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samnavy 04-09-2011 05:40 PM

Help me catch this guy... video surveillance!
 
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I live on base... generally awesome housing, big yards, huge trees, brand new playgrounds, quiet and secure. Some kid around here has gotten bored and started opening gates. It's turning into an issue... he seems to be targeting yards with dogs. It's a problem.

We got hit sometime this morning between 8am and 9am. I let the dogs out to take a piss and clean up the morning mess. I walked right by the gate several time and would have noticed if it was open. Around 0930, one of the neighbors brought the dogs back as they were out running in the street.

I was thinking remote camera, audible alarm, trap-door-punji-stick-pit, napalm strike.

My favorite is a stealthy camera install in the tree.

Decent illuminated outdoor bullet camera:
http://www.amazon.com/VideoSecu-Bull...383753&sr=1-16

The cameras can be had everywhere and aren't really the hard part. Getting power out to the camera and the signal back to the house is easy with extension cables. I could also go wireless.

BUT... what's the DIY method for recording? I've got portable hard-drives and spare laptop's. My desktop stays on 24/7, so I could plug in a portable HD and record through the desktop. I'd love to do it through a USB port so I don't have to add a dedicated video card. A dedicated Video Surveillance DVR is about $125.

I was thinking about something like this but can't find a name-brand device with a decent rep: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...7BBTkwCjCECjCE

Anybody else into 007 shit?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...3&d=1302385327

Braineack 04-09-2011 05:45 PM

talk to Rick about what he uses.

fooger03 04-09-2011 06:24 PM

UAV....











....with hellfires

Vashthestampede 04-09-2011 07:24 PM

I've recently been looking into a camera solution myself for down at the shop. Its probably a bit overkill for what you need, but this is one of the systems I might get.

It comes with the DVR unit and 4 cameras.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

18psi 04-09-2011 07:24 PM

just hire a sniper

jacob300zx 04-09-2011 09:47 PM

Hunting tree camera's work good.

miatamania 04-09-2011 10:01 PM

This thread has much potential. I have no experience with any cameras.

samnavy 04-09-2011 10:22 PM

Damn... even with all my use over the years of hunting camera's, that hadn't even entered thought. It's perfect... fully remote, batteries last forever...

Most of them are the size of a damned bookshelf speaker because they don't have to be stealth. If you went out and hid them from the animals, then you probably shouldn't be allowed near firearms.

I need to find a small one that will go up on a tree branch. I need it to shoot down onto the area outside the fence.

hustler 04-09-2011 10:35 PM

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samnavy 04-09-2011 10:42 PM

^Yah, I know... but fuck that. I shouldn't have to lock my gate because some fucking kid doesn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy. If I lived out in town, I'd remove the little piece of hemp that you pull on to open the gate and replace it with a piece of wire... and hook it up to a a fucking light socket.

But this is on base... people around here are supposed to be a little more reliable. Plus, there was some graffiti in the new $80k park behind my house that I had to go scrub off, and I'd love to catch the fucker with a few magic markers in his pocket.

hustler 04-09-2011 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 712475)
^Yah, I know... but fuck that. I shouldn't have to lock my gate because some fucking kid doesn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy. If I lived out in town, I'd remove the little piece of hemp that you pull on to open the gate and replace it with a piece of wire... and hook it up to a a fucking light socket.

But this is on base... people around here are supposed to be a little more reliable. Plus, there was some graffiti in the new $80k park behind my house that I had to go scrub off, and I'd love to catch the fucker with a few magic markers in his pocket.

Urine water balloon.

thirdgen 04-09-2011 10:55 PM

By the time you read this, My CPU will have been terminated.
My brother is 007. He is (was) a rogue specialist who was sworn to protect the preservation of the Aryan race, which would be protected by the machines...(cyberdyne systems model 101's).

kotomile 04-09-2011 11:05 PM

In for result.

x808drifter 04-09-2011 11:05 PM

No lock = Even easier to steal your shit.

gooflophaze 04-09-2011 11:41 PM

If you're Linuxy or have an old PC hanging around, there is zoneminder. http://www.zoneminder.com/

kotomile 04-10-2011 12:24 AM

Hide in the bushes and paintball the crap out of the kid?

j/k. I know you can't do that. But he'd learn his lesson.

southernmx5 04-10-2011 12:35 AM

rubber bullets.. and bear mace

rider384 04-10-2011 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 712485)
In for result.

