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Savington 10-23-2007 05:44 PM

How the fuck does Tom@FFS sell anything? (or "M.net retard of the day")
 
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...7&postcount=20


Originally Posted by Tom@FFS
It is easy to make 200WHP on CA91. In fact, it isn't too hard to make 220WHP on CA91 on a stock Miata engine. However, it is still my humble opinion that to take a stock Miata engine to 250WHP on CA91 pump gas is an accident waiting for a place to happen regardless of turbo/SC, Full ECU or otherwise. MP asked me if I thought he could safely make 220-250 with a MP62 hotside on CA91 pump gas. I still don't think so. The possibility of failure is exponentionally related to the WHP.

Bill, (formerdatson510man) has done a load of things to his car to get there. Her runs 93 octane on 9:1 pistons. I believe he is barely at 220WHP. It is quite a leap to go from 220 to 250. Even more of a leap to do it on CA91. Even with the base M45 kit Moss recommends 92 octane minimum. And Bill has the best engine management that money can buy. ;)

Of course this is just my humble opinion.

The sheer stupidity baffles me on a regular basis. Keep the IATs under control, make sure it's not running lean, and you can do whatever you want on 91 octane.

magnamx-5 10-23-2007 05:48 PM

Yep, i gues my setup is just an acident waiting to happen :rofl:

Philip 10-23-2007 05:50 PM

:dunno:

see if he wants to buy a banner here :rofl:

Ben 10-23-2007 05:51 PM

I believe his level of expertise is related to non intercooled, high compression 99-00 and 01-05 motors. Taken in that context, IE "low" octane, high intake temp, and high compression, coupled with no timing management... I entirely agree with what he said.

Also his customers seem to follow his lead like lemmings. So if he posts that >220 whp is a bad idea, they will take it to heart... and hopefully stop blowing their shit up. Because for a while, it seemed that there was an FFS equipped engine failure every week.

Ben 10-23-2007 05:55 PM

BTW, I had an interesting PM dialoge with Tom. He seems like an allright guy, when he's not out there whoring his product.

magnamx-5 10-23-2007 06:05 PM

I like Tom to but sometimes i find myself doing a double take on his posts. Either he panders to the Newbs or he realy hasn't researched thingsas far as we have. I dunno witch is worse.

Philip 10-23-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166338)
BTW, I had an interesting PM dialoge with Tom. He seems like an allright guy, when he's not out there whoring his product.

all the more reason he should advert here.

Savington 10-23-2007 06:17 PM

He'd certainly fit in nicely with all the FM bashers.

Stealth97 10-23-2007 06:21 PM

Install kit
turn key
melt pistons

I bought a fuel rail from him, only because he was the only one selling them at the time. they way he stole the design from BRP/SOT was just wrong. If only I had a PC-Pro or two instead of a MS I'd be making so much power.

Philip 10-23-2007 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 166347)
He'd certainly fit in nicely with all the FM bashers.

wah wah wah

Savington 10-23-2007 06:31 PM

Honestly I'm amazed Gary didn't ban him after accusing the forum and FM of playing favorites.

Ben 10-23-2007 06:33 PM

why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

patsmx5 10-23-2007 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166355)
why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

Ding Ding Ding! We have a Winner!!! I would suspect they both got PM's saying play nice and we still want your money.

hustler 10-23-2007 09:00 PM

sig check.

Arkmage 10-23-2007 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166355)
why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

Hey Philip,

what is your rate for a banner ad around here?

chuckerants 10-24-2007 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 166352)
Install kit
turn key
melt pistons

I bought a fuel rail from him, only because he was the only one selling them at the time. they way he stole the design from BRP/SOT was just wrong. If only I had a PC-Pro or two instead of a MS I'd be making so much power.

If you're referring to the Coldside, you should get your story straight. Tom designed the Coldside kit, BRP was supposed to (sell the kits) accept payment and send Tom his cut.

The last part never happened and he's still out a shitload of money.

After all the bullshit about BRP fucking people, there are still morons that believe BRP is the shit.

samnavy 10-24-2007 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by chuckerants (Post 166489)
If you're referring to the Coldside, you should get your story straight. Tom designed the Coldside kit, BRP was supposed to (sell the kits) accept payment and send Tom his cut.

The last part never happened and he's still out a shitload of money.

After all the bullshit about BRP fucking people, there are still morons that believe BRP is the shit.

This is the exact story I've heard several times.

Stealth97 10-24-2007 08:47 AM

All I know is what I read when the BS went down. Never cared to dig any deeper.

chuckerants 10-24-2007 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 166543)
All I know is what I read when the BS went down. Never cared to dig any deeper.

Yeah, it shows.

Mymiataflys 10-24-2007 09:55 AM

I bought one of his fuel rails and it's a nice piece at a fair price with good service and friendly emails. Couldn't find it listed on his sight and had to email him about it's availability. I did paint over the white lettering with black paint.

soflarick 10-24-2007 10:20 AM

Tom's been good to me with tech help, and the accessories I've bought from him are high quality. I run his fuel rail, very nice piece at a good price.

