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Old 02-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #21
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i am fairly certain that the GTS did not come turbocharged, they made more power because of their VVTL-i and were NA
Er i'm with him ^. They GT-S were not turbo stock, they were 180 hp, but made **** torque. The benefits over the stock "GT" was a higher compression and the VVTL-i. I'm talking like.. they make so little torque they were made fun of constantly on the honda forums.
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I know for a fact that the GTS Celica is not boosted from the factory
it simly has another gear (6), and valve lift control over the GT, along with a more aggressive tune and raised redline
no biggie
here is the best celica evaah
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:13 PM   #23
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no, only the alltracs had turbos. it would have been a 2ZZ-GTE otherwise and those dont exist. T is for turbo. 3S-GTE was the turbo motor in the alltrac / mr2.

and the celica racing the bike on the interstate may have been an older 91-93 ST185 alltrac. the video is long gone but it was pretty awesome. I think that was 400some awhp.
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I really like the alltrac celicas. Top gear did a special on them a long while back and it got me liking them. Too bad they are extremely rare...and if found will cost you a lumpsum.
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" One second he has half a length on me, and the next second I'm in another county. "

i laughed at that one

i cant wait to get ms/fuel pump/injectors so i can rape wrx's, they make me upset
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" One second he has half a length on me, and the next second I'm in another county. "

i laughed at that one

i cant wait to get ms/fuel pump/injectors so i can rape wrx's, they make me upset
you dont need a fuel pump, MS and injectors wil provide you all the fuel you need for well over 250whp
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:55 PM   #27
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Nice!


I haven't really gotten into many dig runs with the new car, but have had a few rolls. I ran a spankin new Infiniti G and pulled on him (i think they're up to like 330hp now).

i'VE annihilated more then my fair share of civic so far though. Got pulled on by a GC8/2.5RS with a turbo (bet it was a EJ20 swap). Tried running a Crossfire SRT-6 from a dig..... walked his *** off the line only to miss 2nd :(
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:52 PM   #28
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You are all correct, it is NOT and OEM turbo car. I don't know what I googled that made me think it was turbo'd stock... but this guy last night was definitely boostin.

Seventh generation / 2000-2005,
Standard Equipment
- Aerodynamic projector beam/multi-reflector halogen headlamps with Daytime Running Lights and auto on/off
- Color-keyed bumpers and door handles
- Dual color-keyed power outside mirrors
- Washer-linked intermittent windshield wipers
- Tinted glass
- P195/60R15 tires on 15" steel wheels with full wheel cover
- Heavy-duty electric rear window defogger
- Instrument cluster with tachometer (digital LCD fuel gauge and odometer with twin tripmeters, oil pressure)
- Digital quartz clock
- Dual sun visors with driver and passenger vanity mirror
- Tilt steering wheel
- Driver and passenger front air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
- CFC-free air conditioning
- Fabric-trimmed 6-way adjustable front sport seats
- 50/50 split/fold-down rear seat
- Fabric door trim with integrated speakers and dual map pockets
- Center console with storage compartment
- Dual front and rear cup holders
- Hood and fuel-filler door releases
- Deluxe 3-in-1 AM/FM ETR/Cassette/CD with 6 speakers
Option Packages

- Upgrade Package - includes power windows and door locks, and cruise control
- Cold Area Package - includes heavy-duty battery and starter motor, and intermittent rear window wiper
- 15" 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels
- Anti-lock Brake System (ABS)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with retained power and sunshade
- Rear spoiler and fog lamps
- Driver and passenger front seat-mounted side-impact air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
- Premium 3-in-1 AM/FM ETR/Cassette/CD with 8 speakers
Celica GT-S
Transmission: 6-speed manual -standard; 4-speed Sportshift electronically controlled transmission (ECT) -available

Standard Equipment (GT Standard Equipment plus)

- Integrated fog lamps
- P205/55R15 tires on 15" 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels
- Cold Area Package - includes heavy-duty battery and starter motor, and intermittent rear window wiper
- Drilled aluminum pedals
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and manual shift lever
- Cruise control
- Power windows with retained power and driver's auto-down feature -Power door locks with anti-lockout feature
- Premium 3-in-1 AM/FM ETR/Cassette/CD with 8 speakers
Additional Options

- P205/50R16 tires on 16" 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels
- Anti-lock Brake System (ABS)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with retained power and sunshade
- Rear spoiler
- Leather-trimmed sport sea
- Driver and passenger front seat-mounted side-impact air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
- Hood hold-down hooks
- Side-impact door beams
- Daytime Running Lights (DRL) with auto on/off feature
- Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) -available
- Driver and front passenger air bag Supplemental Restraint System (SRS)
- Driver and front passenger seat-mounted side impact air bag (SRS) -available
- 3-point seatbelts in all seating positions
- Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) on driver's belt, Automatic/Emergency Locking Retractors (ALR/ELR) on all other seatbelts
- Adjustable front seatbelt shoulder anchors
- Soft upper interior trim
Accessories

- Front-end mask
- Gold Emblem Package
- Wheel locks
- Center console armrest
- Carpeted floor mats
- RS3200 Security System
- Cargo net
- 6-disc trunk-mounted CD changer
Color & Trim: White, silver, red, spectra or carbon blue, black; interior, black or black with silver, red, or blue cloth, and, for GT-S only, black leather trim.

