaren F1 is a good example. It is not really an attractive car (that engine bay though...), but people have come to espouse it as a great looking car.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #26
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I admit, haven't looked at the B8 S4.

Mainly because I've never driven an Audi that didn't plow, given that the S4 is still AWD on a fwd designed chassis I'd be interested in if that could change, especially since it has less of a rear bias than the STI that I drove.

Apparently Audi went to some great lengths on that. Fairly insane/typical Euro stuff like timing chain on the firewall/transmission side of the engine, changes to how TQ gets delivered, etc. The talking heads all agreed that it was a major improvement. I think Audi understands it needs to have some perception of real sportiness to keep eroding MB and BMW market share.
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Nothing American on the list, seriously OP?

300c (srt8 versions), charger (srt8 versions), CTSv, ecoboost Taurus, SS, G8.
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Nothing American on the list, seriously OP?

300c (srt8 versions), charger (srt8 versions), CTSv, ecoboost Taurus, SS, G8.
300C, Charger SRT-8: Old Mercedes E class with shitty interior, horrible suspension and old transmissions, when I last tried them.

Taurus SHO: Drove it. Bad/decent interior that's poorly utilized (huge thing between the front two seats, why?), uninspiring dynamics, very very FWD biased AWD. Plow city. Automatic.

SS/G8: Eh interior, finding a manual GXP is akin to a unicorn so I haven't driven one.

CTS-V: Very, very interesting. A manual wagon would be about everything I want in a car. Was pushed away due to the normal CTS I checked out, but it would only be right to give this a drive. Thanks!
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LS swap Volvo 240 :-)
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SS/G8: Eh interior, finding a manual GXP is akin to a unicorn so I haven't driven one.
Doesn't the SS have a completely different interior than the GXP. Since they are only shipping over fully loaded models all of the pictures I have seen have had very nice interiors with soft leather everywhere. I will admit I have never seen one in person so maybe it is underwhelming in real life.
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Either the CTS-V Wagon, the C63, or (since this is a "company car") see if you can find someone (a fleet sales place) who will sell you a Caprice PPV. It's a G8 with a better transmission controller, heavier duty parts, and a FlexFuel V8.

Or you can try to find that G8 GXP hen's tooth. This comments about the autobahn in this thread remind me of this:
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Rx8.
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Rx8 is sitting in the driveway (roomate's car I steered him towards).

Great, wonderful car. Beautiful transmission. Roomy rear seat. Good for daily driving. Less so for cross country though. Just drove it, and will again tonight. What a compelling vehicle.
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Top Gear was really impressed with the RX8. I haven't been able to drive one, but I've been in love with rotary engines since I was a teen. It put the same time on their course as the BMW M3, and IIRC, they all said they'd rather have the RX8 than the M3.
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Top Gear was really impressed with the RX8. I haven't been able to drive one, but I've been in love with rotary engines since I was a teen. It put the same time on their course as the BMW M3, and IIRC, they all said they'd rather have the RX8 than the M3.
NWIH the RX-8 put the same time as the M3. Nope.

It's been years since I drove an RX-8 but I was very, very disappointed. Yes it has great steering feel and is very tight, but there's no torque, and it really doesn't pull all that hard on the top end either.

I'd take an S2k over an RX-8 at any moment. Course... S2k's are more expensive. I'd sooner pay more for an S2k than an RX-8 at any moment
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RX-8: Great car, shitty engine.

A customer is dropping a 2JZ in one and will run an MS3 on it. Should be fun.
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What ever happened to the guy here who was going to swap an Izuzu V6 into his RX-8? I'd like to see that one.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:00 PM   #38
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So the answer to the thread is: VX8

Honestly that's the answer to a lot of questions.

Edit: I want to see some Masochist swap a 13B into a Camaro.

Edit: Hell, 2 of them end to end so it's sort of like a 4 cylinder.
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Pretty sure this was figured out three years ago...

https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...p-425tq-58420/

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Originally Posted by The Stig's Lap Times on Top Gear
50 Porsche 911 Turbo 1.31.0
51 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo 1.31.3
52 Honda NSX Type-R 1.31.6
53 BMW 535d 1.31.8
54 Mazda RX8 1.31.8
55 Nissan 350Z 1.31.8
56 BMW M3 1.31.8
57 BMW 130 1.31.9
58 Ford Focus RS 1.32.2
59 Audi TT V6 1.32.7
60 Jaguar E-Type 1.32.8
61 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG 1.33.2
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