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Old 02-03-2012, 06:33 PM   #41
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No. It's a truck motor. Nice try.

Stein, I'm pretty sure that's how most of our first drives have been. Mine was a spur of the moment because I'm tired of wrenching on it and just want to make it hate life kind of thing.
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Okay, so I've been contemplating a V-8 swap for some time now, in various platforms. One question: knowing the work it took, and the time invested, would you do it again? If so, would you do it the same, or not? What significant changes would you make with the benefit of hindsite?
It depends on the individual. I enjoy fab work. I have just bought another Miata to hack up as I'm in fabrication withdrawals already. The time it took was irrelevant to me. I probably have 500-600 hours in this swap making everything myself. Monster Miata claims you can do the wwap with thier kit in 50-60 hours. I'd double that but even 100 hours is short compared to mine. The kit is $4k. What is your time worth to you? Because I did this as a hobby with no completion date in mind, it didn't factor in. It's a fifth vehicle for me so I didn't need to get it on the road. The 5.0 is easier to DIY fab the subframe. The LS1 is harder to fit.

If you are going with a kit the monster kit is good but if going with the cost of a kit, I'd go LS1. More HP, more modern motor, lighter swap. More expensive, though. Motor/trans will be $2K-3K more money. Low end if you go L33 higher end for LS1. T56 transmissions are $1200 vs $200 for a Ford T5. Header fit is still an issue with the LS1 although I hear that they may have that whupped now.
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So you think a 00 exploder stock motor+t5 in a 00 miata done cleanly and correctly (retaining emissions equip) would actually sneak past the ref over here?

Sorry for semi-off topic quesiton

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How much did this approx cost? I know you did tons of fab yourself and didn't buy off the shelf (which is something I'd do too) but whats an honest figure to be looking at all said and done? I think I saw you throw 10k out in some thread. is that for everything or just motor+swap not counting original car?
It is a truck motor which can't be swapped into a car in Kalifornia.

I think I'm at $12K but I haven't totaled it up. $2K for the car so yeah, about $10K in the swap itself. I spent some cash on parts not needed, plus I have included $3200 in paint and bodywork.
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No. It's a truck motor. Nice try.

Stein, I'm pretty sure that's how most of our first drives have been. Mine was a spur of the moment because I'm tired of wrenching on it and just want to make it hate life kind of thing.
Its not really a 'truck' motor... Ford racing sold them as crate 5.0s for a while, it has the 'gt40p' heads and 'gt40' intake like the 93 cobra had. swap the truck cam and its more cobra motor than truck... Or is there some california rule about it being swapped from a truck? You could always run a stock mustang 5.0 intake (barf)
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Kalifornia knows that there were no car 5.0 after 95? 96? I don't recall which. In either case, there can't be a 99 or 00 car 5.0
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Kalifornia can suck a bag of d1cks
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Kalifornia can suck a bag of d1cks
They already do. It's called San Francisco.
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Stein, thanks for the response. For me, swap would probably be an LSx motor, and I'd be purchasing at least a crossmember, as my welding skills are non-existant. Not the place to be practicing!

I'm seriously considering a mid 1980's 944. My concerns are with wiring (I hate it!) and ECU. It'd have to be done on a fairly tight budget, as it would be a toy. It would also have to be completed fairly quickly, or I'd lose interest and it would sit unfinished. Hence purchasing some sort of kit.
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Great job John,
Looks beautiful so far.

but

MOAR PICS AND MOAR VIDEOS (should go without saying actually )

I wonder how much cheaper/easier this is to do vs the LSx swap.
Biggest problem on LSx is headers, and w/ CA **** emissions that's a no-go. If the headers on this thing drop right in that means there's much more room which means (hopefully) the stock headers will bolt right on and POSSIBLY pass a state ref here in CA?

I'm probably dreaming
What about the 3.9 from the Lincoln LS V8 (maybe too wide since its a modular ford), Mazda KL from a Mazda Millenia L ('97-'02), Mustang 3.9 (again maybe too wide because modular), mustang 3.8 (I think thats a windsor based engine, so not wide like a modular, more like the old 5.0 me thinks), V6 from the -'02 Camaro/Firebird. I'm trying to think what chevy had rwd and a decent engine. The Camaro engine may be your best bet, otherwise your only option I can think of is a swap into an NA.
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