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Efini~FC3S 02-05-2014 12:27 PM

As long as we're whoring pictures of FXTs then I'll have a go.

Some days I miss mine, some days not really. All days I don't miss a car payment though.



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If that car doesn't make you want to own an FXT then you have no Subaru love in your soul.

Also, I looked for like 4 months to find the car I wanted, and then I flew from Ohio to Virginia to get it. If you want a nice MT FXT, you're going to have to be willing to look for a while and likely be willing to travel for it (or pay to get shipped).

Cheers!

Braineack 02-05-2014 12:35 PM

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this thread makes me want an FXT now..

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TurboTim 02-05-2014 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1099147)

If that car doesn't make you want to own an FXT then you have no Subaru love in your soul.

Also, I looked for like 4 months to find the car I wanted, and then I flew from Ohio to Virginia to get it. If you want a nice MT FXT, you're going to have to be willing to look for a while and likely be willing to travel for it (or pay to get shipped).

Cheers!

This is true for any manual trans subaru that's not a WRX. I had to drive next day to Richmond VA to look at/buy my OBXT, as the seller already had a few coming that weekend to take a look at it.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1099156)
this thread makes me want an FXT now..

Same here.

Efini~FC3S 02-05-2014 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1099192)
I had to drive next day to Richmond VA to look at/buy my OBXT, as the seller already had a few coming that weekend to take a look at it.

HA, I bought my car in Richmond too.


Originally Posted by Braineack
This thread makes me want an FXT

Your WRX is way nicer than an '04-05 FXT. The frameless door'd FXTs are pretty awful from an NVH stand point (at least as OEM), and considering how you are getting more picky in your old age, I don't know if would actually enjoy an FXT.

I've never driven an '06+ FXT, maybe they have better NVH performance.

18psi 02-05-2014 02:45 PM

Nope. Same thing

Braineack 02-05-2014 02:59 PM

okay, yeah, Vlad knows how much I complain about the NVH in the WRX already.

and mine has some poly dif/rear bushings/mounts that don't help the cause.

I would also like a suspension that doesn't launch the rear of the car on speed bumps.


I drove a 06 STi once, it was worse than a miata on Konis.

Efini~FC3S 02-05-2014 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1099275)
okay, yeah, Vlad knows how much I complain about the NVH in the WRX already.

The horrid NVH of my FXT was one of the reasons I sold it. Part of the problem was the cursid window seal leak problem that I could never fix.

Part of the problem was the Whiteline Com-C front strut mounts and STI Group-N rear mounts... (I had "plans" to track it)

And part of the problem was that I was too lazy to do much about it. I think if a person made a concerted effort at improving the NVH, adding some sound proofing, etc. it could have been much, much, much improved.

I drove my buddies 2012 WRX hatch once and it felt soooooo much better all around then my FXT. Just a much more refined car.




BUT rigidbigelsowrth should totally still buy one

jt@namiata.com 02-05-2014 05:53 PM

Late to this thread, but I abhor the NVH in my '13 WRX.

The dealer support is also abysmal here.

Thinking about a tow rig, but that's another thread to troll ;)

Meeners 02-05-2014 06:37 PM

Whoring up mah daily bitch... Alas, she makes me no money or sandwiches... Forester S turbo

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18psi 02-05-2014 06:38 PM

forester circle jerk

ILU guyths :giggle:

Braineack 02-05-2014 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by jt@namiata.com (Post 1099369)
Late to this thread, but I abhor the NVH in my '13 WRX.

The dealer support is also abysmal here.

Thinking about a tow rig, but that's another thread to troll ;)

I have a t-shirt stuffed up my dash to prevent the fuse block from rattling.

I'm about to open my door cards one of these days to fix rattles there.

I noticed I've started driving in higher gears than normal to keep RPMs higher so i stop virbrating from trying to drive around below 2K.

It's not that bad though, I've been in worse, like a miata on Konis.

jt@namiata.com 02-05-2014 08:41 PM

I liked my Koni's! And my Goodwin solid motor mounts... but racecar.

