yeah I'm in Palm Harbor right now, but next time you are around just let me know as we have weekly meets every wednesday night around here and you're welcome to come check some stuff out.

I will never understand the bashing on Miata.net. It is by FAR the best specific automotive forum. Sure they dont accept stupid shit but why is that a reason to bash on them? There information still amazes me to this day its almost like they could close it down forever and there will be everything you will ever need to know. Anyways this thread sucks.

I've noticed M.neters don't like thinking outside the box, the find a good vendor and believe in everything they sell and do.

Read supercharger guys posts. Always fueling problems cause they refuse to believe in a RRFPR, but since JR came out with a powercard their lives are saved and have the time they aren't hooking them up right or even working good enough.

Read the suspension forums. Only a few acceptable setups allowed for discussion. Theories or new products are usually bashed untill they give up.

Just too many people with strong opinions and mods catering to sponsors, you really have to sift through the shit to find interesting reading.

Regardless I post there everyday for info and trying to recruit newbies to the FI section there over here so they can get answers, not drama.

Yes, there would be stuff you would want to read.. but there would also be about 2.7 billion useless posts based on opinion.

God forbid you recommend a $2000 turbo set up after a mod recommends a $4500 set up plus a $2000 stand alone. BTW, the original poster was after ~160 rwhp and drivability.

cause really f'n expensive supercharger setups that barely work as advertised is much better than doing things yourself.

I like it here. I like it at m.net. I guess I just like reading and planning my turbo path for that day I can afford it (getting impatient). I just read read read and ignore a lot. But yeah, there's more to ignore at m.net.

couldn't agree more

the mods there :td: , sheesh talk about "my way or the highway" kind of attitude and being so condescending all the damn time.

I wanted to reply to this thread earlier but decided to keep my mouth shut. Condescending was the exact word I was going to use also.

Thats what got me here. I still use the site, it still is a good resource, no need to knock it for that. You just have to sift thru all the bullshit...

My fav car related forum btw is vwvortex, ive been a member there since 2002 right about the time I picked up a gti. Its since been totaled, but im still on there.

The miata is a favorite among members there:bigtu:

Oh, man, really?! I'm a new member over there since I bought a Jetta 2.0T, and I hate that place! I would wager I feel the same way about that forum that a bunch of you knuckleheads feel about Miata.net :eek5:

Well the vortex is a HUGE forum and certain sub-forums within it have certain groups of users that have their so called "views" on things and what not. Since I dont have my dub anymore, I dont view the model specific forums. Those are where a lot of the elitism is. I guess ive been on there so long that I know when I see BS and just avoid it. Its better off that way.

Another thing I noticed is that we all love BEGi here, whereas they all love FM there. Another example of sticking with a vendor over the man behind the beast. It's entertaining reading Corky vs Keith over there disputing turbo theories.

I'm not saying FM is a bad company, but Corky was the one who taught them everything and they did the marketing and selling.

Some people over there have great info, some are stuck up too. You suck:td:

it sounds like you've never had a thread totally get bashed/closed/the dredded mod pm(ohhhh) on somthing that is totally taste or completely preference based settings... your car is too low, those wheels are too wide, only fmII kit is worth looking at, ubercharger is the only true god, ect.

your low offset wheels will kill the wheel bearings prematurely! you'll only get 100k miles out of them now. wtfever

if i get 100K out of my current setup i think i would quite happily replace the stuff with better and do it agian. some of those people just dont get that you buy sticky tires and make cars fast to enjoy them not to polish and wax on them sure that will get you babes but, i would rather be wrneching or driving on my car than washing and waxing it.

The classic example; Mark Booth's Ride (M.net moderator)

http://thephotobooth.smugmug.com/gallery/137043

It's a pretty sweet interior though...

thats how i found this place.

nice seats, wanna race.

