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Old 03-29-2007, 10:17 PM   #21
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I found Calc 2 and 3 to be very difficult but though Differential Equations was pretty straight forward. I think it mostly depends on the teacher.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:27 PM   #22
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Depends what you end up doing. On a daily basis I don't use it, the odd time you may have to use a little.

It really depends on what sector you end up in and what type of work you.

What type of job would you hope to get when you are done school?
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:29 PM   #23
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It doesn't sound like he's in a position yet to know that answer to that question.
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:36 PM   #24
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Yeah I'm only in my 2nd semester, freshman year :gay:
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:44 AM   #25
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took cal in college. Use only basic math
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:50 PM   #26
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Like others have said, stick with it and muscle through it, this time or when you retake the course.

You WILL use calculus. You will use it when you get hired for a good job that requires the degree you're going to get that includes calc. I had four semesters of calc and diff eq. Hated it. I've only used "nuts and bolts" calc a handful of times at work but it is often important to understand the theory to make accurate judgement calls. A lot of the work of getting a degree is showing you are willing to work hard and showing you are capable of learning.

BTW, save this thread on paper and refer to it the next time you feel like punting. A degree isn't the only path to success and it won't ensure your future, but it is well worth the (hard) effort. The first time you get paid enough in one month to buy a turbo Miata, you'll be glad you stuck it out.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:54 PM   #27
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haha, everytime I feel like giving up I just go talk to my advisor (they listen well) and then I remind myself of the average hiring pay of engineers from my school. Then I smile and continue to work
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:06 PM   #28
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haha, everytime I feel like giving up I just go talk to my advisor (they listen well) and then I remind myself of the average hiring pay of engineers from my school. Then I smile and continue to work
What figure did they give you out of curiousity and for what part of the country.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:37 PM   #29
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avg cpe makes 55-65K starting salary. I go to school in blacksburg which is a "small" town with a campus of 40-50K students and faculty. Most of the companies are either large corporations or smaller places from cities in neighboring states, and northern va. The avg hiring rate for a graduating engineer here is above 80% if I remember correctly.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:26 PM   #30
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It really depends where you plan to use thier degree. The only place Ive hear of it being used is in some gas and fluid flows, but thats only to get thinks into a workable form. (Energy Equation and such)

Dont Bail out. Im having trouble beloeving you can get a ABET degree in ME without going up to differential equations. You wouldn't be able to do heat transfer at all, or control systems, or something other class i cant remember *where they introduce transfer functions*
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:28 PM   #31
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haha, everytime I feel like giving up I just go talk to my advisor (they listen well) and then I remind myself of the average hiring pay of engineers from my school. Then I smile and continue to work
Yup just got a job making 56k, and and will be well over 100k in 3 years. I also had 3 jobs offers in one week. Engineering is awesome, as long as you can handle it.

Engineering gives you a way to think.
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Old 03-30-2007, 09:16 PM   #32
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plus with a solid engineering degree you can debate car stuff with forum weenies.
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Loki, for your sake I hope you're right, but expecting to double your salary in 3 years may be a bit far-fetched. A third-year engineer with only a BS isn't going to be in the 100k range unless you're bending over for the boss
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Old 03-30-2007, 11:58 PM   #34
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I disagree. Depending on your location that is entirely possible with a job change. My uncle went from help desk to network admin to network engineer all within 5 yrs by switching jobs. Thats 5yrs from when he got his diploma. From ~40K to $130K per year. You just need to be in the right field.
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And engineering just isn't it, unless you go management, but that generally isn't in the first 3 years.

And for every one of your uncle, there are 5 people still at network admin.
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Don't become so complacent then and look for a better job......
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I'm not complaining about my job. I'm doing just fine thank you. But I've had to hire a bunch of punk kids fresh out of their BS engineering degrees expecting to rise through the ranks like they're God's gift to the industry; thinking they can just forget anything that got through their thick skulls in undergrad and show all the experienced engineers what's up. Well, it doesn't happen often. And the ones that do rise quickly aren't normally the ones you'd expect. The ones who end up doing well are those that enter wanting to prove themselves, not waiting around on their thumbs to get promoted and given raises just because that's what they're expecting.
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I'm sorry that you have had to hire those punk kids in the past. I am in no way saying I expect to double my salary that fast, but where I am from it is not just something I hear of once a year. It is a regular occurrence in northern va. I would be pretty damn happy with even $50k/year for a while, but at the same time I know that if I don't expect more for/from myself than I would ever get it. The way I see it is that you have to keep trying to get better things for yourself because they aren't usually going to come looking for you.
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You've got a good attitude about it. Go after at it. Earn a raise. Don't expect it.
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Loki, for your sake I hope you're right, but expecting to double your salary in 3 years may be a bit far-fetched. A third-year engineer with only a BS isn't going to be in the 100k range unless you're bending over for the boss
Nope, but definitely over 100k. You should look for a new field
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