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Old 12-13-2007, 05:18 PM   #41
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one of the better surprises came from an srt-4...

beware though, car handles like a barrel of monkeys too.......
Yes, yes it does. But it glides over bumps so well, I drive my 9-month-old around in it. It angers some of the SRT "purists" (SRT4 purists? yeah, they exist... ) that I use it as a grocery getter.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:21 PM   #42
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i'd get a wrx as a daily driver, maybe very mild mods like an flash tune and a set of coilovers and tires and just drive the thing.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:23 PM   #43
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wtf is up w/ the S2K hate :(
can't we all just get along?

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bad:
g35 coupe was one of the last cars to really disappoint me. shortly followed by the solstice

good:
the current gen RL is one of the best thing i've driven lately for the $
q45. crap that thing is a boat. a really fast boat.
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Old 12-13-2007, 06:56 PM   #44
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Better than expected:
Evo 8/9/MR. Evo anything, I love them all.. Call me biased though.
Mini Cooper S (I think im the only one on here who liked it.. Drove one for half an hour at work yesterday, loved the little thing. Could have been faster though.)

WORSE
WRX anything
RX7 (Non turbo)
RX8 (Automatic)
Stock DSMs
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:50 PM   #45
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Almost forgot: I've had a bunch of seat-time in an FD. Hated it. The seating position was really uncomfortable, and the power band was junk. It had nothing below 4500rpm, and the fun was over at 6800. Really, REALLY poor throttle response, too.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:11 PM   #46
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That FD must have been busted. Primary turbo failure or something. Mine was a friggin blast, and rev'd hard.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:13 PM   #47
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---- 2000 S2K. on the street it had HORRIBLE tires. the car was just too easy to put the back end out, and a lot harder to get it to grip. I would like to drive one with wider, stickier tires under there.

---- I see a lot of people dont like the MCS, I drove one a slightly modded one and thought the only issues it had were in the corners, but it being FWD I didnt think it was that bad. Its one of my choices if I had to own a FWD car.

---- 2006 MX-5, I didnt like it at first, but then I kept on thinking about it and I liked it more and more, now I want one and would like to drive one again.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:51 PM   #48
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That FD must have been busted. Primary turbo failure or something. Mine was a friggin blast, and rev'd hard.
We replaced the turbos just before selling it. I drove it home from the shop. The thing was just a dog.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:14 PM   #49
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---- 2000 S2K. on the street it had HORRIBLE tires. the car was just too easy to put the back end out, and a lot harder to get it to grip. I would like to drive one with wider, stickier tires under there.

---- I see a lot of people dont like the MCS, I drove one a slightly modded one and thought the only issues it had were in the corners, but it being FWD I didnt think it was that bad. Its one of my choices if I had to own a FWD car.

---- 2006 MX-5, I didnt like it at first, but then I kept on thinking about it and I liked it more and more, now I want one and would like to drive one again.
I thought you were disassembled and stored when not driving?
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:47 PM   #50
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Well, I don't try as many cars as all that, and like movies, I have really low expectations of all cars so I'm occiasonlly plesantly surprised.

I drove a date's big engined audi, 3 or 4 liter. Oh my GOD was it a dog. It was so terrible. It picked up off the line like a motor that gives up all it's bottom end for a huge tone of top... but then went downhill. Just the smallest of tugs down low to let you know it shifted uselessly again.

I'd love to hear what's up with the solstice, I figured it would rock with a turbo and all, though I wouldn't buy one.

300ZX feels WAY WAY heavy, otherwise ok. It was NA though.

The RX-8 was about what I thought, I didn't get to beat it up. It just felt like a nice car they added 400 lbs of commuter car comforts to. Probably a good car to learn how to drive in. It felt tracky, if not fast.

The WRX was really fun to do donughts in, slid straight for something loaded with drunk friends. But you couldn't get the tires to smoke it it had turbo lag that never quite payed off. I'm sure a cat-back and 4 more psi would make it a good car - but by all accounts EVOs are the only car of that type worth looking at.

No surprise people like the MS3. The Omni was a great car, the SRT-4 rocks by all accounts. It's not hard to make a turbo-eco-fwd box that's fun.


