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And a controlled flight right to the ambulance. Amazing!
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That'll buff right out.
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I'm gonna print all the pictures out and make one of those old school flip books !!!
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Joey Hand revisited....whew-wee!
"Hey, is thing gonna make it?" "Yep, all the way to the crash site." That was one hell of a get-off.... |
After further investigation, it has been ruled that the cause of the accident was due to the extra weight of the tape on the numbers. Used to be "64" - made into "84".....thus unsettling the balance of the car. :eek5:
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I wanna see the 15 seconds before the first picture.
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I think they need a larger run-off...
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In the Lotus forums they posted some shots of the sand trap after the incident. Counted up to 7 post marks approx. 50ft. apart.
This boy was cooking, and long since out of sorts before the trap. |
What turn was that in? Thats a pretty spectacular crash.
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I kept scrolling down thinking, "Okay, the tires will stop him... the fence will stop him... hmm."
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Reminds me of the long-crash scene in Talladega Nights. Who keeps the cats on a race-car?
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gotta watch those braking zones, 350s aren't miatas...
at least he can salvage those turn signal rods and e-brake |
Glad the safety equipment did its job
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Hoe lee crap! I like the zombie like walk to the ambulance with both arms out in front. I'd be a little dazed too. Tough for a tire wall to stop a car that's airborn and tumbling. Just a good thing the ambulance crew wasn't parked 50' over.
That's the stuff that scares me about HPDE with just a roll bar. |
Originally Posted by JDMAflac
(Post 306963)
Glad the safety equipment did its job
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That's BS, no way the camera stopped right there.....i want the rest of the video until did shut out.
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/\ I do too... but it does show enough of why it is more advisable to steer straight and not try to make the turn.
Reports were of possible brake failure, which first reaction should have been to keep car straight to begin with. Glad to see how well the car held up and the advancements that have been made over the years for this very scenario. |
Originally Posted by KPLAFIN
(Post 306982)
That's BS, no way the camera stopped right there.....i want the rest of the video until did shut out.
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Originally Posted by Ben
(Post 306989)
Driver claims the recording device was ejected from the car at that point.
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should have pumped the brakes and pulled the e-brake. oh wellz. i figured from the pictures that he simply didn't brake.
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unless hes pumping the clutch pedal in that vid, his brakes def went out.
Wouldent the crash have been more viloent of he went straight? He would of hit the tire wall doing 100 plus, alot of g force woulda been created. |
On the left side of the video the red & green bar is an accel/decel indicator. As he approaches the braking zone you see it spike red but then drop down and flutter a bit. So he had brakes at least for a split second at the beginning, which means it probably wasn't boiled fluid. Maybe a ruptured line? If he was an experienced SCCA driver I'm sure he'd know to lock them up and try to go off straight, but it's possible that he couldn't lock them up. Dude is lucky to walk away from that.
He had a video setup with an integrated G-force sensor, probably a Chase Cam. Those are not one-piece camcorders like the Hero or Aiptek or garden variety digicam. They use a bullet/lipstick camera mounted to the roll cage and remotely connected to the recording device. At HPDEs I've seen guys just toss their padded recorder bag behind the passenger seat without properly strapping it down, so I can see how it could happen. But he definitely should have secured it for a race. Meh. What's another $500 for a new recorder when you've got to buy a whole new car? |
Originally Posted by cardriverx
(Post 307005)
unless hes pumping the clutch pedal in that vid, his brakes def went out.
Wouldent the crash have been more viloent of he went straight? He would of hit the tire wall doing 100 plus, alot of g force woulda been created. Here's a good example: |
Now I say no, but we all know that bad things can happen anytime; no matter what you do to prevent them. From the point of view in the car, I still suspect the curbing at that drop away still could have some issues.
We all remember Joey Hand's wreck, and he did everything by the book. |
Hmmm....just saw this. Same situation, same speed, same turn, but different outcome.
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Now after spending some time studying this infamous Turn 7 at Mid Ohio - I don't know what to think anymore. Most of the vids do show the cars getting to the tire wall even after traveling through the trap.
This guy is lucky - this I am sure of. ;) |
Originally Posted by Machismo
(Post 307033)
Nope, you'd be amazed how fast you decelerate with the use of a trap. It would have stopped that car dead long before the tire wall.
Here's a good example: |
It was like one of those flip books, except this one kept going and going.
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Originally Posted by MattEGTR
(Post 307074)
What was the "wave + thumbs up" hand signal after he passes through the dust cloud coming out of Turn 3?
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/\ :giggle: Yes, but guy did give him a point by.....
Common courtesy as acknowlegment. You never know when you might meet again....;) |
This is at Mid-Ohio, looks like this guy had a similar braking problem. I'm not familiar enough with that track to say for sure if it's the same turn, but it looks like it could be. The track itself has a pronounced upwards slope compared to the ground in the runoff area, which causes cars to become airborne with relative ease.
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God I love those Aston's, doesn't look like the same turn to me, but I could be wrong.
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This is Turn 7 from a different layout leading up to it, but the crest is the issue with cars getting airborne.
Seems pit may need be 3 ft. deep and corn rowed if they are going to catch 'em before the tire wall. Fags - as soon as I post it - it is no longer available. I FAIL! |
Originally Posted by ScottFW
(Post 307079)
This is at Mid-Ohio, looks like this guy had a similar braking problem. I'm not familiar enough with that track to say for sure if it's the same turn, but it looks like it could be. The track itself has a pronounced upwards slope compared to the ground in the runoff area, which causes cars to become airborne with relative ease.
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Does seem so for that particular turn. :eek5:
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Originally Posted by Machismo
(Post 307078)
/\ :giggle: Yes, but guy did give him a point by.....
Common courtesy as acknowlegment. You never know when you might meet again....;) |
Originally Posted by jwx
(Post 306947)
What turn was that in? Thats a pretty spectacular crash.
I'm guessing the right turn after grandstand #2, that's where all the Neons were rolling when I went to the Runoffs several years ago (don't remember, but the 1st gen Neon was still new then..) Now I'm going to watch the video and see if I was right... Edit - ...or I could just read page 2.. but IDK if turn 7 and the corner I'm talking about are the same. |
/\ IDK.... I have personally never been there. I say turn 7 as that was mentioned in several of the videos posted and two were identical in topography, and safety crew locations.
From the look of the map at long straight with slight dogleg, I'm thinking more around Number 14 - by Grandstand #2. This is also near #22 - Observation Mound - (which would have been a good viewpoint for the photographer to capture footage). |
Yeah after looking at the video, that was the spot.
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pertinent
both midohio and miata
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:eek5: That'll put the Pucker in the factor for sure.
That guy was lucky. |
Did he have to go out and buy some new pants afterwards? I think I would've if I looked up and had that many miatas dodging out of the way to avoid hitting me.
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I saw something similar coming through turn 6 at Rd. Atl way back - only the car (Itc rabiit) was upside down. :D
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Originally Posted by MattEGTR
(Post 306952)
I kept scrolling down thinking, "Okay, the tires will stop him... the fence will stop him... hmm."
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^ that's the corner I'm talking about.
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