+1. Too many potentially awesome threads end up going nowhere.

dustinb 04-10-2011 01:02 AM

Buy a cheap ass car alarm, get a 12v battery, and hook up a switch to the gate so that if the switch is released and the alarm is armed, then it goes off. Plus you can feel baller disarming/arming your gate with a key fob.

switch: http://c3193032.r32.cf0.rackcdn.com/...c508f16596.jpg

Bryce 04-10-2011 01:30 AM

^That plus the camera.


That way if you're around when he does it you'll be able to chase him down and tackle him with one arm, then reach into your pocket with your other arm and... "bleep bleep". Your badassery will be caught on tape too! Freedom of speech is not free if it presents a clear and present danger of dog attack.

Quality Control Bot 04-10-2011 01:32 AM

I use a Lorex system with 8 cams on my house. Its amazing what you see at night, or atleast decipher. Reality is the quality at night lacks the farther away the bad people are from the cams.

But so far in the 2 years I have had the sys up and running I have captured:

- neighbors pissing on house
- neighbors pissing on my house some more
- neighbors selling dime bags to other neighbors
- neighbor letting dog shit on my yard and not cleaning it up
- stolen crv hitting light post, light post falling crushing crv
- tree branch falling on bro in laws hood putting a hole in it.
- 7 cedar trees being stolen from my yard (only caught the shadow from them moving and the motion lights :( )
- kids attempting to break into our cars
- neighbor after being asked not to piss on our house saying "fuck you" to the cam.
- neighbors drunk friends smashing their car and parking it on the lawn, then took off and swerved all up the road.

lol

During the day the cameras are mint.

I run a 1tb storage system and have my cams run constant record at different start times between 7:00 pm & 9:30 pm until 7 am. everything else is motion detected which also has its limitations.

Dryer vent heat makes the cams go nuts when in infrared mode at night.

Battery back up ( ups ) is a great added bonus. I added 2.

Remote access from other pcs is easy.

Overall the system is cheap china shit and the software is complete fail. The cams I have are about $240 a pop.
I have the system email me when a cam goes offline, this generally happens when the cam tries to figure out if its day or night. The odd one goes mental and flickers, an email gets sent to me. Out of the cameras only 2 flicker during the change over. I would be concerned if all 8 cams went down and I got 8 separate emails.

Most cam systems can be added to a regular home alarm system

The cam you would focus say on the gate can also send you an email on motion and sound an alarm.

Spiders love to create webs on the cams, guessing due to the infrared.

Lowered house insurance.

You will spend the first month watching wtf people are doing on your property.

gearhead_318 04-10-2011 01:37 AM

Fun ideas:
A) Get some electric fence stuff and electrify your fences door handle (I'm assuming it has a metal handle)

B) Run a piece of fishing line from the where on the ground where fence door meets the rest of the fence (the part that is not connected to the fence via door hinges), to where the door meets the fence, to a solid pole about 5-10 meters away. Then, thread the line through a screw hook so it turns around 180 degrees. Tie the line around the trigger of a paintball gun, (needs to me automatic) which will be pointed at the door so it shoots anyone that opens it.

C) Get a airbag off ebay, dig a hole in the pathway of where somebody would walk in order to or after opening your gate. Rig said airbag to go off if stepped on by trespasser. Put airbag in hole, and last cover the hole with grass so it looks like it did.

D) Get a exploding dye pack (the type bank tellers put in money bags when being robbed), and use your imagination to figure out how you'd like to paint this little bastard red. With red dye.

E) All of the above.

Remember, if you hit him with a few paint balls whats he gonna do? Go home and tell mommy and/or daddy that he got paint-balled while breaking into somebodies yard?

dgmorr 04-10-2011 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by Rick (Post 712522)
- neighbor after being asked not to piss on our house saying "fuck you" to the cam.

lol, do you happen to live near 403 and Dundas?

pusha 04-10-2011 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Rick (Post 712522)
I use a Lorex system with 8 cams on my house. Its amazing what you see at night, or atleast decipher. Reality is the quality at night lacks the farther away the bad people are from the cams.

But so far in the 2 years I have had the sys up and running I have captured:

- neighbors pissing on house
- neighbors pissing on my house some more
- neighbors selling dime bags to other neighbors
- neighbor letting dog shit on my yard and not cleaning it up
- stolen crv hitting light post, light post falling crushing crv
- tree branch falling on bro in laws hood putting a hole in it.
- 7 cedar trees being stolen from my yard (only caught the shadow from them moving and the motion lights :( )
- kids attempting to break into our cars
- neighbor after being asked not to piss on our house saying "fuck you" to the cam.
- neighbors drunk friends smashing their car and parking it on the lawn, then took off and swerved all up the road.

lol

During the day the cameras are mint.

