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Joe Perez 05-12-2009 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by l_bader (Post 407755)
(...) You replace the fender, door and quarter on your own, and then the body shop does the respray.

Unless the OP has a TIG welder (and a lot of experience doing thin sheet metal) replacing the rear quarter is going to be a job for the pros. It's not a bolt-on item.

The front fender and door would still be good ones to procure separately and hand over to the shop. If they're different colors, I'd suggest bringing them over separately, as it'll be far easier to re-spray them in the proper color if they're not attached to the car.

jayc72 05-12-2009 05:38 PM

I'm pretty sure that rear quarter is spot welded in. Don't think a TIG is needed for that :)

Joe Perez 05-12-2009 05:47 PM

Good point- I was thinking along the lines of cutting out just the damaged section. But I suppose you just just drill out all the spot welds and take the whole piece.

Re-installing it onto the car would still require a welder of some kind. I've no idea if the gun-type spot-welding attachments you sometimes see are adequate for this sort of work or now.

jayc72 05-12-2009 05:57 PM

I'd be damn tempted to try and automotive panel adhesive if you end up replacing the quarter. Wouldn't have to worry about damaging the existing paint or any warping either. Have the 1/4 panel painted off the car, then glue the bitch back on.

johndoe 05-12-2009 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 407814)
I'd be damn tempted to try and automotive panel adhesive if you end up replacing the quarter. Wouldn't have to worry about damaging the existing paint or any warping either. Have the 1/4 panel painted off the car, then glue the bitch back on.

Quarter panel isn't structural? I would have thought if it's welded it adds to the structure of the unibody.

BradC 05-12-2009 08:40 PM

I am perfectly comfy getting a painted fender or door to fit properly, helped assemble a few friend's classic cars (most of my friend's are Chevy/Ford guys), but damned if I am confident enough to deal with the rear quarter.

Plan is to take it to a local shop a friend had his car done at, they did great work and do tons of restorations and higher end stuff.

We shall see what the future holds, I am most worried about the insurance trying to write it off and dealing with that hassle.

It took awhle to find a chassis w/no rust, and nice paint...I don't want to have to start over.

jobambo 05-13-2009 03:38 AM

<Thread Jack>
Question, my car is salvaged. If this would of happened to me, how would the insurance value the repair on the car?
</Thead Jack>

FRT_Fun 05-13-2009 03:50 AM

I'm so scared of someone hitting my car :(

I am going to start bringing some road cones and some police tape and surrounding my car with it everywhere I park.

gaius49 05-14-2009 01:35 AM

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A good shop can work miracles. I was reended by a frined when I was stopped and he was going 35-40. Frame rail crumpled. Quarter panel folded. Trunk wouldn't open/close. Whole rear end was twisted. It was bad. for 5800 it came out like new. Insurance claimed the car's value to be 6000. It was a close one. Don't worry though, that doesn't look so bad at all.

Here is what mine looked like after the accident.

Yes, I looked at the frame diagrams, the rear quarter panels are structural, you don't replace them.

BradC 05-14-2009 10:00 AM

Got an estimate today, $2044.88 in damages.

Check was already cut, she'll be back.

Now to decide if I buy some over fenders while its in paint...

Stein 05-14-2009 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by BradC (Post 408455)
Got an estimate today, $2044.88 in damages.

Check was already cut, she'll be back.

Now to decide if I buy some over fenders while its in paint...

Wow, I guessed that within $45. Glad to hear it's going to work out for you.

jayc72 05-14-2009 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by gaius49 (Post 408385)
Yes, I looked at the frame diagrams, the rear quarter panels are structural, you don't replace them.

What are you talking about? The quarter panel is absolutely replaceable. Call a Mazda Dealer and get the part number. Is it bolt on? No, but that doesn't mean it can't be replaced. A body shop can and will replace it for you.

jayc72 05-14-2009 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by johndoe (Post 407871)
Quarter panel isn't structural? I would have thought if it's welded it adds to the structure of the unibody.

Having looked at it, I don't think it is. The inner structure that the 1/4 panel attaches too is, but the outer is just spot welded on.

BradC 05-14-2009 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 408462)
Wow, I guessed that within $45. Glad to hear it's going to work out for you.

Seriously, good call man!

Buuuut, they forgot to put in the damaged mirror and mirror glass, so you were a biiiit more off. Damn close though man!

Joe Perez 05-14-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by jayc72 (Post 408469)
What are you talking about? The quarter panel is absolutely replaceable. Call a Mazda Dealer and get the part number.

Good call.

From the NA collision guide:

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sexyKEVIN 05-14-2009 01:34 PM

could have been alot worse he could have just left .


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