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Old 07-11-2009, 01:38 PM   #1
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And all it took was disconnecting the wastegate/bov, removing the ms, and putting most of the stock **** back in
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You most surely have the ***** in the *** and the dick in the *****.
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This is why I will stay pre 1996, OBD2 FTL.
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This is why I will stay pre 1996, OBD2 FTL.
meh, getting it to pass the sniffer test seems to be just as much if not more of a hassle.
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meh, getting it to pass the sniffer test seems to be just as much if not more of a hassle.
One of the many nice things about NC, pre 1996 only require a safety inspection. In some counties all cars only require a safety inspection.
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One of the many nice things about NC, pre 1996 only require a safety inspection. In some counties all cars only require a safety inspection.
That would be nice. Here its ob2 gets computer test, pre-obd2 gets the sniffer and >25yo stuff gets nothing (maybe a safety inspection but i forget).
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That's why I bought a 94. Knew I wanted to go turbo when I bought it. Didn't want to deal with crap like that. Passed sniffer easily with mspnp, 550's, begi s4 system, high flow cat, enthuza exhaust.
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I'm starting to lean towards OBD-II myself. So long as you make your wiring harness plug-n-play, it doesn't seem that hard to swap the computer and injectors back to stock every other year. In CA, by contrast, they're starting to tighten up the numbers for the pre OBD-II cars. My last test there I passed, but not by a huge margin on NO, and that was with a 2 year old CARB-approved cat.
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I'm starting to lean towards OBD-II myself. So long as you make your wiring harness plug-n-play, it doesn't seem that hard to swap the computer and injectors back to stock every other year. In CA, by contrast, they're starting to tighten up the numbers for the pre OBD-II cars. My last test there I passed, but not by a huge margin on NO, and that was with a 2 year old CARB-approved cat.
how can they retroactively change the emissions figures?
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I'm starting to lean towards OBD-II myself. So long as you make your wiring harness plug-n-play, it doesn't seem that hard to swap the computer and injectors back to stock every other year. In CA, by contrast, they're starting to tighten up the numbers for the pre OBD-II cars. My last test there I passed, but not by a huge margin on NO, and that was with a 2 year old CARB-approved cat.
My understanding is that with more powerful, and better cracked, ECUs, such as those in GM and Ford vehicles (think Mustang/Corvette) can be tampered with such that you can set values to be whatever you want (within reason), allowing for significant tunability, while maintaining OBD II compliance without having to undo anything, and without throwing CELs all the time. That said, I don't have one of these vehicles and therefore am speaking mostly from what I've learned via friends that do. My friend with a new Mustang can adjust maps at will, using only a $300 tuner thingy.

At that point (OBD II where you can set parameters) becomes a benefit more than a drawback, as the car will do diagnostics for you.

Not living in CA, I see the retroactive tightening of emissions standards as a great way to get cheap cars/parts elsewhere as people give up on them. If I was in CA, I'd be up in arms, though.
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how can they retroactively change the emissions figures?
It's very easy. First they enact a regulation saying they can retroactively change emissions figures, then they change the emissions figures. It also seems like pre-OBDII cars are increasingly being directed to test-only stations, which makes me wonder if they plan to eliminate the requirement for the test-and-repair places to have the rollers.

You gotta live in CA for a while to appreciate all of this I expect.
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It's very easy. First they enact a regulation saying they can retroactively change emissions figures, then they change the emissions figures. It also seems like pre-OBDII cars are increasingly being directed to test-only stations, which makes me wonder if they plan to eliminate the requirement for the test-and-repair places to have the rollers.

You gotta live in CA for a while to appreciate all of this I expect.
My dad spent a solid chunk of his life searching for cars built before 1965 so they were smog exempt. This was prior to the 25 year rolling exemption for classic cars.

The emissions requirements dont prohibit the pre OBDII cars, but they do force you to keep them in good repair emissions-wise.
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I'm going to be pissed when I have to smog my truck in 2010.
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Smog laws here in Cali suck....
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