I run a 1tb storage system and have my cams run constant record at different start times between 7:00 pm & 9:30 pm until 7 am. everything else is motion detected which also has its limitations.

Dryer vent heat makes the cams go nuts when in infrared mode at night.

Battery back up ( ups ) is a great added bonus. I added 2.

Remote access from other pcs is easy.

Overall the system is cheap china shit and the software is complete fail. The cams I have are about $240 a pop.
I have the system email me when a cam goes offline, this generally happens when the cam tries to figure out if its day or night. The odd one goes mental and flickers, an email gets sent to me. Out of the cameras only 2 flicker during the change over. I would be concerned if all 8 cams went down and I got 8 separate emails.

Most cam systems can be added to a regular home alarm system

The cam you would focus say on the gate can also send you an email on motion and sound an alarm.

Spiders love to create webs on the cams, guessing due to the infrared.

Lowered house insurance.

You will spend the first month watching wtf people are doing on your property.

Is living in a country that makes firearm ownership so difficult really that bad?

icantthink4155 04-10-2011 08:00 AM

Im no help, but Im getting pretty damn sick of vandalism becoming being a cool thing to do.

sixshooter 04-10-2011 10:26 AM

In for buried airbag w/pin switch trigger on gate and sign reading "Warning: Do not open this gate!"

sixace 04-10-2011 10:55 AM

Many eons ago, I used to work casino surveillance. We used this stuff to catch morons. http://www.homespy.com/powder.htm

I used it at my grandmothers condo when kids were vandalizing ac units.

Shits gone hi tech now. They have nano dust thats trackable by rfid..

Other cool stuff on that site, cams etc..

Assuming you are on a naval base, why not get the SP involved? Stakeout/sting?

RattleTrap 04-10-2011 03:23 PM

Lock.
I'd be more concerned with what might happen to my dogs if this little doof lets 'em out again.
Do the cam too. Why not? If enough in housing complain and you have photos, he'll be having a talk with the base police.

Pen2_the_penguin 04-10-2011 03:57 PM

Get this guy to rig up your surveillance system with a 249saw in place.

fooger03 04-10-2011 04:38 PM

interested in seeing how that flimsy piece handles the recoil of an actual bullet.

kotomile 04-10-2011 10:07 PM

Just call it a 249 or a SAW kthx. :D

Joe Perez 04-10-2011 10:23 PM

I like the airbag idea. Probably a criminal act, but I still like it. :D

Sam- would it be practical to just mount a miniature camcorder somewhere? Ie: does the perp always strike during daylight hours and within a predictable window of +/- an hour or two?

There are soime super-cheap camcorders here: http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=978

Dlaitini 04-11-2011 12:21 AM

find some kind of farm supply, and put up some electric wire around the top of the fence and/or handles of gates

If anyone asks, its to keep the dogs from jumping the fence.. and why is the handle electrified.. oh.. oops

web cams also do motion detection too.. not sure if you are willing to drag out 50' of use extension cable for that though

turotufas 04-11-2011 01:38 AM

Find a kid to do some undercover work. Infiltrate the local marijuana trade to start.

samnavy 04-11-2011 01:47 AM

I'm really liking the wireless IP camera idea. I've wanted to run power out to that tree anyways to hang a bug zapper, and my wireless router has direct line-of-sight out to the tree through a single-pane window... should be able to connect. Our home desktop stays on 24/7, so should be able to set it up to record to a spare thumbdrive.

I'm liking what I read about Foscam.
http://foscam.us/foscam-fi8904w-wire...-wpa-p-40.html

Seems pretty straightforward... the cam is really all I'll need to buy if I do it this way.

I'm thinking he just strikes randomly as he's walking through the park. Base housing here is pretty awesome. The streets are fairly standard "block" arrangement, but in the very center of the block is a park. Everybody's back gate opens onto a park. Go to Google Earth, find Malibu... travel 20miles up the coast to the base. All the base housing borders up against HWY1... you can see how it's all arranged. Pretty cool for families to have an awesome park literally in your backyard. But there are paths to and from the park via the street so everybody has access. I'm thinking he's just an "opportunity asshole" and does it while he's enroute somewhere.

After this little hoorah is over with, I'll train the camera on the park for vandalism. We've already had some little shit go down, but summer is coming and I won't tolerate MY fucking park getting trashed.

ThatGuy85 04-11-2011 10:51 AM

In for justice!

Just make sure you have enough space to store the video.

Pen2_the_penguin 04-11-2011 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 712787)
Just call it a 249 or a SAW kthx. :D

Hey, it was in my airman's manual... lol

Besides, isnt the 249 being retired soon?


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