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Pitlab77 12-20-2006 09:53 AM

dentist
 
Went to the dentist yesterday.

my wallet came home much thinner.

It makes me sad how thoese without insurance really get screwed when it comes to medical care because I know I would not be able to afford the pre-insurance price.

cjernigan 12-20-2006 01:57 PM

For real, i'm 20 and have my own insurance from the union i work in and it has great coverage, then my mom's covers me as well and I still paid about $200 when i went to the dentist last time it was ridiculous.
I would hate to see the bill for someone with no insurance.

Braineack 12-20-2006 01:57 PM

that's why at this point i just refuse to go ;)

Philip 12-20-2006 02:24 PM

I didn't have insurance for 4 or 5 years in college. Looking back that was retarded. Now I'm very well covered luckily.

Ben 12-20-2006 02:43 PM

Medical insurance is a must have. I understand that now.

Anyone who thinks insurance is too expensive to be worthwhile, I can send you my medical bills from the last 8 months. They've had to pay out $100k+; I have a $1000 deductible and pay $130/month.

jayc72 12-20-2006 02:52 PM

I'm glad I live in Communist Canada :) Although healthcare here is starting to suck ass as much as anywhere if you aren't insured. :(

hustler 12-20-2006 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Pitlab77 (Post 66215)
Went to the dentist yesterday.

my wallet came home much thinner.

It makes me sad how thoese without insurance really get screwed when it comes to medical care because I know I would not be able to afford the pre-insurance price.

If you're healthy like me, its cheaper to not have insurance for the small amount of healthcare I use.

magnamx-5 12-20-2006 04:27 PM

I dont have health insurance nor go to the doctor i dont see paying the extortion for something i wont use if i where offered a cheap catastophre type insurance plan instead of the hypocondriac ones offered from my work i would but until then i'll just muddle through.

Ben 12-20-2006 04:36 PM

Guys, I was once "invincible" like you. I hadn't seen a doctor in years, before I got hurt. All it takes is one little accident. Medical costs are amazingly high.

Magna, I know you ride. My injuries were caused by a not at fault motorcycle accident. $100k+ in expenses within the past year, no kidding.

Here, I'll break it down a little:
Outpatient surgery (meaning you go home right after):
Hospital Charge $37k
Surgeon's Fee $2k
Anasthesologists's Fee $5k
Total: $44k

That was what it cost to repair my leg/knee/acl

That's just the cost of the surgery, and does not include medical care before & after, blood tests, x rays, CT scans, MRIs, supplies like crutches and braces (one acl brace is $500, I think I have 4 different braces now), medicine, nor physical therapy.

magnamx-5 12-20-2006 05:01 PM

True this is why i have 60K pip only costs 50 bucks every 6 months. And anything that happens at work is covered by workmans comp so. I am not totally in the wind but still cant justifiy the expense. My last crash i got pretty rashed up didnt even use my pip and still came out with 150 bucks including the antibiotic becouse i thought i was geting infected cost for someone to tell me i could have antibiotic gauze iodine etc. still cheaper than the crap from work. Invincible i am not but far from stupid so i try to stay out of bad situations but shit happens.

Pitlab77 12-20-2006 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 66329)
Guys, I was once "invincible" like you. I hadn't seen a doctor in years, before I got hurt. All it takes is one little accident. Medical costs are amazingly high.

Magna, I know you ride. My injuries were caused by a not at fault motorcycle accident. $100k+ in expenses within the past year, no kidding.

Here, I'll break it down a little:
Outpatient surgery (meaning you go home right after):
Hospital Charge $37k
Surgeon's Fee $2k
Anasthesologists's Fee $5k
Total: $44k

That was what it cost to repair my leg/knee/acl

That's just the cost of the surgery, and does not include medical care before & after, blood tests, x rays, CT scans, MRIs, supplies like crutches and braces (one acl brace is $500, I think I have 4 different braces now), medicine, nor physical therapy.

True.

I am very healthy, and work out. But even doing just that you never know. Say i've hurt my ankle pretty bad running before when I was in college (aka under parents insurance).

dr visit,
hospital
x-rays
crutches
etc. $$$$ adds up.

Joe Perez 12-20-2006 09:08 PM

Indeed. I'm 29, still healthy, invincible, etc. In March I wrecked a motorcycle. Spent four days in the hospital (no surgery) and the total tab, including ambulance transport, radiology, etc was around $28k.

Fortunately I have decent health coverage through work so I was only about $1k out of pocket, but that's still astounding...

sausages 12-21-2006 05:25 AM

Just out of interest what does the average medical insurance set you back in the states?

magnamx-5 12-21-2006 08:02 AM

The average can be anywhere from 100-500 a month. My dad pays nothing for his now before he paid 30 bucks gotta love dow corning. My work wanted 25 bucks a week as the only option this is on the low end but still not cheep enough to be attractive to me. I have known of people who pay 500+ in health insurance alone.

olderguy 12-21-2006 08:49 AM

I pay $840/month for my wife and I, but hey, I'm OLD.

Atlanta93LE 12-21-2006 09:15 AM

I pay about $70/month through my grad. school, but it is crap insurance. Still though, I'd never not carry some sort of health insurance.

That being said, the whole healthcare/insurance world ticks me off.

y8s 12-21-2006 10:01 AM

haha, so vote hillary if you want cheaper health insurance.

ps my old dentist was hot but I had to move. she was also a good friend so I got cheap dental work. maybe i'll visit over xmas.

Jefe 12-21-2006 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 66453)
I pay $840/month for my wife and I, but hey, I'm OLD.

OMFG!!!!

I haven't paid that much since I was self employed...@ my current employer I think I'm free and The one kid I carry is ~50 bucks a month, but he's four and has a seven thousand dollar tooth in his mouth!!! F^ck'n gummy snacks...

Loki047 12-21-2006 07:50 PM

for my family 4 ppl is 1400 a month


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