V-6 Fiero. Man... I really liked the two 4 banger fieros I had, and I figured what could be better than a fiero with more power. I dunno why but it seemed somehow slower. I hated it, it was depressingly slow.
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:48 PM   #51
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nsx (needs more torque)
nc mx5 (not as good as i thought it would be)
integra gsr
wrx (400+whp - still sucked ***)
rsx type-s (had it for some time - worst so far)
mbz e430
s14 240sx (not enough hp and revs)
audi a4 & a6 (absolutely horrible)
vw jetta vr6 (love gti though)
g35 (my 350z is WAY better)
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:51 PM   #52
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Oh, I forgot:
I liked the NC miata. No rocket, but it seemed pretty great for a totally unmodded, warrantied street car. It catered to the driver without weight 4500 lbs.
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Forgot the Z32 300ZX TT. Big disappointment
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:41 PM   #54
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Forgot the Z32 300ZX TT. Big disappointment
really? the 300zx i drive occasionally feels like a dog to my s13 240, but you'd think the addition of 2 snails to my none would make a great change?
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Old 12-15-2007, 01:35 AM   #55
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Well the engine was alittle beat, and I did drive my miata just before that so it probobly made it seem slower. Idk
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:05 AM   #56
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Question for those that didn't like the S2000. Was this a street or track experience?

I can understand that in city driving, the power is anemic at low speeds......


But on a track, when you're heel-n-toe'ing at high rpms and pushing the car to it's limit, it's nothing a miata can hold up against. I was giddy after driving a stock S2k on the track!

I guess thats just me....
I actually owned an S2k for a little over a year and can say I was disappointed on both counts...

At the track it had great brakes and good grip but it got walked by damn near every other car out there. I have no problem with this in a stockish Miata, but c'mon, this is supposed to be a serious sports car. I also did not like the vague steering and the chassis that did not provide any feedback whatsoever at the limit.

Around town the car was a friggin dog, I'm sure I don't need to explain further.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:48 AM   #57
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Mazdaspeed Miata - slow, very laggy. damn, i was really let down by this car. this was before I had even turbo'd my own.

Mini cooper - think the stock 1.6 miata is slow? try this one! the miata's lack of power is charming in comparison, the MINI is just scary slow.

350z - I actually didn't notice the weight as a problem, and it seemed to handle pretty well, but it wasn't very quick and the steering was pretty numb.

Iwas impressed with the NC miata though, great handling, the engine is a big improvement over the NB, the only thing to fault is the styling and those retarded cupholders in the doors.

The lesson this thread teaches us: (aftermarket) turbo miatas spoil you.
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:59 AM   #58
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The lesson this thread teaches us: (aftermarket) turbo miatas spoil you.
Isn't that the truth.

I drove my buddy's new-to-him MKIV Supra tonight. I was actually pretty surprised. It manages to be very sure-footed while remaining pretty maneuverable. It certainly didn't feel like a 3400lb car. The powerband is really amusing too; the second turbo really comes in hard, and the car is deceptively fast. 3rd gear feels so long, and it's very smooth and quiet, and all of a sudden you're doing 85mph trying to catch the DB9 that's just flown past while your friend begins to gripe about your speed. (oopsie)
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I like the NSX and S2000 with boost. Especially with 772rwhp (NSX) on street tires. Very scary.
Was that the LoveFab NSX? They had it out a little while ago at the track I think? I think they are closer to you than me.
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disappointment: BMW 335
I ran one this morning on a really long bridge here in Tampa, and smoked it horribly, over and over and over, I even waited for him to try a flyby, and caught up with him before it even got 5 car links away. I would expect a twin turbo bimmer to be much faster. Its also got an ECU upgrade (The thing thats like the Xede, -I work with the guy)

He talks all this **** to get smoked by a 1.8L Sub 10K dollar turbo miata.
Might have been more fair if it was a 135.

Car I was most surprised by:
A friends single turbo T66 Supra. Acceleration after 4000 was like getting hit in the face with a Brick. Pulls hard all the way to 180.
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