The WRX is love/hate. It's fun to drive fast. It's horrendous at being a highway car. Every new mechanical noise I hear, I fear the car is suicidal. It has 10k miles and KBBs at 24k trade. Might go that route, though the WRX is my second new off the lot DD in 18 months (first was FR-S). Feels bad, man.

The rattles I can forgive, but the gear noise at highway speed makes my ears bleed. Dealer "fixed" it, I say it's worse now. Even "turning the radio up" is difficult, the door cards make more noise than the speakers at moderate volume.

18psi 02-05-2014 08:43 PM

Drama queen much?

Buy 100sq/ft of dynamat
Buy 100sq/ft of raamat high density sound eliminating foam

spend 1 day with those two and your car

profit





orr.............

Just go buy a lexus already. These are econoboxes we're dealing with here. I actually really admire the fact that this awd turbo 4 seater with plenty of room weighs 3200lb which is the same as the FailWD focus and ms3

jt@namiata.com 02-05-2014 08:50 PM

Yep, debits and credits.

Thought about the dynamat. Hate working with interior pieces.

18psi 02-05-2014 09:25 PM

I've seen a lot of clean foresters.
But this is one that makes me all warm and fuzzy:drool:
Manitou's 2006 XTI/ Horse Power Techs built, Junior Tuned results - NASIOC
read the whole thread. its worth it

Fireindc 02-05-2014 10:26 PM

Just got back from a pow day in my fozzie. It kicks ass, torquey enough to slide around like a madman in the snow too. Good 20's MPG, roof racks, TONS of space, heated seats/mirrors/windows, smooth shifting and fun with the 5 speed, cheap insurance, n/a reliability. Did some donuts in the parking lot before going home and i'm SO glad i found a S package with the rear LSD :giggle:

Braineack 02-06-2014 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by jt@namiata.com (Post 1099429)
I liked my Koni's! And my Goodwin solid motor mounts... but racecar.

Drive a miata with real shocks and say that again with a straight face.

rigidbigelsworth 02-06-2014 09:46 AM

well I'm not saying I'm giving in to the Forester peer pressure, buuuut I'm not going with the WRX for now at least. The only ones in my area are the 06 I test drove yesterday and a few 02-05 sedans and wagons with more miles than I could justify trading down to.

The 06 was a disappointment. Fun as hell to drive, but too many issues that the dealer claimed he didnt know about. They bought it at auction and I think I was the first person to test drive it..including employees at the dealership...

These were things I noticed, feel free to comment on any of them:
smelled burning oil smell when I was giving the turbo a workout(smell went away when cruising, but under hard boost it was not happy) I am assuming seals?

maybe I'm just ignorant, but im prettttty damn sure there was a water line coming from some funky little RAD reservoir near the turbo, into one side then......open exposed water port on the other side of the turbo. WTF? it almost looked like someone had plugged the water outlet? not with a bolt but like a recessed threaded cup or a recessed press in something? basically water inlet banjo fitting, water outlet...exposed hole in turbo. I couldnt really see a plug but there wasnt water spewing everywhere so its plugged on one side or another. Not a HUGE deal since you can run oil cooled only I'm sure but it makes me question the previous owners knowledge and what other weird shit he might have done to it.

It had an aftermarket exhaust which was nice, not too noisy or drone-y but I imagine a little more sound than stock, and an aftermarket cold air intake with cone filter. But the dealer couldnt confirm they had run any diagnostics on it or checked if it was ever tuned and I know just slapping on a new intake and exhaust I read could lean out the car a bit if the ecu couldnt compensate, and it is recommended to have it tuned after new intake (how true is this? )

PS reservoir seemed to be leaking, which may just require a new hose or reservoir, not a big deal,

one of the rims was curbed pretty bad (deep, not long shallow scrapes) so Im wondering if it was more than just a scrape parallel parking, and was more like a dumb kid sliding sideways into a curb, so i was worried about damage to the suspension?

