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And all it took was disconnecting the wastegate/bov, removing the ms, and putting most of the stock shit back in :jerkit:

freak that bitch out den Tone.

You most surely have the balls in the ass and the dick in the pussy.

This is why I will stay pre 1996, OBD2 FTL.

nasty ass bitch.

meh, getting it to pass the sniffer test seems to be just as much if not more of a hassle.

:laugh: fuuu i forgot all about that vid

Body Style: Sedan makes me lolz.

One of the many nice things about NC, pre 1996 only require a safety inspection. In some counties all cars only require a safety inspection.

lol @ title change

That would be nice. Here its ob2 gets computer test, pre-obd2 gets the sniffer and >25yo stuff gets nothing (maybe a safety inspection but i forget).

That's why I bought a 94. Knew I wanted to go turbo when I bought it. Didn't want to deal with crap like that. Passed sniffer easily with mspnp, 550's, begi s4 system, high flow cat, enthuza exhaust.

I'm starting to lean towards OBD-II myself. So long as you make your wiring harness plug-n-play, it doesn't seem that hard to swap the computer and injectors back to stock every other year. In CA, by contrast, they're starting to tighten up the numbers for the pre OBD-II cars. My last test there I passed, but not by a huge margin on NO, and that was with a 2 year old CARB-approved cat.

how can they retroactively change the emissions figures?

My understanding is that with more powerful, and better cracked, ECUs, such as those in GM and Ford vehicles (think Mustang/Corvette) can be tampered with such that you can set values to be whatever you want (within reason), allowing for significant tunability, while maintaining OBD II compliance without having to undo anything, and without throwing CELs all the time. That said, I don't have one of these vehicles and therefore am speaking mostly from what I've learned via friends that do. My friend with a new Mustang can adjust maps at will, using only a $300 tuner thingy.

At that point (OBD II where you can set parameters) becomes a benefit more than a drawback, as the car will do diagnostics for you.

Not living in CA, I see the retroactive tightening of emissions standards as a great way to get cheap cars/parts elsewhere as people give up on them. :D If I was in CA, I'd be up in arms, though.

It's very easy. First they enact a regulation saying they can retroactively change emissions figures, then they change the emissions figures. It also seems like pre-OBDII cars are increasingly being directed to test-only stations, which makes me wonder if they plan to eliminate the requirement for the test-and-repair places to have the rollers.

You gotta live in CA for a while to appreciate all of this I expect.

My dad spent a solid chunk of his life searching for cars built before 1965 so they were smog exempt. This was prior to the 25 year rolling exemption for classic cars.

The emissions requirements dont prohibit the pre OBDII cars, but they do force you to keep them in good repair emissions-wise.

I'm going to be pissed when I have to smog my truck in 2010. :vash:

Smog laws here in Cali suck....

No inspections of any kind at all here. One of only two things that doesn't suck about this state and I forgot what the other one was.

Ditto Florida. I was really surprised that when I brought my car into the state and registered it, they didn't so much as look at it, much less verify that the brakes and lights worked.

That being said, I despise Florida and can't wait to move back out to So Cal.

What's Florida missing beside lots of signs in Spanish and In-N-Out burger?

Well, it's both what it's missing, and what it's got.

What we have is oppressive heat & humidity. More insects per cubic foot than 'Nam. Old people and rednecks who can't drive and don't understand the concept of slower traffic keep right. More LEOs per capita than East Berlin, and they've all got nothing better do than run speed traps. Roads that are straighter and flatter than anything you can imagine and yet still have 30-40 MPH speed limits.

What we are missing is diversity of terrain- mountains, seven different kinds of desert, that sort of thing. Here, it's all just a continuous mix of swamp & heavy woods. We're missing serious race shops. We're missing business and industry in general. We're missing Palomar Mountain and the canyons of Julian. We're missing fish tacos and Fry's.

Swap what?

I dont swap shit and have passed every time.

I don't know what I would do if they enacted shit like that in Florida. Probably hurry up and sell my car before the regulations took place and purchase a Honda Fit or some other reasonable car.

me 2

jack n the box at leaste where I live.... and more english signs lolz

Florida gets invaded annually with slutty college chicks on spring break. This is essentially a second Christmas. Quit your bitchin'.

but they only drink miller lite and that makes joe more limp than a one legged pimp.

Joe's problem, not mine...

Ship down some Dogfish 120 minute IPA and everybody wins. :brain: