Drifting is more Shlammed than it looks
 

So I lucked into a $1500 2010 Mustang GT last month. There really wasn't anything I could think to do with it so I decided to try drifting. I would describe myself as an above average driver on a road course, autox, rally, etc. Drifting was way harder than I expected and way more fun than I realized. Anybody know anything about drifting? I need to make some changes to the car and then try again. Is there a forum? There were two turbo Miatas out there and they looked like pretty good drivers.


Yes I realize we normally hate on the stanced drifting crowd, but seriously this was fun and challenging.

This is how you lose cats

It's 2018.
You can just come out and say you're gay.

Figure skating is also very challenging.

Better a Mustang into a wall than a Mustang into a crowd.

Riveting stuff.

Guys, I've been doing motorsports related stuff for 15 years, I'm bored. Plus you can't be James Bond unless you can ballroom dance, shoot guns, and drift lol. I've got the guns taken care of...

See how crazy you sound?

Oh dear lord, I have more fun doing burnouts and pulling old cars out of the weeds these days haha. I also still have several Miata's, stop being haters.

Do these burnouts have names? Anyone we know? Hustler Maybe?

He sends me nudes from time to time, but he travels too much these days.

back to the basics.

get an aftermarket steering wheel that has the hub in the center, and a full capture seat of some sort. beyond that, make sure your LSD is giving good lockup and try to get as much steering angle you can so when you start to push it harder you don't hit the steering limit and spin. you can still get really good at it without these things, but they definitely make it easier.

Me back in 2008. Can't beat $50 Thursday drift days for cheap track time.
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I think you may be the side piece :(

I like how there are closet drifters in here.

We know who they are. They're not fooling anyone.

Do you like fish sticks?

Midtenn (Drifter) circa 2005-2006. Before AE86's were "cool" and expensive. 90whp on a good day. Learned a lot about car control from this car. It was auto-x'd, tracked, and drifted almost every other weekend for about 5-6 years with no major mechanical failures.

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I don't understand the hate for the drift crowd, but I feel younger drivers that are just getting into driving and "swinging that civic in the parking lot" have something to do with it. 3 years ago I first got my taste of "drifting" in an abandoned parking lot on the outskirts of town. It is very addicting and challenging. It takes a certain type of person to be willing to destroy their car in the name of fun. Plus you need to buy tires more times than the average family grocery store trip. I used to go out every other Saturday night to a local-ish go kart track where they hosted drift night. $50 and a simple tech inspection and you could drift all night!
I've since stopped the drift hobby in the name of trying to save money and my clean chassis, but I'm sure I'll be back eventually!
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Having a car that you don't like makes the decision way easier haha

For people who grew up with acres of land and dirt roads it was a lot cheaper to learn and do similar maneuvers. Tires are conserved. Still not interested in doing it.

Looks like Old Dominion Speedway in Manassas @shuiend ?

I always just did it for fun. I wasn't interested in getting angle kits and doing mods specifically for drifting. I do feel it make me more comfortable sliding a car around because of it. If I had car I didn't care for, I'd probably do events if they were close and cheap.

That is correct. I lived about 5 minutes away from ODS. A local group called Slideways would rent it for stupid cheap on week days. I would spend the $50 and skip college classes and work to go out and have fun. Learned a lot about driving. One of these day's I will get out to the new ODS in Fredricksburg.

When I did it, it was for fun. It cost the same as an autox, but instead of 5 to 6 minutes of driving I would get 2 to 4 hours. There were no groups or sessions or "rules". You just got in line and went out and did a run or two, then came back in and the next person went out. Then repeated as much as you wanted.

Mine gets used for it frequently. You just have to keep it a secret here because this type of vehicular fun is not allowed. The trick to keep your car from being injured and turning into the typical fuckboi shit box is to never tandem with anyone. Ever.

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We must have met at some point then, I was heavily involved with Slideways starting in 2006. Ran with them until about 2008-09 when Yoshi gave it up to help push people to drift with Drift Nirvana at Summit Point. I do miss those ODS days.

I like how the rules are a little more lax, just an easy going day

Cool, thanks for sharing. Looks like a blast.

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What car did you drive? Describe it. I can see if I can dig up some pics. I did 4 or 5 events with Slideways in 07-09. Yoshi helped me build my MS1 back in 2007. Then I would actively hang out at his place in fairfax 08-10 before I moved south.

Black S13 240SX. Stock body, stock wheels in 06-07, pretty non-descript really, though it was SR swapped. 08-10 it had a variety of different wheel setups (as most 240s do haha) and remained otherwise not much different than any other stock body S-chassis at the time. I lost a ton of pictures in an old computer crash, but was able to dig up a few from the archives:

Drifting 101 day on ODS "skidpad" parking lot, I believe in 2007. Stock KA24E, K sport coilovers, open diff.
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ODS paddock area, probably 07-08ish shortly after Drifting 101 with SR20DET swap complete.
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I believe this was from one of the last official public Slidways events at ODS, late 08/early 09 maybe?
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Drift Nirvana on newly paved Washington Circtuit (skidpad) at Summit Point. Should've been 2009.
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A few other wheel configurations you may have seen it in.
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Ultimate non-functional lowness.
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Got a crack at driving Yoshi's E30 at one of the private ODS days following Slideways partnering with Drift Nirvana and no longer holding "official" events at ODS. Man I spent so many countless hours helping Yoshi wrench on that stupid car. That's younger me in the retarded sticker bombed helmet haha. This was in 2010.
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OG Slideways crew ~early 2007
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Following the demise of Slideways, a few of us in Richmond started Fresh Roots and began holding drift events at Shenandoah Raceway under the name Drift Valley. I got out of the scene in 2011 but Drift Valley carried on until 2015-2016 or so. It was was actually pretty awesome as we had quite a few guys who made it to D1 roll through the Slideways/Drift Nirvana/Drift Valley system: Chris Forsberg, Tony Angelo, Vaughn Gittin, Ryan Tuerck, Dan Savage, etc. They all came through after drifting got shut down at Cloverleaf Mall in Richmond in 2005 which is where the guys that started Drift Alliance all started in 2003ish. I don't know if there is much of a grassroots drifting scene around the Mid-Atlantic anymore, but I did see that Summit Point and Drift Nirvana brought back the 100 Drifters of December event this year, which is pretty cool.

Anyway, sorry for my tangent - back on topic haha. Like the OP in this thread said, drifting can be harder than it looks but it is actually quite a bit of fun. Although I was young and did some questionably stupid things to my car back then, that old 240SX taught me a lot.. Most importantly it gave me the passion for modifying, working on, and just generally enjoying cars that I have today. Of course I've now traded slaying tires for trying to keep the rubber as planted to the track as possible, but the car control learned from drifting has been an immense help in getting me through HPDE and on the road to competing at a quick pace despite an almost decade long hiatus from any sort of track driving.

I bet you wish you still had that clean 240...

I stop posting for a bit and this is what I come back to?

Some days I do. I would definitely love another one if I could find a clean one, which I know is impossible now. That car was a lot of fun, but it had definitely run its course as a project and I was ready to move on.

This thread hasn't disappointed from the first... now the title change lol.

it was nice, while you were away...

and now you are, and it will be nice again.

Well done, sir.

I will admit, it's taken all of my restraint not to push that button a dozen times in this thread.

Love you Vladi :party:

>OP posts a thread that engages multiple people in a positive way
>couple of moderators don't like the subdivision of motorsport
>changes name to shit on and constantly talks down on all those that enjoy it

Again, I don't understand the unnecessary hate (if you'd like to fill me in on why you hate it so much, I'm very interested) but you're welcome to have whatever opinion on the sport whether good or bad. But why do you guys need to take it to the next level and disrespect us like that?

Please cry a little bit more. I'm not quite ready

I can understand hating the sport for the fact that a kid is destroying a clean chassis, in turn lessening the numbers on Miatas on the road, but all the guys in this thread seem like knowledgeable people who are enjoying the sport without showing the characteristics of why you "don't particularly fancy drifting around here." I never said anything about your "joke" either... In fact I found it kind of humorous because your original post was not just you being an ass. I also never commented on whatever happened with shlammed but a 10 year member with sub-3000 posts doesn't look like "New user spam"
Sorry if it seems like I'm whining though.. I guess it's just the "delicate little snowflake" in me trying to understand why a group of friendly people are getting shit on.

Don't poke the touchy moderator with a stick too many times.

There wasn't any "hate" in this thread, just some good-natured ribbing.
If you're going to start lecturing us, you're going to have a bad time.
Shlammed wasn't banned for anything having to do with drifting or being a new user spammer.
I actually like the guy, but he has been asking for it for a long time.

Tylerkun, let me preface this by saying that I have nothing against drifting or the stance crowd. Matter of fact, I'd likely be doing the same thing if I were a millenial. But allow me to share my age and pseudo wisdom with you. Many moons ago when I was a very young man, my much older second cousin shared this story with me:

There once was a little bird who refused to take his friends' advice to fly South for the winter. It was a beautiful day and he was enjoying having all the fruits and berries to himself as the weather quickly started to cool. Sensing trouble and with his belly full he decided to start his flight South.

However, the weather came in faster than he could fly. As he lost his body heat he started losing altitude and starts contemplating his terrible miscalculation. Finally he hits the ground in a huge empty field and can't believe he's going to die frozen and alone.

From out of nowhere a cow walks by and drops a huge steaming pile of shit on him. He can't believe this is how he would die: frozen, alone, and in a big pile of shit.

But just as he thinks all is lost he starts feeling the warmth of the steaming pile on his body. He suddenly feels that he will find a way to make it South and live to learn from his lesson. He is so overcome with joy that he starts chirping and singing and flapping his wings in celebration!

Just then a scrawny old beat up farm cat catches the display the little bird is putting on and without hesitation pounces on him, drags him out of the shit, and eats him.

The moral of the story:

-Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.

-Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend.

-If you are perfectly happy in a steaming pile of shit, don't feel the need to tell anyone about it.

In case you don't understand my dinosaur old man denture talk:

-You are the little bird.

-The haters are your friends.

-Drifting is the steaming pile of shit.

-The mods are the farm cat.

Keep chirping, you are about to get eaten.

Lol.

Old guys know.

I'm not a hater, but if I have one more kid come up to me and ask if I "whip it" , I will have no choice but seppuku. No - I literally built my car not to slide.

Damn skid racers...

Right! We all strive for the most traction possible and they just want to lose it.

But hey at least they get mad props bacefook and graminsta

Whip it? I've never heard that term before. At least not in the context of drifting a car.

If this really does happen to you that often, it might be worth spending a few dollars some kind of portable audio player (the kind, like a Staples Easy button, where it just plays one single clip when you press a button), and loading it with an excerpt from Devo's 1980 magnum opus Whip It

Considering putting a radio back in my car for just this reason. ^^^

go fuck yourself.

do it now.

They call me Hector. Got a last name too, but I can't pronounce it.

The urgency of this :rofl:

hurry!

The original message before it was edited...

Aint gonna regurgitate dozens of discussions on why we don't particularly fancy drifting around here for a delicate little snowflake, and besides my original post was more of a joke and OP knows me enough to get it. Shlammed getting shlammed is a whole 'nuther topic altogether, which I also aint regurgitating (just leave it at: he had it coming for a very long time). So quit 'yer whining because there's actually numerous dor1fto people here that almost never get any hate, and you're just encouraging it with your whining.

I was never defending Shlammed, nor did I bring it up until 18psi commented on it before anyone else(which he changed)
I don’t even have a problem with messing around like this thread was. The only thing I am trying to figure out is why a good portion of “the higher ups” don’t like the sport to the point that any thread ever posted with the word drift in it gets poked at. The answer seems to be always coming back to the “send it” kids. It’s just crazy that we for the most part are all knowledgeable people and do not act like this, yet we’re getting categorized in with those kids. I’m not trying to lecture anyone, sorry. It’s starting to get like that, so I’m going to unsubscribe from this thread. I’m just stubborn and feel the need to comment back when someone posts something.

It's a great story!
I really have no care if you do or do not like the sport. I have no faults with anyone if they don't like it either. I'm not trying to convert anyone, nor am I trying to be an ass about anything. My original intentions were to post a response, mostly in jest, about how it was odd that a thread involving a handful of friendly dudes connecting and reliving the past was poked at again (they all sound significantly older as well which I find funny because this is a "millennial sport")
Again, I'm not offended, I don't care what we do or don't like here as a whole, and at the end of the day this is the best Miata forum for information. I'm simply here because because I keep getting emails about it. I'm stubborn and feel the need to reply back, so I'm unsubscribing to hopefully let it go.

I very much agree. As someone who also deals with this, I think a good majority of those people are the same ones that would yell at a Scion xB to "whip it" or "swing it" or whatever the hell it is. These people aren't car enthusiasts and have no idea what they are talking about in respect to our hobby. It's that Saturday night meet crowd that has unfortunately given all those that enjoy it a bad name.

Can everybody stop saying snowflake? Its super cringey.

"Swing-it" that's what I was looking for.

Using cringey unironically is really cringey.