You don't get near as much Astroglide splashback in your eyes from vendor stroking over on the Vortex like you do at M.net. You do get the sheep mentality though when it comes to styling...at least in the MKIII forum. Those guys are also really reluctant to jump on the water injection as well since no Vortex Allstars are running it. Most my VW sales were from my close buddies who all run boosted Vr6's.

:bigtu: I was just looking at the site and there is a guy that did his timing belt, messed it up and now is dead set on rebuilding his engine. He is dead set on changing out the pistos and not just using a thinner head gasket or shaving the heads. People are funny sometimes. But, I went there first, and from there I found out about you guys over here. I was reading posts, and very few people have any idea what they are talking about over there, and those people are the ones from over here. You guys really know your shit here. I can work the hell out of a small block chevy, but these little motors over here are a totally different beast. I can admit that I do not know that much about FI and these engines, but I am learning, and I have you guys to thank for it. Braineak, you are the guy that made me go FI with my car, and I am currently waiting on my shit to get here. But anyways, you guys rock here.:bigtu:

I have a problem of doing that! :)

there are guys over there that know their shit too, just a higher ratios of know-it-alls. But for the most part you'll find the wine & cheesers, newbs, ricers, and gearheads.

I never admit I know everything, but I try to learn everything I possible can and understand exactly what it is I'm doing and help everyone else out with what I've come to grips with. I seriously read a chapter of Maximum Boost a night and try to understand it. I go back and reread it all the time. I'm still learning, but I know my way around boosting a miata for the most part. Heck, I know nothing about engine management, that's why I only mention it in my FAQ.

I wasn't saying that no one over there knows anything, just that a majority of the people that do, come from this site. My apologies for offending you in any way.

didnt offend me Sucka!

loosen up steve and VTA your pcv. comeon guys lets hit 50,000 by saturday. m.net has alot of wine and cheesers. i look at it as m.net is wallmart for miatas and we are autozone the guys over in the walmart car section might know how to do some shit but more likely you get an old man who could barely change his oil at anytime in his life and at autozone you have 3-4 guys that work there for a job and the discount on parts as in they know what to get and how to put it in and sometimes how to use it. actualy finding alot of the stuff you will need for an FI miata at autozone is challenging to say the least though. so we both have our limitations

LS1GTO.com is the WORST sponsor sackrider forum.

if they're not a sponsor, you can't discuss it.
if they ARE a sponsor, their product is the best, newest, cheapest, longest lasting, shiniest etc even if it isn't.

Boy I get tired of getting shitty product forced on me because they pay the webmaster 150 bucks a month while a better product goes by that I don't know about because they don't pay up.

they have to be turning a hell of a profit over there. bunch of pricks. (yes I've been banned many, MANY times :gay: )

just like your groupbuy, you could have benefited maybe 20 or 30 guys over there and saved them some money but you can't post it because you're not a fucking sponsor?

devil's own IS a sponsor, and they wouldn't let you sell their product?

What a crock of fucking shit. Not at all out for the community, strictly out to line their pockets.

are you on m.net?

no :ugh:

You should go and get everyone to switch. show them how to put ls2's and a back seat into there stretched miatas with hopped up blowers. it could work i was jeulous of yuor 4 seater miata from the start btw love the channeled coupe body almost looks factory. LOL

Have you hit up the other ls1 sites like ls1lt1, camaroz28 (this one has a lot of good vendors there). I got my heads and cam through them for my camaro for a real good deal. A lot of the head porters and stuff hang out there. If I can recommend a good head porter for those cars, it would be lloyd elliot. Very impressive heads, when I got them, they looked like I should have framed them, not put them on an engine.