trans felt notchier than I expected. I know its a shorter throw than a standard manual car, but it didnt want to smoothly shift quickly through gears. so doing a pull from first-second-third I had to very deliberately pull into each gear slowly or it wouldnt go. Kinda took the fun out of it. the dealers excuse was "oh well you know every car is different, if you put a new clutch, or different fluid it can feel different and takes some time to get used to. You probably just arent used to the sportiness of this car." I almost laughed when he said that. like, yeah, ok, but no clutch when it is fully disengaged should effect how smoothly the gears slide into place..a disengaged clutch is a disengaged clutch whether it is old and worn out or brand new and super sporty. the shifter should move smoothly.
(Am I wrong here? are these trans just known to be more notchy?)


trans whined a little when easing from clutch in to clutch out and revving a little. then the turbo starting spooling so i couldnt tell if the trans stopped whining or just got covered up by the turbo noise.

then just little stuff like the rear hatch switch was broken so the "trunk" light wouldnt turn off, you had to manually turn it off.
they didnt have a key fob so the alarm went off when I manually unlocked it with the key(they were surprised this happened, which is why I feel like I was the first one to drive it)
missing a few trim pieces inside the car


Overall none of it would be a big deal if I was getting it cheap as a project car. I know I COULD fix it all, but if I am going to trade a like new Lexus with 53000 miles for an 06 WRX with 98k, there is no way Im going to take a $1000 return with all those issues needing to be addressed, and think that is a fair trade.. I know trade in value is significantly lower than private party value but he wasn't willing to budge from 12k for the WRX and offer me 13k for my car. (am I out of line for thinking this is an insulting offer? KBB shows good condition to be about 15k trade in)

I think mostly I just didnt like how they either honestly knew nothing about the history of the car, or chose to act like that was the case. It just seemed like if there were that many things that were that quickly noticeable and not addressed, how many other issues are hiding that I didn't notice.

It does give me something to compare a forester to when I test drive one though. The car accelerated, braked, handled great. I can definitely see why people love these things.

Braineack 02-06-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by rigidbigelsworth (Post 1099578)
It does give me something to compare a forester to when I test drive one though. The car accelerated, braked, handled great. I can definitely see why people love these things.


seriously, I lost all interest in the miata after getting mine.

18psi 02-06-2014 01:26 PM

sounds like you drove a beat to oblivion/abused/trashed one.

TurboTim 02-06-2014 01:51 PM

Summin' like this might be in my future:
http://www.precisionchassisworks.com...6_orig.jpg?336
We should all have some H6 love.

18psi 02-06-2014 01:57 PM

oh man don't even get me started.
H6
so much want

Braineack 02-06-2014 02:00 PM

I want a H8.

18psi 02-06-2014 02:03 PM

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EZ30R Update... - NASIOC

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TurboTim 02-06-2014 02:03 PM

Not bad. :dunno:
Why do I feel like an STI 6MT swap would be a pain in the ass, but an H6 swap would be worthwhile? I'd do EG33 to keep it simple, run it with a series 1 AEM EMS because that's what I know. Copy all the settings over from the other even fire 6 cylinder I know of.

Braineack 02-06-2014 02:04 PM

so it looks like i have a spider on my motor...

18psi 02-06-2014 02:07 PM

We do STi 6mt swaps in 1 day, its really not hard as long as you got all the parts.

Tim,
With your awesome skills you could make something ridonculous and we'd all be jealous lol

TurboTim 02-06-2014 02:11 PM

I had an '04 STi. I hated shifting all the time. I much more enjoy the wider ratios of the 5MT. Is there a strong 6speed/STi trans with wider ratios?

Don't you also have to swap the rear end..and the axles...and the hubs...and rotors, wheels...seems like too much a pain in the ass. Unless you can continue to use the car's original axles.

18psi 02-06-2014 02:15 PM

the 07+ sti has much better gearing.

I still prefer the 5mt though.

