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Fathom55 05-29-2013 02:14 PM

Garage Lifts
 
Any body have any experience with swapping their garage door to accommodate a garage lift? I'm curious as to what the pit falls are. Any drawbacks?

2ndGearRubber 05-29-2013 06:13 PM

Are you talking about an in-ground (dig up the floor, usually hydraulic) or above ground lift (two tall posts, electric cable system)?

Fathom55 05-29-2013 07:39 PM

Sorry, Above ground.

2ndGearRubber 05-29-2013 07:52 PM

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Okay. Well, we've got one of these at our shop.

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One of the hydraulic lifts broke, and that was cheaper. Posts are about 12 feet tall. It's electric powered, so you don't have to worry about supporting it via jack-stands when you're not working on it. The offset arm lengths are kind of a pain, especially for racking something as small as a miata.


As for the garage doors, I think the easiest method would be this.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BxhPa_i99h...9.29.16+AM.png


Yes, I am aware that's probably a normal garage door. I'd make it a "gate-style door, with the doors opening like a typical french door set. Offset the hinges back a bit, so the opening remains the same. I'd figure normal weather stripping would work well enough around the seals. Use a simple post, with a nice rope or polished chain, to hold the doors open. Stylish, and unbelievably functional.



tl;dr - Unless you garage is really tall, it ain't gunna fit. Electric garage door + lift + short roof = Not gonna happen.

miata2fast 05-29-2013 09:49 PM

Why not a roll up style door?

Mobius 05-30-2013 01:00 AM

Edited my misunderstanding.

If a rollup door can be found that is aesthetically pleasing enough that would work.

Pinky 05-30-2013 02:36 AM

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Piece of cake..

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Yes, we plonked the same roof right back on top of the new stub walls... Made some partial "storage mezzanines" to bolster the strength of the long walls, and reconnected the same roll door tracks to them. The only limitation was that you can't have the door open when a car is up in the air, but it otherwise works great. Took a day and a couple buddies (and a crane) to do the whole thing.

Pinky 05-30-2013 02:56 AM

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For a less radical option, without sweating the garage door at all, consider one of these mid-rise scissor lifts. Not the greatest for pulling a trans or installing an exhaust, but it works great for most routine stuff.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1369896909

miata2fast 05-30-2013 07:22 AM

Pinky, raising the roof like that is exactly what our friend and neighbor did to his shop.

curly 05-30-2013 09:23 AM

I feel like those scissor lifts are only for the lazy or older people. Doesn't seem like there's anything you can do on those that you can't do bent over with some jack stands. Less even, since you can technically get some big jack stands and a tranny jack and swap trannys. If you wanna hate your life that is.

I've told the fiance that the one requirement when we move to another home is that the garage gets bigger. Our econo single car garage is not cutting it. I also described the benefits of a lift.

"well get one then!"

She's a keeper.

hornetball 05-30-2013 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1016547)
I've told the fiance that the one requirement when we move to another home is that the garage gets bigger. Our econo single car garage is not cutting it. I also described the benefits of a lift.

"well get one then!"

She's a keeper.

LOL. Emphasis on "fiancee." Just wait. :bowrofl:

Stein 05-30-2013 10:06 AM

I don't have a lift right now because when I asked about it all she said was "is it a need or a want?" and I hesitated for just a half second and that sealed my fate.

Fathom55 05-30-2013 10:14 AM

I was thinking something with more of a store the miata in the air and park a small car underneath it application.

Was curious if anyone had been able to this in a regular garage.

Pinky 05-30-2013 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 1016547)
I feel like those scissor lifts are only for the lazy or older people. Doesn't seem like there's anything you can do on those that you can't do bent over with some jack stands. Less even, since you can technically get some big jack stands and a tranny jack and swap trannys. If you wanna hate your life that is.


Partially agreed. They're not great for stuff under the middle of the car, but they're not useless either. It's sure a lot nicer to work on brakes and suspension standing up rather than crawling around on the ground. Same goes for anything that requires getting under the motor; starters, oil changes, changing hoses and rads, the list goes on and on. I use my two post most of the time, but the mid-rise is handy when I have something on the big lift waiting for parts and such. If I couldn't fit a two-post in a garage I'd definitely prefer having a mid-rise over working on my back. They're also great for detailing, body work and paint prep.

Ryan_G 05-30-2013 10:22 AM

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Like so?

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concealer404 05-30-2013 10:49 AM

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Like this?

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Scrappy Jack 05-30-2013 11:08 AM

I am not sure I understand the question. What do you have now and what would you swap the garage door to?

If you have a roll-up garage door (i.e. the normal style), I would think the question of whether or not a 4-post lift will fit is going to be more of a function of your ceiling height.

nickt93 05-30-2013 11:27 AM

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I bought this Bend Pak P6 for $1300 brand new. I've had it for a year and it has already paid for itself in time savings and reduced hassle. Can I stand underneath it? No. Does it save time on a ton of common jobs? Absolutely. It takes me all of about 10 minutes to change four wheels and tires (and two front brake pads) now to get ready for the track.

The center section is entirely open, so no problem using it for working on transmission, clutch, exhaust, suspension, or the underside of the motor/ engine bay.

For a value option, this one is hard to beat.

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Leafy 05-30-2013 11:54 AM

Thats really interesting. I have not seen a scissor lift in that style before.

For the ceiling limited wanting a bit more than that scissor style. There's always a 4 post lift. IMO in a residential install they're safer than a 2 post because there's less change of a tipping failure. And you you put it on a standard thickness concrete pad rather than an extra thick one.

hornetball 05-30-2013 11:59 AM

I'm ceiling challenged. That Bend Pak looks like a nice option. Hmmmmm . . . .

Curly, can I borrow your fiancee to ask permission?


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