Also, there is a guy with a 2005 gto with a twin turbo setup out here, awesome ride, the sts turbo systems are also real nice too.

you got head from a guy named :rly: loyd was it expensive:gay: :ughug: :friday: :yippee: :ky:

It was $1700 for the heads and the cam. Great guy to deal with, very intelligent about what he is talking about. He got almost 300cfm out of my lt1 heads. That is almost unheard of, he can get about 330cfm on a ls1/ls6 head for a very competetive price. And like I said earlier, you don't want to put them on a car because they are so nice. Oh so shiny, and he will also work with you to help you determine what cam is the best for your app.

nice :bigtu: 300 more cfm that is very impressive. you would have to bump the comp numbers considerably or up the displacement quite abit to use it how bout his intake velocity did that go down to much you would think makeing it flow that much would slow it considerably.

It did about as much as you would expect, that is why the extra 38 cubes make up for the loss of velocity, I had 430 ft-lbs at just 1600 rpm, now that is a rear end eater.:crx: I just chewed threw my first stock rear and got a replacement stocker for free from a friend.

yeah i need to dyno mine someday. what kinda 60 fts you pulling i assume on slicks

If I put it on slicks with another junk rear end, it will just tear this one up. If I control wheelspin, probably about 5secs. At the terrible quater mile track here on oahu, I ran a 12.1@126mph. There is so much time left on the table out here because I was spinning still spinning the rears when I gunned it in 3rd gear. They shut down the track out here, so there is nothing but autocross now. Miata=only thing that is left to do on this island.

yeah i pull 12's low 8's 1/8th mile on mine with less tham 460whp but that is the afram suspension factory 4 link baby. 60 was 1.5-1.3 had more but it was driver not machine. ie shifting hurst and muncy only do so much

Cool, traction limited 2.1 60ft, very shitty track out here, but there was also fear of killing the factory 10 bolt rearend. With slicks, I could get down to probably mid 11's. Just not enough traction.

get a 12

Yeah, just got to get the funds. Those things are expensive. Looking at the moser. Also, the strange S-60 is out now and that thing is damn near indestructible, but REALLY heavy. It will add a bit too much weight to the rear end of the car. For now, I am going to just focuss on the miata, my greddy just came in and gotta get that done first.

hell yaeh let me know if i can help wiith info :bigtu:

I am glad I found this forum. There people who know what they are talking about on the other forum, but weeding through all the bs to get to them was too much. I just wanted to learn more about my car and see what others were doing to theirs. Hmmm FMII, koni, bilstein, tein, FCM bumpstops...anything else and your retarded for not following the pack.

DIY turbosection will end up being my home. My motor build is progressing very slowly at this point, but I have time. Disco Potato is in my future.

You're retarded for not following the pack! :vash:

I have found a home here on this forum. Best smart ass welcome i've ever had on a forum. :fawk:

:rly:

how far you gonna go Joey? remember thos katskin seats will make your miata alot faster as well, and 185-60 r14 is all the rubber we need. yeah sometimes you kjust have ot think for yourself and do what feels right.

I decided on the GT28R not because of anyone with a Miata. A friend put a FullForce kit on an Elise. That car is insane now. If it could do that for the Toyota 1.8 it should do well for mine.

Besides the turbo, tinted windows should be right at home on the Miata along with a very large APC sticker on the back plastic window.

ban the noob no apc stickers it isnt a honda comeon man

Just say no to rice.

Actually, I do have a couple SCCA stickers on it....LOL

nice save get some nhra stickers to balance that out. :bigtu:

Since its an R model...I need to install one of those pimp Skyline GTR badges that people keep putting on their mustangs around here....LMAO

:hahano: :nxsmile: :yippee: :fawk: :vash: :crx: just racem and smokem you dont need no cop magnets

Hmmmmm I wonder if my STi wing will fit on the Miata:eek:

I wonder if anyone who notice if I just stopped posting over there and just started posting over here. ;) Hmmm, can I get sponsored to post on Miata.net and get a slice of all that money Gary has been making?

Mark

See, that wasn't so hard was it.... took what? one PM?

Mark

miata.net would fall to pieces if all the respected posters like you and other just up and left. haha it would be funny. i mostly use miata.net just to search, that's really about it

me to glad you finally started over here markp