EO2K 02-06-2014 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by rigidbigelsworth (Post 1099578)
well I'm not saying I'm giving in to the Forester peer pressure, buuuut I'm not going with the WRX for now at least. The only ones in my area are the 06 I test drove yesterday and a few 02-05 sedans and wagons with more miles than I could justify trading down to.

The 06 was a disappointment. Fun as hell to drive, but too many issues that the dealer claimed he didnt know about. They bought it at auction and I think I was the first person to test drive it..including employees at the dealership...

<snip>

I think mostly I just didnt like how they either honestly knew nothing about the history of the car, or chose to act like that was the case. It just seemed like if there were that many things that were that quickly noticeable and not addressed, how many other issues are hiding that I didn't notice.

They honestly probably know nothing about the car. Its a numbers game for them, buy low, sell high, make $$$. I had pretty much the same experience with an 04 WRX wagon I drove from a quick-turnover lot. They knew nothing about the car other than what was on the carfax, but they claimed to have done the timing belt "because it probably needed it" at that point in its life and cleaned it out, that was about it. I pulled up the rear cover/deck to check to see if it actually had a spare and a jack and there was a bunch of paper and trash and shit under there because "We honestly hadn't looked under there before." lol The heatshield was missing off the turbo (rusted off by the looks of it) and they had recently pressure washed everything under the hood to make it look pretty. All this did was make it throw misfire codes when I went for a test drive and blow white aluminum oxidation all over the place when it dried. Plus rust up under the bumpers and all up in the exhaust. This was obviously someone's east coast winter car.

I really REALLY enjoyed the car, but I didn't leave with a WRX that day.

Fireindc 02-06-2014 02:39 PM

I think if i ever did a swap on my forester (or an impreza/forester in general) it would be a h6 over any of the turbo swaps. I know the power isn't huge, but the torque wave is phenomenal for a street car and it would make a pretty quick daily. Plus.. that sound :drool:

MicaCeli 02-06-2014 04:01 PM

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Basicaly a wrx that looks better and doesn't steer like a bus nor does it rattle itself to death. Cobb rear bar, STI guage cluster, TSX DP/Midpipe, some totaly awesome muffler that Nasioc people drool over and a TXS tune.

It goes good in the snow and I can fit stuff in it.

rigidbigelsworth 02-06-2014 04:20 PM

I saw a saabaru at another lot a while ago but didn't drive it cuz it was automatic, and I had just driven an 02 auto wrx wagon and was...underwhelmed..so figured no point in driving basically the same car again. I might browse my area for a 9-2x now that I am out of wrx options at the moment

Meeners 02-07-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rigidbigelsworth (Post 1099578)
well I'm not saying I'm giving in to the Forester peer pressure, buuuut.... (Blah blah)

Haha, your going to drive a lesbo wagon :) Join the club.
My tip is moist...

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1099710)
so it looks like i have a spider on my motor...

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Originally Posted by rigidbigelsworth (Post 1099764)
I saw a saabaru at another lot a while ago but didn't drive it cuz it was automatic, and I had just driven an 02 auto wrx wagon and was...underwhelmed..so figured no point in driving basically the same car again. I might browse my area for a 9-2x now that I am out of wrx options at the moment

I cannot stress enough how many times I told myself i would get an auto because it was more grown up, better on the highway, i'm lazy, etc... I ended up buying a broken 9-2x and swapping it. Two days after it was fixed I put it up for sale. It's too boring IMO. Don't settle. This is something you will be driving every day for a great time. You deserve to get exactly what you want... take your time finding it, spend the right amount to get the best... otherwise you will be wasting your time.

Braineack 02-07-2014 08:11 AM

I've driven a few auto WRXs--they are completely gutless. You need something with gobs of torque before going to slush.

Braineack 02-07-2014 03:04 PM


Fireindc 02-07-2014 04:46 PM

WRX driver does not know how to drive in the snow. You don't get anywhere over-throttling it like that in the snow.

Braineack 02-07-2014 05:33 PM

gets you further than the cop...


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