Help me decide, some new seats vs a torsen swap and be on my way too boost?
A set of momo starts or a torsen swap for my 90 and be that much closer to boosting?
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torsen.
if you have the stock 1.6 rear in your 90, it's only a matter of time once you apply boost. not having nice seats won't leave you stranded on the side of the road, if you see what i mean. ;) |
Torsen swap. Your gonna need it. You don't 'need' the seats as much to boost.
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I would get a torsen before i would be boosting either way its just that i cant decide on my next purchase, and yes i assume i have a stock 1.6 rear end since its never been changed and its not a torsen :(
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stock seats are fine...
My torsen made the car so much more fun NA...I can only imagine being open, or with the 1.6 boosted. |
just shave the foam from your drivers seat for now, it will make a world of difference
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Originally Posted by mazda/nissan
(Post 183889)
just shave the foam from your drivers seat for now, it will make a world of difference
I did remove the back padding which led to slightly more side bolstering is this what you mean by "shave" |
The stock seats fucking blow......but I would do the Torsen first.
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torsen
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i agree torsen would be a better investment than the seats
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can i take my vote back? lol go torsen, or better yet go 1.8 open, and put in an rx7 lsd
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torsen, why do you even need seats with an open diff? exactly!!!
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Originally Posted by Flippy02
(Post 183912)
can i take my vote back? lol go torsen, or better yet go 1.8 open, and put in an rx7 lsd
actually I just got a phone call from my parts guy. I now have 2 4.30 torsen swaps for sale. lol. |
btw, I wouldn't drive my car on a track without the track seat.
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Originally Posted by thesnowboarder
(Post 183894)
I did remove the back padding which led to slightly more side bolstering is this what you mean by "shave"
As for the stock seats, you can remove the back padding as you have done to make the bolsters a little more supportive, and you can remove the bottom seat cover and remove some foam (on the part you sit on top of) to lower yourself a bit as well. Usually, people do this to try to meet the broomstick rule at the track. |
Originally Posted by brgracer
(Post 183964)
For the record, I vote torsen as well.
As for the stock seats, you can remove the back padding as you have done to make the bolsters a little more supportive, and you can remove the bottom seat cover and remove some foam (on the part you sit on top of) to lower yourself a bit as well. Usually, people do this to try to meet the broomstick rule at the track.
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 183959)
btw, I wouldn't drive my car on a track without the track seat.
I also need to get a passenger side 5 point harness for the = or better safety for instructors. |
Personally... I'd build a pool of funds til I found the appropriate item on craigslist or some local board. If a pair of seats pops up for like 200 bucks.. I'd get them.. if the Torsen pops up for like 500.. I'd get that. My opinion is biased though because I'm a craigslist prostitute who paid 500 total for seats and torsen :)
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Originally Posted by thesnowboarder
(Post 183993)
Ill look into that today thanks for the info!
I have my second track day jan 2nd and third track day jan 11th, This is why i cant make a decision. I also need to get a passenger side 5 point harness for the = or better safety for instructors. If still at stock power and can shift softly, then do the seat...but even with stock power the 6" ring is living on borrowed time and borrowed money Sleepin' on the street there ain't a damn thing funny Hand me down food and hand me down clothes A rockabilly past of which nobody knows Makes his home all over the place He goes to sleep by falling down on his face Sometimes known as the leader of the homeless Sometimes drunk and he's always phoneless Sleepin' on the street in a cardboard box He's better off drinkin' than smokin' the rocks Johnny Ryall |
the stock seats suck (i have taken the foam out of both parts) i was sliding all over the car while at NHIS. After that 2 day event my back/legs/arms were sore granted I’m 6'3 and i cant have my arms in the correct position and have my feet on the pedals so i had to compromise. I have never been sore like that after driving my dads car with cobra imola 2 gt seats and 6 points.
that being said you can drive away in pain you cant drive away with a blown dif. |
Stock seat is "fine" if you are using a 5/6pt harness. As long as you have it tight I can't see how you would be slinding around.
Buy the diff, a one tire fire is no fun when turbo or NA. |
Cheap torsens are rare. I've seen 3 this past year. Cheap 7" opens are common. Get one and an rx7 clutch pack and be happy.
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i would NOT use a 5-6 point on a stock seat for track events!
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do you think a standard belt would be better? explain.
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the stock seat is not set up for harnesses. the shoulder belts can slide off and the 5th-6th point (crotch straps) would need to be run over the top of the bottom seat cushion allowing you to submarine.
if the shoulder belts slip you can/will break your sternum and if you submarine in the seat you can/will compress your spine when you crash. While the 3 points suck they have been designed for the stock seat. sorry for the quick post i'm at my co-op job and lunch break is ending |
If you cross the shoulder belts behind the seat there is little chance of slippage. I sit on the anti-sub belts and run them behind the seat. I'd have to literally split in two for this to be an issue. Even with out the anti-sub belt I don't think submarining in a miata is that much of an issue, the driving position is too upright.
If you really thing it is that much of an issue, use both. The racing harness to hold you in place the the 3pt to "save" you in the event of a crash. |
Since cost seems like an issue, you could always run a CG-lock with the stock belt for better support/holding with the stock seats while you get the funds together for seats/harnesses.
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Originally Posted by ldp82
(Post 184043)
the stock seat is not set up for harnesses. the shoulder belts can slide off and the 5th-6th point (crotch straps) would need to be run over the top of the bottom seat cushion allowing you to submarine.
if the shoulder belts slip you can/will break your sternum and if you submarine in the seat you can/will compress your spine when you crash. While the 3 points suck they have been designed for the stock seat. sorry for the quick post i'm at my co-op job and lunch break is ending |
Id go with whatever you can find for a better deal. I found both of my seats local for dirt cheap. Just get whatever you can find for a steal. If both are equal deals Id go torsen tho
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While I assume we both agree that wearing the 3 point with a properly set up 5-6 point is a bad idea, I would like to agree to disagree about running harnesses on a stock seat for anything but auto-x.
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i did neither... i got the frankendiff instead with a 3.90 final drive and clutch lsd in the 94 housing.
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I dont really want a clutch type lsd thoe, i found a deal on a torsen that i will be picking up this thursday with 3.9 gearing so hopefully some seats will be in the budget by jan, which i dought since x-mass presents need to be purchases
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