Braineack 10-24-2007 10:23 AM

I'm thinking about removing my intercooler for a pc-pro. I wish I could run two like the NBs

Stealth97 10-24-2007 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by chuckerants (Post 166573)
Yeah, it shows.

and...


Originally Posted by soflarick (Post 166581)
Tom's been good to me with tech help, and the accessories I've bought from him are high quality. I run his fuel rail, very nice piece at a good price.

the fuel rail is a nice piece, indeed.

Splitime 10-24-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 166582)
I'm thinking about removing my intercooler for a pc-pro. I wish I could run two like the NBs

You know... you are supposed to insert some goofy smiley faces to show your sarcasm :p

socal pat 10-24-2007 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 166543)
All I know is what I read when the BS went down. Never cared to dig any deeper.

... but you have no problem spreading false or misleading information based on your admitted lack of information. This forum is a "heated" place at times, but it should be a place we can get reliable info no?

Stealth97 10-24-2007 10:51 AM

I posted something I had been told when the deal happened. Obviously I had only heard one side of the story. When I was corrected I admitted that I did not know it all. If I continued to call you all wrong, or deny that I was wrong, then I would see a problem.

I was wrong, I was corrected, then acknowledged that. I guess it's cool to continue dragging me through crap about it.

magnamx-5 10-24-2007 11:03 AM

damn pat why not scalp him :vash: :crx:

socal pat 10-24-2007 11:05 AM

GEEEEEZ I've only been a member here a short time and I'm becomming rabid. It must be catching.

hustler 10-24-2007 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 166582)
I'm thinking about removing my intercooler for a pc-pro. I wish I could run two like the NBs

Al Gore actually lobbied for an amendment to the Kyoto Protocol to install PC Pro's on all vehicles to cool the Earth, and stop global warming. However the evil conservative neo-cons got involved and lobbied for exemptions for the big 3, and Al Gore didn't want to overburden foreign car companies, and cast them into financial ruin, which would empower the GOP to kill the earth. This will be the deciding factor in the 2008 presidential race which elects Hillary Clinton, subsequently saving the world from global warming...all thanks to the PC-Pro. What can FM say about that? No air to air intercooler ever did anything for the earth other than pollute. Looks like we know who FM is voting for this election season.

Ben 10-24-2007 11:38 AM

Ah yes, Al Gore, savior of the earth

[T]he Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
....
The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005.
But he's looking to install some solar panels, so it's all good.

hustler 10-24-2007 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166608)
Ah yes, Al Gore, savior of the earth


But he's looking to install some solar panels, so it's all good.

al gore is going to save the world.

TonyC 10-24-2007 12:08 PM

htf do you rack up a "$1,359" electricity bill a month??????

Splitime 10-24-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 166627)
htf do you rack up a "$1,359" electricity bill a month??????

Own a mansion and "pool" house.

Ben 10-24-2007 12:10 PM

don't forget about the other $1080/mo for natural gas.

PS, my power bill for my house last month was $150. Electric only; no gas bill.

jayc72 10-24-2007 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 166627)
htf do you rack up a "$1,359" electricity bill a month??????

Grow op.

hustler 10-24-2007 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 166627)
htf do you rack up a "$1,359" electricity bill a month??????

powerpoint presentation on a super computer.

y8s 10-24-2007 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166608)
Ah yes, Al Gore, savior of the earth


But he's looking to install some solar panels, so it's all good.

what's the bush family home (non whitehouse) power bill look like?

Ben 10-24-2007 12:44 PM

nothing, compared to the energy used to shuttle the president from the white house in dc to his ranch in texas.

as i understand it, marine1 shuttles him from the white house to dulles, where he boards airforce1, which is accompanied by a second 747 (which contains his armored convoy) and at least 1 fighter escort. when he lands in texas, the armored convoy takes him to the ranch. he has satellite and helicopter survilence while in route. this assuredly costs much more, each way, than whatever rediculous amount of energy his home uses per year.

fmowry 10-24-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 166627)
htf do you rack up a "$1,359" electricity bill a month??????

He's running the internet he built from his house.

Frank

TurboTim 10-24-2007 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 166639)
powerpoint presentation on a super computer.

hahaha

Markp 10-24-2007 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166653)
nothing, compared to the energy used to shuttle the president from the white house in dc to his ranch in texas.

as i understand it, marine1 shuttles him from the white house to dulles, where he boards airforce1, which is accompanied by a second 747 (which contains his armored convoy) and at least 1 fighter escort. when he lands in texas, the armored convoy takes him to the ranch. he has satellite and helicopter survilence while in route. this assuredly costs much more, each way, than whatever rediculous amount of energy his home uses per year.

What if Algore was president... do you think he'd be rocking an Armored Prius?

Bitch Please... LOL, He's just as bad as any of them... you think he's flying commercial to go get his Nobel peace prize? NOT.

hustler 10-24-2007 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by fmowry (Post 166659)
He's running the internet he built from his house.

Frank

hahahha


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