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Markp 07-14-2008 10:13 PM

I F*#&ing hate carbs... Can I get that with the weak sauce?
 
So here is the story....

I find 3 EX-5oo Ninja's for sale... total investment $1000. 2 sets of carbs, only one of which is even remotely worth a shit. I ordered a set of carbs off ebay and it's just as broke as the ones I have... I hate carbs, they suck and never work right... So the question is...

Should I megasquirt an EX-500, and if I do, do you think it needs a Turbo? (I'm thinking it does...)

Freaking Ninja 500's are weak sauce. No balls what so ever... I am thinking that some boost might fix that issue.

https://www.miataturbo.net/gallery/f...4/dscn0088.jpg

Is it worth boosting?

Mark

Doppelgänger 07-14-2008 10:20 PM

sell it and get a REAL bike...duh.

Mach929 07-14-2008 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 282990)
sell it and get a REAL bike...duh.

he has a real bike, these are toys.

i hate carbs too, so i say megasquirt, i bet there's a whole bunch of power in there even without a turbo, but then a turbo would be cool as hell too.

The_Pipefather 07-14-2008 10:53 PM

i think you should microsquirt it and then think about turbo. you don't want to deal with a carbed turbo engine. Ever.

Fireindc 07-14-2008 10:53 PM

Lol they are balls slow. My miata at 5psi will put car lengths on my ninja 500.


It would be hilarious to turbo it, i think its a great idea. Id love to see one keep up with an r6.

18psi 07-14-2008 10:59 PM

that would be one sweet 500

Toddcod 07-14-2008 11:05 PM

Not to rain on a parade. Carbs are so super easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #1 RULE. DO NOT TOUCH THE ADJUSTMENTS!
just take the bottom of the bowls off and clean the jets. You should be fine. Put a filter inline. After it the carbs are clean then you can adjust alittle. But usually you don't have to adjust them at all.
Get what you can running and sell them and take the extra microsquirt & turbo money and buy an 01 GSXR 1000, or some other liter bike.
The effort and money is not worth it. And for what the 500 is, it will run. But there is no replacement for displacement. Get a gsxr 1000 and it doesn't need turbo. It will pull 9's all day. That is if you can ride.

If you turbo the 1000, it is insane.
I just don't want the hasle of a turbo bike. I like to just turn the key on 900+ cc's. I wouldn't want a hic-up in a curve.

If you had TURBO and Nitrous the 1000 would spank the 500. ZX9's and all 900's are cheap now. Or even get a 600. I'll sell you my Custom ZX9R for $4500.

18psi 07-14-2008 11:17 PM

lol, are you sharing an opinion or advertising your bike? lol jp :D

Saml01 07-14-2008 11:42 PM

Def turbo and microsquirt the bike, the bragging rights alone are worth the effort.

Doppelgänger 07-14-2008 11:42 PM

you guys know im kidding.

MS + t-88?

Markp 07-14-2008 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 283007)
Lol they are balls slow. My miata at 5psi will put car lengths on my ninja 500.


It would be hilarious to turbo it, i think its a great idea. Id love to see one keep up with an r6.

ToddCodd missed the humor, which is what you picked up on....

I know that the 500 is super slow, which is what would make a turbo one with micro/megasquirt absolutely wrong. A Turbo 500 might put down 70-90 HP, which is actually a pretty stout amount of power.

It's not about building a "fast" bike, it's about building a sleeper of sorts. Something that is just wrong on many levels... No one wants to get spanked by a ninja 500, that's for sure.

I have no money in it, and would never spend much on this project... but it could be too much fun.

Mark

PS - I already have a liter bike...

patsmx5 07-15-2008 12:01 AM

Do it mark and drop some spray on it too.

Markp 07-15-2008 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 283054)
Do it mark and drop some spray on it too.

I have no interest in spending money on spray for the bike.

Mark

TurboTim 07-15-2008 08:22 AM

You know you should do it, why even bother asking here that's silly.

And you also know I am selling a turbo you could try on it. The biggest issue is oiling the turbo. Also where would you place the turbo, right under the radiator?

Zabac 07-15-2008 10:47 AM

I am getting some pretty sweet ideas in my head, that thing could be sick.

Toddcod 07-15-2008 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Markp (Post 283043)
ToddCodd missed the humor, which is what you picked up on....

I know that the 500 is super slow, which is what would make a turbo one with micro/megasquirt absolutely wrong. A Turbo 500 might put down 70-90 HP, which is actually a pretty stout amount of power.

It's not about building a "fast" bike, it's about building a sleeper of sorts. Something that is just wrong on many levels... No one wants to get spanked by a ninja 500, that's for sure.

I have no money in it, and would never spend much on this project... but it could be too much fun.

Mark

PS - I already have a liter bike...

I worked a 16hr last night. My BS O-meter was Broke. LOL!

Joe Perez 07-15-2008 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 283125)
And you also know I am selling a turbo you could try on it. The biggest issue is oiling the turbo. Also where would you place the turbo, right under the radiator?

Placement is generally under the radiator, yes. You can see some example here:
http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/cate...?idCategory=66

Oil supply is generally taken at the filter or pressure sender. Return is a bit more difficult, with a lot of them requiring a scavenge pump.

Markp 07-15-2008 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 283125)
You know you should do it, why even bother asking here that's silly.

And you also know I am selling a turbo you could try on it. The biggest issue is oiling the turbo. Also where would you place the turbo, right under the radiator?

It would require a small scavenge pump, but that's no big deal and with a small turbo and only 2 runners, this is an easy one to do... almost too easy.

Mark

elesjuan 07-15-2008 08:05 PM

Mark:

DO IT. Seriously, turbo it.

I helped a friend turbo a 2000 ninja 250 and it ended up being damn near quicker than my modded ZX6. We planned on using a 500R for the base bike but couldn't find one for under 1000 like the 250.

:D

SamS 07-15-2008 09:54 PM

Just remember it has 10.8:1 compression, other than that sleeper ftw.


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