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miatamania 01-19-2007 09:35 AM

I learnt me something...thanks fellas!
 
Well...I spent the better portion of 5 hours last night on megasquirts website reading about tuning and the VE theories etc and also ordered Corky's Maximum Boost since you tend to hear it worth reading...and I need all the learning I can get.

Just figured I'd post up and say thanks for all the help you guys give with my stupid ass questions as I found a lot of answers to them last night (and got a lot more :vash: )

Any other need to read stuff out there though?

miataturbo.net FTMFW

^ (for the mother f*ckin win)

Markp 01-19-2007 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 72981)
Well...I spent the better portion of 5 hours last night on megasquirts website reading about tuning and the VE theories etc and also ordered Corky's Maximum Boost since you tend to hear it worth reading...and I need all the learning I can get.

Just figured I'd post up and say thanks for all the help you guys give with my stupid ass questions as I found a lot of answers to them last night (and got a lot more :vash: )

Any other need to read stuff out there though?

miataturbo.net FTMFW

^ (for the mother f*ckin win)

There is a lot more to read, but get through MB first. You'll find it worthwhile and it will give you a good base to work from.

Mark

Al Hounos 01-19-2007 10:38 AM

You're on the right track definitely, familiarize yourself with MS-Extra.

Arkmage 01-19-2007 11:01 AM

Carol Smith's books are also worth a read, but more related to racing. Engineering to Win, Driving to Win, Tuning to Win (suspension not engines), Nuts, Bolts, and Fasteners (includes performance plumbing), and there is one more in the series but I can't remember it off hand... I own all of them except the one I can't remember.

Those books will come in handy if you every DIY car parts instead of buying them all.

miatamania 01-19-2007 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 73002)
You're on the right track definitely, familiarize yourself with MS-Extra.

I posted it in the MS post I made, but is this right: theres MS-1 and MS-2, then the different board version for MS-2...v2...v3? and MS-extra is just firmware/software that will work with MS-2, any board? or did I screw that up somewhere? Its just a lot of boards...and versions...and new updates...its confusing to one who hasn't done it.

zoom2zoom 01-19-2007 12:35 PM

is the new book out yet from Corky?

miatamania 01-19-2007 12:47 PM

no, I don't think so...I just ordered an older copy

Arkmage 01-19-2007 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 73025)
I posted it in the MS post I made, but is this right: theres MS-1 and MS-2, then the different board version for MS-2...v2...v3? and MS-extra is just firmware/software that will work with MS-2, any board? or did I screw that up somewhere? Its just a lot of boards...and versions...and new updates...its confusing to one who hasn't done it.

MS2 is MS2.

MS1 has two board V2 and V3. MSnS-E is for MS1.

miatamania 01-19-2007 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 73052)
MS2 is MS2.

MS1 has two board V2 and V3. MSnS-E is for MS1.

ah, so I got it backwards...

so most of you guys are running MS1? If I were to buy/build which one would be preferred?

jay dub 01-19-2007 02:08 PM

Another vote for Corky Bell's book Maximum Boost. Last chapter is installing a turbo kit in a Miata. I'm still reading and learning. He posts quite a bit on the Miata.net forum

VRTSid 01-19-2007 02:27 PM

thats an awesome book, Ive re-re-re-read parts and still interesting.

Arkmage 01-19-2007 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 73058)
ah, so I got it backwards...

so most of you guys are running MS1? If I were to buy/build which one would be preferred?

MS1 V3 was my choice... the V2 can't run low impedance injectors without an added flyback board. The MS2 has less documentation on how to make it work on miatas.

Al Hounos 01-19-2007 05:37 PM

I believe everyone on here is running MSNSE on a V3 board. Except for the guy that got it working on MSII. arga?

I couldn't run my low impedance injectors without tach signal spikes, not sure what the problem was with that.

miatamania 01-19-2007 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by jay dub (Post 73066)
Another vote for Corky Bell's book Maximum Boost. Last chapter is installing a turbo kit in a Miata. I'm still reading and learning. He posts quite a bit on the Miata.net forum

So thats why everyone suggests it lol :)

miatamania 01-19-2007 06:48 PM

Anybody know which one kingofl337 builds? MS1 V3 also?

As I said, building it scares me, b/c I don't know how to solder...or anything...but you guys keep saying its easy.

Arkmage 01-19-2007 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Al Hounos (Post 73126)
I believe everyone on here is running MSNSE on a V3 board. Except for the guy that got it working on MSII. arga?

I couldn't run my low impedance injectors without tach signal spikes, not sure what the problem was with that.

My guess would be that the flyback circuit needed for the low impedance injectors was interfering with the tach circuit... moving the ground for one or the other to an external source (rather than board common ground) would probably fix that.

miatamania 01-21-2007 04:42 PM

huh, went ahead and did some more research and downloaded the MS-Extra software...this stuff is sweet.

Al Hounos 01-21-2007 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Arkmage (Post 73148)
My guess would be that the flyback circuit needed for the low impedance injectors was interfering with the tach circuit... moving the ground for one or the other to an external source (rather than board common ground) would probably fix that.

Yeah, this is probably the case, but I had a DSM resistor pack on hand, and 15minutes of wiring later it was running perfectly.


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