Powertrain and other specs where the GT and GT-S differ
Feature GT GT-S
Valve timing Variable, with intelligence Variable valve timing and lift with intelligence
Compression ratio 10.0:1 11.5:1
Ignition Direct; multiple point Direct; multiple point
Horsepower 140 hp @ 6,400 rpm 180 hp @ 7,600 rpm
Torque 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm 130 lb.-ft. @ 6,800 rpm
Manual transmission 5-speed 6-speed
Automatic transmission 4-speed electronically controlled (ECT) 4-speed Sportshift electronically controlled (ECT)
Bore and stroke 79.0 mm x 91.5 mm 82.0 mm x 85.0 mm
Brakes Power-assisted with 10.0" ventilated front disc/rear drum Power-assisted with 10.8" ventilated front disc/10.6" solid rear disc
Weight 2,425-2,460 lbs.
2,500-2,580 lbs.
EPA mileage, manual 28/34 24/32
EPA mileage, auto 27/34
24/30

Other specifications
Front suspension Independent MacPherson strut front suspension
Rear suspension Double wishbone
Steering Rack-and-pinion with power-assist, 36.1 ft turning circle
Width 68.3 inches
Length 170.5
Height 51.4
Wheelbase 102.4
Ground clearance 5.5
Tread width 58.6 front, 58.2 rear
Drag coefficient (cd) 0.32
Headroom 38.4/35.0
Shoulder room 52.6/50.6
Hip room 51.3/46.8
Leg room 33.3/25.4
Passenger volume 76.3-78.3 (w/out moonroof)
Cargo volume 16.9 cubic feet
Gas tank 14.5
Wheels 15 inch, steel or aluminum alloy
Tires P195/60 or P205/55 or P205/50

Pricing (with destination charge)
1992 1993 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002
GT manual $17,185 $17,440 $17,570
GT automatic $17,980 $18,240 $18,370
GT-S manual $21,650 $21,910 $22,040
GT-S automatic $22,350 $22,610 $22,740
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SpamNavy returns as "copypastenavy".
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toyota will bring the celica back, they have to, the scion just wont cut it in the perfomance world
and just so anyone knows, the Tc is not a celica replacement, nor was it intended to be one!
Toyota has to come out with anything boosted and either RWD or AWD and tackle the younger market again...
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they need to bring the supra back 1st.....
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:54 PM   #32
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they need the 98 supra back, with a light face lift, nothing major, i love how the supra looks
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:03 PM   #33
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in todays dollars the a true to it's name supra would be way to expensive to be successful for toyota
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:18 PM   #34
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same with the awd turbo celicas. back in 1988 the alltrac was $21,000. I imagine the average honda civic was around 5000?
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I sold my 88 st165 alltrac to start my civic. The s3gte was a great engine, lots of potential with just a mbc, but it was dead heavy and the interior is terrible. I would still like a ST185 , though.
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By the way, nice kill, even if it was fwd!
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lol I can't believe how much misinformation is floating around this thread. I thought I cleared up what engine it had in it on the last page... Anyway I think this celica would have had to be boosting because I know a couple gt-s' with I/H/E/underdrive pulleys that only run 10.0's in the 1/8th... in order to get even into the low 9's they have to go turbo or do a **** ton of work to the motor(or spray of course). I'm running low 9's and i'd imagine you're either somewhere around me or faster(high 8's).
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toyota will bring the celica back, they have to, the scion just wont cut it in the perfomance world
and just so anyone knows, the Tc is not a celica replacement, nor was it intended to be one!
Toyota has to come out with anything boosted and either RWD or AWD and tackle the younger market again...
I think the scion was created to sell these little emo ***** into thinking they're buying 'cool' race cars. They're a joke to me especially the tc. Can't count how many turbocharged scions there are around here which I walk in my bone stock MS6.


Another kid has a 100 wet kit on his tc and can't even keep up with my best friends 94 JRSC non-intercooled p-p-p-pwercard!! miata.

Everytime I see a scion I just go .
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theres this one scione around my area,
i raced it once, and the kid blew my doors off
later i found out it was built, he runs 11's.....
the thing didnt look highly modified,
he had wide *** wheels , a drop, and muffler,
i failed to notice the intercooler, it was black

to say the least, i was surprised...
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The Xb is actually made by Daewoo. Case closed.

Toyota is now simply about the profits. While GM is trying to build higher quality cars. Hmm.
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