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triple88a 07-07-2013 03:49 PM

After taking NO-xplode for 2nd week i must say i'm disappointed. I'm not feeling any different than without it. No extra pump at all.

Dot3 07-07-2013 04:16 PM

White flood reborn is amazing and I'm not yellow of whatever you said.

triple88a 07-07-2013 04:29 PM

There is a reason why there is a new version of white flood...

Dot3 07-07-2013 05:34 PM

And it's amazing. As was the one before it.

Scrappy Jack 07-07-2013 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Dot3 (Post 1029226)
White flood reborn is amazing and I'm not yellow of whatever you said.

I know this is English; I'm just not sure it is coherent English.


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 1025499)
I can't get enough precision in my cheap body fat percentage calipers to tell between 11-13%, for example (and no way to tell if the nominal value is at all useful). My weight fluctuates a little, but I'm really not concerned about that number. I'm concerned with (1) getting stronger and (2) looking better.

I now feel better that my calipers are in the ballpark. I used the gym's handheld device and it showed 10.8% body fat.

y8s 07-08-2013 10:10 AM

You can measure body fat 5 different ways and get 5 different results, none of which will be accurate. What's nice about the various caliper methods is that they actually make you grab your flab so you can physically see it instead of inferring it from body impedance.

Scrappy Jack 07-08-2013 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1029380)
You can measure body fat 5 different ways and get 5 different results, none of which will be accurate. What's nice about the various caliper methods is that they actually make you grab your flab so you can physically see it instead of inferring it from body impedance.

I think I am picking up what you are putting down, which is why I have always talked about the number as an estimate. However, if you measure it five different ways and they are all within a few percentage points of each other, I think you can infer that the precise number is somewhere in that general ballpark - especially when the physical appearance matches up with the expectations for that BF%. :)

In my case, I have been single digit BF% before so I know what I look like in that condition (ripped like Jesus). I am not there but my appearance now does seem to fit with the ~11 - 13% range.

miatauser884 07-08-2013 05:39 PM

I use use my caliper measurement as a progress gauge. As long as the thickness keeps shrinking in the same spot, then I'm happy.

y8s 07-08-2013 08:53 PM

exactly. it's like dynos. you can't dyno at BEGi, throw on a 3" exhaust and then see what your gains were at FM...

Leafy 07-08-2013 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1029672)
exactly. it's like dynos. you can't dyno at BEGi, throw on a 3" exhaust and then see what your gains were at FM...

Unless they both had dyno jets with the weather station... and since its a turbo car, at ~ the same elevation. :fawk:

JasonC SBB 07-09-2013 11:03 PM

This guy, Dr. Jack Kruse, is right up mgeoffrau's alley.
He’s a neurosurgeon, who went from 340 lbs to a buff 200 lbs.
He did a bunch of research and figured out how important Leptin Sensitivity is, more so than Insulin Sensitivity, and why the medical community is 15 years behind the research.

This is a long 1 hr interview, but it is WELL worth the time.
Leptin: The Master Hormone Tying Everything Together | One Radio Network

The actual interview begins at 4 minutes.

If you have a podcast player (I use “Ginkgo Audio Book Player” on my Android), here is the direct download for it:
http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/...paleo_diet.mp3

And here's a 2nd interview:
The LLVLC Show (Episode 474): Nashville Neurosurgeon Dr. Jack Kruse Rocks The Low-Carb Message « Jimmy Moore's Livin' La Vida Low Carb Blog

mgeoffriau 07-10-2013 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1030117)
This guy, Dr. Jack Kruse, is right up mgeoffrau's alley.

Not a fan. Whatever valuable information he might have to offer is completely outweighed by the general kookiness of the guy. Guys like that make the Paleo/ancestral/ketogenic crowd look like something that belongs on Art Bell Coast to Coast instead of a serious, research-based movement.

JasonC SBB 07-10-2013 03:34 PM

Pls. expound on "non research based".

mgeoffriau 07-10-2013 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1030357)
Pls. expound on "non research based".

Just read any of the articles on his various "quantum biology" ideas.

Braineack 07-15-2013 03:15 PM

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JasonC SBB 07-15-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1030417)
Just read any of the articles on his various "quantum biology" ideas.

Weird all right.

What about the stuff he bases on Amgen's Leptin research ... e.g.:

- have a bigass hi protein low carb breaky within 30 minutes of rising
- dinner should be 3-5 hours before bed time
- exposure to bright light at bedtime affects sleep cycles and screws up cortisol...

mgeoffriau 07-15-2013 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1032045)
- have a bigass hi protein low carb breaky within 30 minutes of rising
- dinner should be 3-5 hours before bed time
- exposure to bright light at bedtime affects sleep cycles and screws up cortisol...

Sure, that's all fine. But I can learn the same kind of stuff from Robb Wolf, or Mark Sission, or Loren Cordain, or Chris Kresser, and I don't have to weed out the hokey silliness.


EDIT: I'm not saying he doesn't have anything to add to the "canon" of dietary knowledge. I just think he's a poor spokesman based on the bizarre stuff he talks about.

miatauser884 07-15-2013 11:27 PM

So.......when your lifting, what percantage of total calories are you trying to target for protein, fat, and carbs?

I assume like miats, everyone is different and will respond differently to the same tune. ( you like how I did that?)

Up to 95lbs for squats on stronglifts. Woohoo!

Leafy 07-15-2013 11:30 PM

I've made it back into the gym for the 3rd week now. Back on the creatine, gained 8 pounds of water, my shoulder is still at the level of "just a bit more than the asians" when it comes to bench press variations. Getting 135 for 10 hasn't felt like an accomplishment since the 9th grade.

JasonC SBB 07-15-2013 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1032151)
Sure, that's all fine. But I can learn the same kind of stuff from Robb Wolf, or Mark Sission, or Loren Cordain, or Chris Kresser, and I don't have to weed out the hokey silliness.

What about his testing ideas, e.g. rev T3, HS-CRP, cortisol... ?


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