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Old 03-01-2008, 01:22 AM   #1
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Talking blowing flames

Well, i run a hydra and my car occasionally does a nice afterfire on high rpm upshifts and occasionally when i bounce on the rpm limit and sometimes even shoots a little bitty flame

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i want to be able to do it at will when moving as a sort of **** you to tailgaters or to try to get hot or "hot" cars to race me or just to show off and scare soccer moms.

Does anyone know how to cut spark independantly of fuel when hitting rev limit with hydra or some other way to reliably make my car more consistently afterfire? would making increasing fuel on the load cells touched between shifts do it?

i've considered flat shift but that seems kinda destructive and i want my pretty turbo to last..

i know this sounds stupid but the kapow makes me happy
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:43 AM   #2
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Run a open exhaust with 9:1 on your AF/R and you will get 9 MPG with alot of people pissed off.
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And Dont Drive Near Me When I Visit Columbia...
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or you can just buy a flame thrower kit...or make your own its really not that hard...
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This is what you need unless you want to fry lots of parts.
Spit-Fire Show Injected Flame setup

Older cars with carbs used to just pull the manual choke, hit the gas, & fllip a switch to power up a spark plug mounted at the exaust tip.

The above "Show" kit will work on FI cars, or bikes.

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fae: do you have a massive exhaust leak after your turbo?
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fae: do you have a massive exhaust leak after your turbo?
hmm? i have a little exhaust leak somewhere actually... need to fix that next time car is in air. it's probably the wg pipe to downpipe connection.

i don't want a flame kit, that's a little lame...
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2-step with only spark cut will handle that.
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that leak is your backfire
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Bee*R rev limiter,biggest flames and loudest backfires.
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that leak is your backfire
OK so you are saying that my leak is comprimising my backfire since the precious fuel laden exhaust is going out the wrong hole? i gues i would backfire more if fixed my leakk....
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Bee*R rev limiter,biggest flames and loudest backfires.
very amusing! i would feel stupid buying this since i already have a $2000 ems :( :( :( maybe i should sell it and buy a MS
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OK so you are saying that my leak is comprimising my backfire since the precious fuel laden exhaust is going out the wrong hole? i gues i would backfire more if fixed my leakk....
no i'm saying the leak is causing your backfire.

when you shift, there's a brief period where unburnt fuel goes into the exhaust but since it's starved for oxygen upon leaving the motor, it normally just passes through.

if you have a leak in the exhaust, that unburnt fuel gets a big fat blast of O2 and ignites. bam.
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I don't know if you can do that with a hydra or not, but when you get to rev limiter have it cut the spark and still leave the injectors on, that'll dump a bunch of fuel in the exhaust and shoot flames.


But my bee*r limiter indeed does some nice backfires.
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very amusing! i would feel stupid buying this since i already have a $2000 ems :( :( :( maybe i should sell it and buy a MS
I was not trying to be funny,I was trying to help you out!

Since you wanna be all riced out and all trying to shoot flames just for show,I suggest you just drill a hole in your exhaust and install a spark plug,wire it up,remove cat,richen your fuel map and fire away.
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I would like a beer but i just think that there has to be some way to cut spark with my hydra.

btw where's a good place to get the beer for cheap?
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Nati light, anywhere haha cheap **** water, but it has the highest alcohol concentration of beer, i believe, dont quote me. Hey Faeflora, when i finish up my car (should be shortly) wanna go for a spin sometime. I live down in Odenton, near Fort Meade. If you need help with anything just hit me up, im pretty handy with a wrench (tore my engine out last weekend) and good with Electrical ( Electrician by profession)
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I would like a beer but i just think that there has to be some way to cut spark with my hydra.

btw where's a good place to get the beer for cheap?
I gotta ask,why is it so important that you need to shoot flames?

Ebay is a good place to pick up a Bee*R.

There is way to tune the Hydra to keep dumping fuel during decel,just give FM a call or whoever tuned the Hydra for you.
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Nati light, anywhere haha cheap **** water, but it has the highest alcohol concentration of beer, i believe, dont quote me. Hey Faeflora, when i finish up my car (should be shortly) wanna go for a spin sometime. I live down in Odenton, near Fort Meade. If you need help with anything just hit me up, im pretty handy with a wrench (tore my engine out last weekend) and good with Electrical ( Electrician by profession)
natural light? no way it has the highest alcohol content. far from no way. go to belgium, drink anything that says "trippel" and you'll understand. pretty much anything that is "light" is going to have a relatively low alcohol content (<5%). The trippel may be above 10%.
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like i said dont quote me. I dont touch it, tried it once and wont drink it again, i prefer to have some jack daniels or everclear.
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